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Add the flag back

Every federal subject of the Russian Federation has a flag and coat of arms. This is reflected in the Luhansk People's Republic, Republic of Crimea (Russia), Russian occupation of Kherson Oblast, Russian occupation of Zaporizhzhia Oblast pages.

Additionally, since User:Rsk6400 claims that there is no use of the flag in 2024, here is the link of the website of the Head of the Donetsk People's Republic: https://denis-pushilin.ru/. This website is regularly updated with news of government business and clearly displays the usage of the flag and coat of arms.

Thereby, these edits should be reversed immediately. Mysteriousgadfly (talk) 20:35, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That looks like a private website. ManyAreasExpert (talk) 21:03, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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This is the official website of the Government of the DPR. It is regularly updated and features the flag and coat of arms, specifically in reporting of recent events.

The same address is verified by the Library of Congress. [[2]]

I don't understand what User:Rsk6400's issue is with the flag and coat of arms. Other pages regarding the 4 disputed regions on Wikipedia have flags and coat of arms, just as every federal subject does. The DPR did not magically cease to use their government's symbols, as evidenced by all of the links that I have posted. Mysteriousgadfly (talk) 23:02, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RS describe the "DPR" as a "Mafia-like" structure (Klaus Gestwa) or use similar terms. Meaning, anything "official" is still not reliable. Also, you might want to read MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE. Rsk6400 (talk) 04:58, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have restored the items per the MOS referenced, with the two items under discussion being the likely to be seen at a glance and likely expected by readers. Traditionally we have had such information for all polities that have them, the recent exception from RfC was for micronations, and this is not one of those. CMD (talk) 05:11, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete territorial control map

The territorial control map should be deleted as this article is about an entity that exists under Russian law, not about the military situation on the territory of the DPR. The territorial control vs. claimed territory distinction can be made by using a lighter shade of red on the map of the Russian federal subjects just below the current territorial control map.

If the territorial control map is to remain on this article, then it would make sense to add such a map for Jammu and Kashmir, Taiwan, and the Gaza Strip. Mysteriousgadfly (talk) 04:53, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, there is a big difference. This is territory militarily by one side during an active war. North8000 (talk) 13:28, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 19 November 2024

Change "In February 2017 a bomb planted in an office killed Mikhail Tolstykh ("Givi")." to "In February 2017 a remotely triggered rocket launcher killed Mikhail Tolstykh ("Givi")." Under the Law and order section.

Source: "Using a remote trigger, they fired the launcher as soon as Givi entered his office, killing him, according to U.S. and Ukrainian officials." -NYT https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/25/world/europe/cia-ukraine-intelligence-russia-war.html#:~:text=It%20was%20directly%20across%20from,war%20was%20now%20in%20overdrive. GratedPirateBoat (talk) 21:57, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Rainsage (talk) 19:37, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lead section

The last paragraph of the lead section describes the pre-annexation "separatist" situation. It should be moved earlier in the lead, describing the separatist entity before annexation, and changed mostly to past tense. Also, naming the current leader/Head is not necessary in the lead, the infobox is for that. Paragraph in question follows:

The Head of DPR is Denis Pushilin, and its parliament is the People's Council. The ideology of the DPR is shaped by right-wing Russian nationalism, Russian imperialism, and Orthodox fundamentalism.^[1] Russian far-right groups played an important role among the separatists, especially at the beginning of the conflict.^[2] Organizations such as the UN Human Rights Office and Human Rights Watch have reported human rights abuses in the DPR, including internment, torture, extrajudicial killings, and forced conscription,^[3] as well as political and media repression. The DPR People's Militia has also been held responsible for war crimes, among them the shooting down of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17.^[4] Ukraine views the DPR and LPR as terrorist organisations.^[5]

Mats84 (talk) 13:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

^ Likhachev, Vyacheslav (July 2016). "The Far Right in the Conflict between Russia and Ukraine" (PDF). Russie.NEI.Visions in English. pp. 25–26. Retrieved 1 March 2022. The ideas of Russian imperial (and, to some extent, ethnic) nationalism and Orthodox fundamentalism shaped the official ideology of the DNR and LNR. ... It can therefore be argued that the official ideology of the DNR and LNR, which developed under the influence of Russian far-right activists, is largely right-wing, conservative and xenophobic in character.
^ Likhachev, Vyacheslav (July 2016). "The Far Right in the Conflict between Russia and Ukraine" (PDF). Russie.NEI.Visions in English. pp. 21–22. Retrieved 1 March 2022. Members of far-right groups played a much greater role on the Russian side of the conflict than on the Ukrainian side, especially at the beginning.
^ Bachelet, Michelle (5 July 2022). "Ukraine: High Commissioner updates Human Rights Council". Office of the High Commissioner on Human Rights (United Nations). Retrieved 6 February 2023. We are also concerned about confirmed allegations of forced conscription by Russian-affiliated armed groups at the end of February 2022, in Donetsk and Luhansk.
^ Corder, Mike; Casert, Raf (18 November 2022). "3 convicted in 2014 downing of Malaysian jet over Ukraine". Associated Press.
^ "Ukraine's prosecutor general classifies self-declared Donetsk and Luhansk republics as terrorist organizations". Kyiv Post. 16 May 2014. Archived from the original on 24 February 2016. Retrieved 18 February 2016.