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• ... that the first biography of the first Japanese woman to earn a college degree was written by her great-granddaughter, who also studied abroad in the U.S.? Source: "Kuno's experience as a student for a year at an American college gives the narrative an added perspective, as does her dual capacity as Sutematsu's biographer and great-granddaughter." -- Goff, Janet (1994). "History -- Unexpected Destinations: The Poignant Story of Japan's First Vassar Graduate by Akiko Kuno and translated by Kirsten McIvor". Japan Quarterly. 41 (3): 358. "Unexpected Destinations is the biography of the first Japanese woman apparently to graduate from any college anywhere." -- W., G. (1 September 1993). "She Was A First for Japan". Vassar Quarterly. LXXXIX (4): 33.
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~ L 🌸 (talk) 07:55, 27 December 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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• Adequate sourcing: - n
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• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Overall: Article was nominated for DYK within 7 days of creation. No issues with length. Good faith is assumed on print sources. Earwig picked up an unlikely copyright violation of 21.9%, mostly from the title of of the book. The summary needs more sources since it deals with real-life people and events. QPQ is done; the hook drew me in so I think it's good! Minor suggestions that doesn't affect DYK eligibility but can be made to the article: Kirkus Reviews, Publishers Weekly, and Kodansha all have articles on the English Wikipedia and can be piped in the sources; the infobox has fields for publishers, page numbers, ISBN, and release dates, so those can quickly be filled in. lullabying (talk) 19:09, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

lullabying, thanks for taking a look! I appreciate your suggestions for polishing, but I disagree that the summary needs more sources. The synopses in book articles are implicitly cited to the book itself, following the conventions at WP:NOVELPLOT; secondary sources would be a bit odd. I've basically summarized each chapter in a sentence or clause, in the order that they appear in the book, so I don’t think there’s anything that needs an additional source. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 21:26, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think WP:NOVELPLOT only applies to fiction though, and the article seems to be about a biography, with real-life people and real-life events involved. lullabying (talk) 01:01, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree, but I added the citation to the book anyway. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 07:22, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The top of the page for WP:NOVELPLOT says it's about literary fiction, and which doesn't seem to be the case for this book. The source you listed is a primary source — do you have any secondary sources for the summary? lullabying (talk) 21:43, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The instructions for non-fiction books at WP:WikiProject Books/Non-fiction article links to WP:PLOTCITE (about fiction) for guidance, which says All interpretation, synthesis or analysis of the plot must be based upon some secondary source. Citations about the plot summary itself, however, may refer to the primary source—the work of fiction itself. ... Plot summaries written purely from other summaries risk excessive loss of context and detail. The book itself is my source for what the book says. The secondary sources have much shorter and vaguer summaries, whereas my summary follows the table of contents to present the key concept of each chapter in order. (You might note that it's entirely different from Daughters of the Samurai). I have written a lot of book articles, and it's considered best practice to completely avoid secondary citations in the synopsis, because the synopsis ought to contain only non-interpretive material verified by the book itself. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 22:53, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. Good to go. I assume good faith on printed sources. I have no other concerns that need to be addressed. lullabying (talk) 01:44, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]