Talk:Danielle Sassoon
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Unexplained deletion ..
Here. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Danielle_Sassoon&diff=prev&oldid=1275727311
It is certainly not vandalism, but the editor left no edit summary. Which is not appropriate.
And the material deleted was appropriate. And RS-sourced.
It's also odd that the editor would want to keep in only the father's prior (admittedly, 30-year) firm, but would want to delete his (obvious) current firm.
2603:7000:2101:AA00:C032:8598:6C1E:51E4 (talk) 18:40, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
Bove
It says that Bove accepted Sassoon‘s resignation. Should it be Bondi? Bjan999 (talk) 18:56, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- While Sassoon addressed her letter to Bondi, Bove wrote the reply. The likely explanation is that Bondi does not want to attach her name to this scandal, but we need not speculate in the article. ViridianPenguin🐧 (💬) 21:25, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
Lede
Per wp:lede, "The lead should stand on its own as a concise overview of the article's topic. It should identify the topic, establish context, explain why the topic is notable, and summarize the most important points, including any prominent controversies. The notability of the article's subject is usually established in the first few sentences. As in the body of the article itself, the emphasis given to material in the lead should roughly reflect its importance to the topic, according to reliable, published sources."
That's what it did. Prior to this deletion. With the edit summary "Appreciate the identification of Sassoon's prior teaching and private law work, but the lead should focus on her major notability at SDNY". https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Danielle_Sassoon&diff=prev&oldid=1275742089
I believe the deleted material should be restored. Under wp:lede. It is what is called for by "establishing context." And summarizing the most important points." While at the same time giving emphasis to material reflecting importance to the topic, by emphasizing what she is most notable for.
WP:lede does not say "delete everything other than what the person is most known for. Which is what that deletion would yield. A brief sentence on her educational background, and also mention of her clerkships and litigation associate work, are exactly what "context" would very much appear to consist of. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:C032:8598:6C1E:51E4 (talk) 20:44, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- Taking this position's three most recent officeholders as examples (Geoffrey Berman, Audrey Strauss, and Damian Williams), it is unusual to include someone's educational background, clerkships, or short private sector work in the lead. The bios of DOJ lawyers only get that much detail when they get as long as something like Merrick Garland. I did not mean to suggest the lead can only contain the most important aspect of their life, so I think we can compromise: I am adding her prominent role in the prosecution of SBF and Larry Ray now. ViridianPenguin🐧 (💬) 21:34, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
Federalist Society bio
The Federalist Society takes no responsibility for the biographical info it publishes and makes it clear that Sassoon provided the info. It's essentially self-published and we shouldn't be using it as a source. We have better and reliable sources anyway. Rutsq (talk) 22:12, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
Deletion
This deletion strikes me as editorializing by the deleter. The RSs state it. The deleting editor wishes to hide it. The editor's discussion of this as a partisan issue is unfounded - that's not the reason to reflect it. We follow the RSs. That's how we avoid individual editor subjective editorializing. I would urge that it be restore, rather than rely on the deleter's belief that there is general point reflected in other areas of the article such as the infobox, which drives the need for the deleter to delete what the RSs reflect. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Danielle_Sassoon&diff=prev&oldid=1275893855 2603:7000:2101:AA00:7DA5:8438:50BF:2855 (talk) 18:43, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
Age
Her age has apparently been deleted from the lede, is in the text and the infobox, and I'm not sure what the support is. But don't we have her age as of the date in articles, so can reflect her "as of " age using the template? Sourcing to one of those articles? (In the absence of a precise age). 2603:7000:2101:AA00:51B2:B05D:42F:C638 (talk) 19:42, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
Did you know nomination
- ... that Danielle Sassoon, a former acting U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, credits her study of the Talmud as preparing her for her future legal career?
- Source: Sources: February 12, 2025, New York Times article: "An Ambitious Prosecutor Quits Rather Than Do Trump’s Bidding; Danielle R. Sassoon, Manhattan’s interim U.S. attorney, built a life on conservative values and amassed a daunting resume. On Thursday, she took a stand against the Justice Department where she had made her career. " "In high school, she spent hours each day studying the Talmud, an effort that she has said prepared her to study law." and December 22, 2020, video at 21:01: "Alumni in Conversation: Clerking for the Supreme Court." "When I interviewed for the clerkship with Justice Scala ... among the things he asked me was ' What prepared you to do well in law school; what sparked your interest in the law?', and what came to mind and what I said was 'in high school I studied Talmud for hours every day, and that process of engaging in really what's a form of the Socratic method, which is how they teach law school, and also spending days unpacking the meaning of a single word or a single line, prepared me for analyzing the law in a similar way,' and in a vein that was very appealing to Justice Scalia ...."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Louafi Bouguera Olympic Bridge
- Comment: Nominated on behalf of 2603:7000:2101:aa00:51b2:b05d:42f:c638, who has dozens of DYKs and who has provided the QPQ. My role in this is as nominator.
Schwede66 22:25, 16 February 2025 (UTC).
- I like it for emphasizing Sassoon's commitment to textualism! I edited the hook to insert the article "a" before her title, which I figured was minor enough to avoid proposing an Alt0b hook. I also want to note that while I was a major contributor to this article, it was Lhimec who wrote its initial content at Danielle R. Sassoon. Following WP:MIDDLENAME, I moved it to the current article title. ViridianPenguin🐧 (💬) 00:06, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
- I'm gonna review this article shortly. I just wanted to note that I added Lhimec as a nominator per the previous page history of Danielle Renee Sassoon. Epicgenius (talk) 15:04, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
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Overall: ViridianPenguin, 2603:7000:2101:aa00:51b2:b05d:42f:c638, Lhimec, and Schwede66: Nice work on this article/nomination. I'm pinging you all (except 2603, who unfortunately cannot be pinged due to technical limitations) because it seems like there may be a few other major contributors to this article who aren't listed here, and I wanted to know whether you're okay with adding them as co-noms. Epicgenius (talk) 15:09, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
- Please go ahead with adding other contributors. I did not notice that the redirect had an edit history. Schwede66 15:32, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, I have added two other editors to this nomination. I also have a question for 2603 specifically—is Special:Contributions/2603:7000:2101:AA00:C032:8598:6C1E:51E4 you? If not, I will add that IP address as a co-nominator as well. Epicgenius (talk) 16:33, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
- Yes. I have a dynamic IP. Thank you.2603:7000:2101:AA00:981F:47ED:5A20:6E76 (talk) 09:31, 18 February 2025 (UTC)