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Talk:Rafah Border Crossing

Questionable Date

The article says the border crossing was evacuated on 11 September 2005, but here is a BBC News report dated 26 October 2005 saying that Israel and Egypt had just reached a deal to allow people to cross between Egypt and Gaza. Does anyone have more information? Sanguinalis 19:26, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

who is in charge?

Who is now controlling this crossing? The article says

  • .. managed by the Israel Airports Authority until September 2005
  • [monitored by] the European Union Border Assistance Mission Rafah [since then]
  • was opened on 25 November 2005 (by whom?)
  • Since that time it has [often] been closed by Israel
  • EUBAM monitors could not return to man the crossing
  • On December 27 2008, Egypt opened the crossing

So it seems that Israel was in charge for some time, the EU was in but is out now, and Egypt is in charge now? When did this all happen?

194.24.158.8 (talk) 16:29, 28 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


I agree, this issue of control is what I came to this entry to find out. And I have no better understanding now than before. Is it now entirely up to Egypt to open and close the border? Or does Israel control it somehow? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.106.12.131 (talk) 08:26, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I advise to take the Hebrew Wikipedia of this page as a reference, it mentions exacly who is incharge and from when, including details that are not found in the english version. I also condemn the use of information given by a biased organization that has clear political views such as "Palestinian Human Rights Center" or some other nicely named org. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.91.85.69 (talk) 13:59, 28 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Rafah Crossing: Who holds the keys?

The report Rafah Crossing: Who holds the keys? from March 2009 by Gisha-Legal Center for Freedom of Movement and Physicians for Human Rights-Israel looks like a valuable source for this article. Sean.hoyland - talk 17:09, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Very weak, out-of-date article

There are significant points in the Talk page that have been ignored / omitted for years.

To these I would add that the map at the top is very poor with respect to what it represents. From the article text, the crossing is "between Egypt and the Gaza Strip". However, the chosen map indicates neither of these areas. Such a basic omission should have been corrected years ago.

This article would not even make it to the starting blocks in a real encyclopaedia. Although there are doubtless many well-intentioned contributors to this site, the way that it operates demonstrates how far short it falls of its aspirations. 86.172.182.205 (talk) 06:25, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawal of PA in 2019 from Rafah crossing

Reuters reported on 6 Jan. 2019 that the Palestinian Authority was withdrawing its employees from the Rafah crossing. [1] I assume at some later time in 2019, Hamas took control of the crossing on the Gaza side? This ought to be covered in the article, and currently is not. Mathew5000 (talk) 15:15, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a source that explains better why or how Gaza lost control of it? That link said PA + Egypt were there in 2017, but it just said "the dispute", and it's confusing because Egypt would have already controlled their side. It got attacked by ISIS from both sides in mid 2017, that is also missing. Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 06:15, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Where? When? Who? Basics missing.

WHERE: Has the crossing always been at the same spot?

WHEN (built, moved)

When was it first established?

If moved: when, and from where to where? By whom?

Main options: 1906. 1979. 1982. 2005. Later.

NAME & PLACE
When was it called

  • Rafah Land Port
  • Salah al Din Gate
  • Rafah Crossing
  • Al Awda?

Which names are used for the same crossing? Did the names migrate together with the main crossing? For instance, Rafah Crossing seems now to be the same as Al 'Awda, but Salah ad-Din is not on Salah ad-Din Road, so maybe this name moved around.

Who calls them how? What was/were the official name/names? See Isr-Jordan crossings: each one has an official Isr. name, an official Jord. name, plus a popular old one from the British time or older.

Apparently, the main crossing was moved once; which of these names were/are used for which location?

Was the "S.a.D. Gate" at first the ONLY border crossing, later becoming a secondary one; or was it always a smaller alternative to the main one?

Salah al Din Gate: it would make intuitive sense to look for it where Salah ad-Din Road reaches the border. But the UN map used at Blockade of the Gaza Strip and Gaza–Israel barrier shows "Salah Ad Deen Gate" at the end of Omar Ben (sic) al-Khattib Rd (actually of a street cutting it), while it's actually "Rafah (Al 'Adwa)" crossing southwest of it which is at the Gazan end of Salah ad-Din Road! So the other way round. There are some additional details at Blockade of the Gaza Strip#With Egypt: Salah al-Din Gate: 4 km apart, etc.

Was there a difference of status between Gaza and Sinai when both were under Israeli occupation (1967-82), i.e.: was there a need for a checkpoint of sorts there? If yes, where exactly?

CONTROL: Who controlled and controls what & where? See crt complicated wartime arrangements: need explaining. Options: Isr., Egypt, Hamas, PA, EU mission, Isr checking goods and passing them on to Egypt, nobody checking, Eg. and/or Hamas taxing the goods and making $$$Ms, on top of getting military-use hardware. BIG DIFFERENCE! Article didn't even touch on it until today.

Incredibly weak article, considering the zillion editors contributing to I/P topics. Arminden (talk) 17:07, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Whether the crossing is open or closed in the infobox

Like many, I’ve been trying to follow this using Wikipedia as a reliable source. I think it would be helpful if the open/closed status of the crossing is put in the infobox (alongside the date of source). It’s probably one of the main things that people will read the article to find out. 148.252.147.215 (talk) 14:37, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I thought the current status was "controlled by Israel"? As in, like most borders, it's not "open" but it's still operational, not permanently closed? Currently that is in the box as a footnote. Do you have a specific suggestion of how to change it? Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 06:01, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Quelle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Rafah_Border_Crossing