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Talk:Lithuanian partisans

Title

I don't think that this title is the best, I would suggest renaming it to at least Lithuanian partisans 1944-1953. M.K. (talk) 12:54, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I do not see any reason why there is a Latvian national partisans and Lithunaian nationalistic partisans. Most probably it would be better to name both of the articles Organised anti-Soviet Resistance - Lithuanian and Latvian, and also Estonian - as it is called in the accademic monographs.--Lokyz (talk) 00:21, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

uniformed

If this [1] is supposed to be about the fact that they wore military uniforms in accordance with international law, then that fact probably belongs in the third paragraph of the lede. "Uniformed guerrilla warfare" just sounds weird in English. Volunteer Marek  21:42, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The formula may be corrected - it was intended only to stress the units status as Combatants. --Lokyz (talk) 15:17, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Merger proposal

This page was originally The Lithuanian nationalist partisans 1944-1953, however it is now during and after World War II. It thus makes no sense for there to be the small article Lithuanian partisans (1941).  Ronhjones  (Talk) 21:56, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Strongest oppose & speedy remove of tag. Two very different topics, but I see how they can be confusing. 1941 is about collaborations with the nazis, 1944-1953 is about resistance against the soviets. Renata (talk) 22:21, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Citation Needed

Hello! A citation needed tag was recently added to the page regarding Lithuanian resistance to recruitment efforts. The links for the sources cited led to 404 pages, so after a short amount of digging I located the now-archived articles and updated the links. I have also removed the citation needed tag as the sources do describe Lithuanian resistance, and in comparison to Estonia and Latvia, specifically. Please let me know if I made any mistakes in the updates, and how I can improve if I did, thanks! King keudo (talk) 16:39, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sources used for resistance to German occupation

Firstly, they are used to say that Lithuanians strongly opposed German attempts at conscription. But the first source says:

"This defense force was to be under the command of Lithuanians and was intended to operate in Lithuanian territory. Under these conditions, the resistance endorsed the force. Surprisingly, about 20,000 volunteers, twice the requirement, appeared at recruitment points"

In addition, the earlier points at which it argues that there was resistance to recuritment have scant citations. For example, "One German official, Major General Just, succeeded in forming several construction battalions. Despite Soviet allegations, these battalions were composed of draftees, not volunteers; the battalions did not indicate public support for Nazism." (No citation follows)

The second source: "The councilors retorted well to the demands. First of all, the councilors were not legally competent to conscript the nation because they were not a constitutional body with such rights. Second, the Lithuanians knew very well that Lithuania was occupied. They would not listen to the orders of a foreign influenced, unconstitutional administration." (No citation follows)

Thirdly, perhaps most importantly, it seems very biased. Biased language is used very very frequently, for example: "However, the German manpower managers in Berlin did not take into account the fiercely independent nature of the Lithuanians." (very academic and verifiable claims!!) There is also parts of the article that say that the oppression of the Nazis was near identical to the Soviet's. Equating political and economic repression (as the source itself says, the deportations attacked primarily political targets (politicans, policemen, prison guards, etc..) and economic targets (bussiness owners and landlords and such),with the Holocaust and Nazi-led genocide is very suspicous and necesarily devalues the source. Genabab (talk) 13:14, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

'Lithuanian partisans'

The title seems inappropriate, since there were also (pro-)Soviet Lithuanian partisans during the Nazi occupation. For example, the article about the Koniuchy massacre explains that the partisans in the area where it was committed were led by a Lithuanian, Genrikas Zimanas, and the leader of the Soviet Partisan movement in Lithuania was also a Lithuanian, Antanas Sniečkus. We shouldn't pretend that those Lithuanians who chose to align with the Soviets were ipso facto not Lithuanians or just did not exist. Perhaps the title of this article should be 'Lithuanian national partisans', similar to 'Latvian national partisans'. 62.73.72.3 (talk) 08:59, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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