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Talk:Danielle Sassoon

Unexplained deletion ..

Here. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Danielle_Sassoon&diff=prev&oldid=1275727311

It is certainly not vandalism, but the editor left no edit summary. Which is not appropriate.

And the material deleted was appropriate. And RS-sourced.

It's also odd that the editor would want to keep in only the father's prior (admittedly, 30-year) firm, but would want to delete his (obvious) current firm.

2603:7000:2101:AA00:C032:8598:6C1E:51E4 (talk) 18:40, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bove

It says that Bove accepted Sassoon‘s resignation. Should it be Bondi? Bjan999 (talk) 18:56, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

While Sassoon addressed her letter to Bondi, Bove wrote the reply. The likely explanation is that Bondi does not want to attach her name to this scandal, but we need not speculate in the article. ViridianPenguin🐧 (💬) 21:25, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lede

Per wp:lede, "The lead should stand on its own as a concise overview of the article's topic. It should identify the topic, establish context, explain why the topic is notable, and summarize the most important points, including any prominent controversies. The notability of the article's subject is usually established in the first few sentences. As in the body of the article itself, the emphasis given to material in the lead should roughly reflect its importance to the topic, according to reliable, published sources."

That's what it did. Prior to this deletion. With the edit summary "Appreciate the identification of Sassoon's prior teaching and private law work, but the lead should focus on her major notability at SDNY". https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Danielle_Sassoon&diff=prev&oldid=1275742089

I believe the deleted material should be restored. Under wp:lede. It is what is called for by "establishing context." And summarizing the most important points." While at the same time giving emphasis to material reflecting importance to the topic, by emphasizing what she is most notable for.

WP:lede does not say "delete everything other than what the person is most known for. Which is what that deletion would yield. A brief sentence on her educational background, and also mention of her clerkships and litigation associate work, are exactly what "context" would very much appear to consist of. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:C032:8598:6C1E:51E4 (talk) 20:44, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Taking this position's three most recent officeholders as examples (Geoffrey Berman, Audrey Strauss, and Damian Williams), it is unusual to include someone's educational background, clerkships, or short private sector work in the lead. The bios of DOJ lawyers only get that much detail when they get as long as something like Merrick Garland. I did not mean to suggest the lead can only contain the most important aspect of their life, so I think we can compromise: I am adding her prominent role in the prosecution of SBF and Larry Ray now. ViridianPenguin🐧 (💬) 21:34, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Federalist Society bio

The Federalist Society takes no responsibility for the biographical info it publishes and makes it clear that Sassoon provided the info. It's essentially self-published and we shouldn't be using it as a source. We have better and reliable sources anyway. Rutsq (talk) 22:12, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion

This deletion strikes me as editorializing by the deleter. The RSs state it. The deleting editor wishes to hide it. The editor's discussion of this as a partisan issue is unfounded - that's not the reason to reflect it. We follow the RSs. That's how we avoid individual editor subjective editorializing. I would urge that it be restore, rather than rely on the deleter's belief that there is general point reflected in other areas of the article such as the infobox, which drives the need for the deleter to delete what the RSs reflect. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Danielle_Sassoon&diff=prev&oldid=1275893855 2603:7000:2101:AA00:7DA5:8438:50BF:2855 (talk) 18:43, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Age

Her age has apparently been deleted from the lede, is in the text and the infobox, and I'm not sure what the support is. But don't we have her age as of the date in articles, so can reflect her "as of " age using the template? Sourcing to one of those articles? (In the absence of a precise age). 2603:7000:2101:AA00:51B2:B05D:42F:C638 (talk) 19:42, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

Created by ViridianPenguin (talk), 2603:7000:2101:aa00:51b2:b05d:42f:c638 (talk), Lhimec (talk),

PepsiStripMine (talk), Rlendog (talk) and Schwede66 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 167 past nominations.

Schwede66 22:25, 16 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: ViridianPenguin, 2603:7000:2101:aa00:51b2:b05d:42f:c638, Lhimec, and Schwede66: Nice work on this article/nomination. I'm pinging you all (except 2603, who unfortunately cannot be pinged due to technical limitations) because it seems like there may be a few other major contributors to this article who aren't listed here, and I wanted to know whether you're okay with adding them as co-noms. Epicgenius (talk) 15:09, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please go ahead with adding other contributors. I did not notice that the redirect had an edit history. Schwede66 15:32, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I have added two other editors to this nomination. I also have a question for 2603 specifically—is Special:Contributions/2603:7000:2101:AA00:C032:8598:6C1E:51E4 you? If not, I will add that IP address as a co-nominator as well. Epicgenius (talk) 16:33, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]