Talk:Lucky Cannon
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Name...
In the article, decide what you want to call him. For example, in one line, he's referred to, in short, as Emminger, Cannon and Prime. In the same sentence nearly. 99.21.39.181 (talk) 07:04, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
“Lucky” Cannon NbaYxungMarix (talk) 19:35, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
Contested speedy deletion
I've placed a {{hang on}} under the speedy deletion, because this article does not meet the A7 speedy deletion criteria. A7 states that the criteria is only applicable to "an article about a real person that does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject." He is a wrestler for WWE and appeared on NXT. The article is well referenced. This does not deserve to be deleted. NiciVampireHeart 15:39, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
- For any administrator: user who added speedy tag says it was an error. NiciVampireHeart 15:43, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from NiciVampireHeart, 5 February 2011
{{edit protected}}
- Please revert this edit.
- Editor added unsourced information, "After his stint in NXT" down to "general manager, Maxine", and the addition of several unsourced moves in the 'In wrestling' section.
- Wrt to him winning the FCW Florida Heavyweight Championship, he is not listed as having won the championship at FCW's official title history page, and sportifi.com, wrestlenewz.com, and headlocks2headlines.com have not been proven as reliable sources. A search of websites proven reliable turns up nothing about a title change. (Note: a list of reliable wrestling-related sources are listed at WP:PW/SG#Sources.)
NiciVampireHeart 20:36, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
- I'll second this request. The IP editor is using sites that do not meet WP:RS. In fact, he has said that WP:RS isn't important [1]. GaryColemanFan (talk) 06:03, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- I did not say that "reliable sources" are not important. I just said that sometimes reason and good sense are more reliable than some rules. Rules are made by humans and humans can make mistakes. And your "reliable sources" do not care about FCW. Maybe this is "reliable enough" for you. OFFICIAL photos (http://i56.tinypic.com/jj1ulj.jpg) (I have to put it on tinypic because yfrog is not allowed here) and OFFICIAL twitts ("Fcw champ here... Was there ever any doubt lol !? 9:28 AM Feb 4th via Twitter for iPhone") on the OFFICIAL twitter (http://twitter.com/luckycannon) of the OFFICIAL Florida Heavyweight Champion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.14.248.31 (talk) 23:23, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- I Third this after taken a good look at the sources that the IP used they are at most unreliable dirtsheet.--SteamIron 04:02, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- Twitter is not a dirtsheet. And in fact the "unreliable dirtsheets" care more about FCW than your "reliable sources".
- Please see Wikipedia:Verifiability, noting in particular the first line: "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth." What this means is that, even if he did win the title, you would still be wrong in adding it because the information has not been published by a reliable source--and no, a wrestler's Twitter page doesn't make the cut. Until the information is published by either the promotion (in its official title lineage) or a reliable secondary source (an actual established newspaper or news website, Figure 4 Wrestling, Wrestling Observer, Pro Wrestling Torch, SLAM! Sports, and/or WrestleView), it can't be included. GaryColemanFan (talk) 05:35, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- So visit all the websites that you listed and after you do it tell which one of them care about FCW. None of them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.15.30.150 (talk) 05:49, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- It does not matter if they care about FCW it matters that there are reliable source which there are not.--SteamIron 05:53, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- Guy, please, I know that you are not stupid. So I know that you understand what I mean. If they do not care about FCW, they will not publish any information about it. So no "reliable sources" for the articles here.
- The sites above have posted FCW results countless times the fact that your sources have said this makes them questionable as many reliable sources like the ones above have not ie your sources are not backed up--SteamIron 06:09, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- "My" sources are backed up because all the results that "yours" posted, "mine" posted too. Now "yours" do not care about it anymore, so do not publish anything anymore, and "mine" continues to post as always did. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.15.30.150 (talk) 06:14, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- The sites above have posted FCW results countless times the fact that your sources have said this makes them questionable as many reliable sources like the ones above have not ie your sources are not backed up--SteamIron 06:09, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- Guy, please, I know that you are not stupid. So I know that you understand what I mean. If they do not care about FCW, they will not publish any information about it. So no "reliable sources" for the articles here.
- It does not matter if they care about FCW it matters that there are reliable source which there are not.--SteamIron 05:53, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- So visit all the websites that you listed and after you do it tell which one of them care about FCW. None of them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.15.30.150 (talk) 05:49, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- Please see Wikipedia:Verifiability, noting in particular the first line: "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth." What this means is that, even if he did win the title, you would still be wrong in adding it because the information has not been published by a reliable source--and no, a wrestler's Twitter page doesn't make the cut. Until the information is published by either the promotion (in its official title lineage) or a reliable secondary source (an actual established newspaper or news website, Figure 4 Wrestling, Wrestling Observer, Pro Wrestling Torch, SLAM! Sports, and/or WrestleView), it can't be included. GaryColemanFan (talk) 05:35, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- Twitter is not a dirtsheet. And in fact the "unreliable dirtsheets" care more about FCW than your "reliable sources".
- I Third this after taken a good look at the sources that the IP used they are at most unreliable dirtsheet.--SteamIron 04:02, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- I did not say that "reliable sources" are not important. I just said that sometimes reason and good sense are more reliable than some rules. Rules are made by humans and humans can make mistakes. And your "reliable sources" do not care about FCW. Maybe this is "reliable enough" for you. OFFICIAL photos (http://i56.tinypic.com/jj1ulj.jpg) (I have to put it on tinypic because yfrog is not allowed here) and OFFICIAL twitts ("Fcw champ here... Was there ever any doubt lol !? 9:28 AM Feb 4th via Twitter for iPhone") on the OFFICIAL twitter (http://twitter.com/luckycannon) of the OFFICIAL Florida Heavyweight Champion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.14.248.31 (talk) 23:23, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Reverted per consensus. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:11, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- There is no consensus here yet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.15.36.129 (talk) 03:03, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- A clear consensus has been reached that for the time being the information be removed till there are more reliable sources that back up the information so just sit back and relax the information will most likely be added when its backed up by more reliable sources in a few days.--SteamIron 06:25, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
So, does this prove that those "unreliable" sources with FCW reports are right? If the photo proof wasnt enough, how about video of Lucky as the champion? Or do we really have to wait until one of the websites that are "reliable" report it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOZUooRM0XA To me this is one of those things where theres overwhelming things to prove it is true Wrestling0101 (talk) 23:39, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- We have to wait--SteamIron 20:13, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
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Retirement
I can’t find anywhere where a retirement was officially announced? Is there a source for that? He hasn’t wrestled since but that doesn’t necessarily mean he’s retired. 24.243.188.56 (talk) 15:03, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- Also on his instagram he talks about having three more matches in the Indies after his NXT and FCW run. He’s also what looks like a Nurse Practitioner now. But without another verified source we can’t be sure he actually retired, is still doing stuff on the indies, or just took a hiatus from the industry. 24.243.188.56 (talk) 15:13, 9 February 2024 (UTC)