Talk:Hodierna of Jerusalem/GA1
GA Review
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Nominator: Surtsicna (talk · contribs) 10:21, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: Borsoka (talk · contribs) 13:10, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
- Is it well written?
- A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
- B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
- A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
- Is it verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check?
- A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
- B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):
- C. It contains no original research:
- D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
- A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
- Is it broad in its coverage?
- A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
- B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
- A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
- Is it neutral?
- It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
- It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
- Is it stable?
- It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
- It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
- Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
- A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:
- B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
- A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:
- Overall:
- Pass or Fail:
- Pass or Fail:
Source review
- Academic sources, including a monography about Hodierna, are cited.
- Hamilton (1978): ISBN is missing. Borsoka (talk) 13:20, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- References 1, 12, 16, 20, 21, 27 are verified.
- Reference 26 is to be fixed (page).
Image review
- File:BnF ms. 854 fol. 121v - Jaufré Rudel (2).jpg: US PD tag is needed.
- File:Manuel1 Marie.jpg: US PD tag is needed; the source is a dead link (I would delete because there is no direct connection between Manuel and Hodierna).
- File:Harvard Theatre Collection - Sarah Bernhardt, La Princesse Lointaine, TC-2 (cropped).jpg: US PD tag is needed. Borsoka (talk) 13:20, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Comments
- ...a Frankish crusader... Frankish? Can we refer to him as a crusader at the time of Hodierna's birth?
- ...the states established in 1099... Edessa and Antioch were established in 1098. The establishment of Edessa is not directly connected to a victory over the Muslims.
- Since he no longer expected to have a son, King Baldwin... I would rephrase because the previous sentence refers to Raymond: "Since King Baldwin...., he..."
- ...may have been betrothed to... Attribute this PoV to a scholar. I would rephrase either this or the previous sentence about a possible betrothal (for instance, in the previous sentence "the prospect of marriage/eventual marriage/..." could be mentioned.
- I would mention that the Convent of Saint Anne was in Jerusalem.
- ... in an effort to provide for her youngest sisters, Hodierna and Ioveta... Ioveta?
- Ioveta, on the other hand, was made an abbess. Is this necessary?
- "Dealing with pretenders" is a misleading title, it implies pretenders and tacitly attributes their faith to Hodierna.
- An anonymous monk... I would clarify that he was a French monk, or that he wrote it in France.
- Alfonso's son Bertrand... I would mention that he was an illegitimate son.
- ...who seized Urayma and captured Bertrand... Close paraphrasing?
- ...the queen had an accomplice... I would name the queen.
- ... he fell in love with Countess Hodierna without ever having seen her; he then sailed to Tripoli, only to die in her arms. Rephrase to avoid close paraphrasing.
- ...with Countess Hodierna... Delete her title.
- Link Occitan.
- ...might hint that Hodierna was the first to introduce the Templars in Tripoli... Rephrase to avoid close paraphrasing.
- ...after her father-in-law spurned them Delete (it is only an assumption and not too relevant).
- Lewis speculates that Raymond envied her higher social status. This is not what Lewis writes (and page 168 should also be referred to cover the whole situation).
- ...decided to take Hodierna back to Jerusalem. Rephrase to avoid close paraphrasing.
- ...while he was returning to Tripoli,... He was assassinated when he arrived at the city.
- ...his mother and aunt... I would name them.
- Why do not you mention Richard's alternative view of Hodierna's regency?
- ...Emperor Manuel I Komnenos asked King Baldwin to select a new wife for the widowed emperor... Rephrase to make it clear that Manuel was the widowed emperor.
- ...had secretly chosen... Secretly?
- ...followed the "somewhat disappointing example set by his father rather than the more promising precedent of his mother",... In what?
- ...though she had a greater influence On what/who?
- ...most countesses of Tripoli are relatively obscure figures... Rephrase to avoid close paraphrasing.
- Rudel's infatuation with Hodierna remained a topic of popular interest into the modern period, becoming the subject of the 19th-century operetta La Princesse lointaine by Edmond Rostand and a joke in one of P. G. Wodehouse’s novellas in the 20th century. Rephrase to avoid close paraphrasing. Borsoka (talk) 03:26, 22 December 2024 (UTC)