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• What I think should be changed (include citations):

Hello, I am an employee of Dan Abrams. His Wikipedia page is dated, so we are trying to update the information, namely the introductory paragraphs and his picture. We do not want to insert any biases but simply want to add the information with their corresponding citations. Here is our updated info with citations:

Daniel Abrams (born May 20, 1966)^[1] is an American media entrepreneur,^[2] television host,^[3] and NY Times bestselling author.^[4][5][6] He sold Law&Crime in October 2023 to video content startup Jellysmack in a deal reportedly worth $125 million.^[7] He is also the owner of the media and politics site, Mediaite, and other digital properties such as the fine spirits and events company Bottle Raiders^[8] and is the proprietor of EV&Em Vineyards, named after his children Everett and Emilia, in New York's North Fork.^[9][10]

On television, Abrams is the host of the prime-time show Dan Abrams Live on NewsNation,^[11] On Patrol: Live on Reelz,^[12] and creator and host of Court Cam, a Law&Crime production on A&E.^[13] He is also the Chief Legal Analyst for ABC News^[14] and host of a daily radio show, The Dan Abrams Show: Where Politics Meets The Law^[15][16] on SiriusXM's P.O.T.U.S. channel.

He has written numerous books: Man Down: Proof Beyond a Reasonable Doubt That Women Are Better Cops, Drivers, Gamblers, Spies, World Leaders, Beer Tasters, Hedge Fund Managers and Just About Everything Else, which was a Washington Post Bestseller;^[17] Lincoln's Last Trial: The Murder Case That Propelled Him to the Presidency; Theodore Roosevelt for the Defense: The Courtroom Battle to Save His Legacy; John Adams Under Fire: The Founding Father's Fight for Justice in the Boston Massacre Murder Trial, all of which spent multiple weeks on the New York Times Best Seller list.^[18][19] Most recently, he released Kennedy's Avenger: Assassination, Conspiracy, and the Forgotten Trial of Jack Ruby and Alabama v. King: Martin Luther King Jr. and the Criminal Trial That Launched the Civil Rights Movement.

Abrams was the host of Live PD on the A&E cable network and was formerly an anchor of Nightline. He also worked as the chief legal correspondent and analyst for NBC News and general manager of MSNBC, and doubled as an anchor for the same network.^[20][21][22] He began his professional career in 1994 as a reporter for Court TV, covering, among others, the O.J. Simpson murder trial.^[23]

• Why it should be changed: The page should be updated because it is significantly out of date.

2020AM2009 (talk) 18:44, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not Done. That looks like far too much info to be placing in the intro section, and the list of books is clearly highly promotional (contrary to your comment above). As a general guideline, the intro should be an overview, the details should be in the body of the article.

If you are looking to massively expand the intro with material that is already within the article then the answer is, no you can't do that. If you are looking to massively expand the intro with material that isn't already within the article, the answer is no the material belongs in the body of the article.

If you wish to make specific sourced changes then I suggest you make a further request, specifying clearly what the additions are, rather than providing a large section of re-written text and expecting volunteers to work that out for themselves. However, most of new the material ought to be going in the body of the article.

The present article was also tagged as being of a promotional nature in Sept 24, which is an issue that you may wish to contribute to resolving, rather than trying to make the situation worse than it is at present.

Also, I note that you were warned on your talk page about making promotional edit to the Dan Abrams article back in 2021, but continued to do so for 3 years until we reach the present situation where you are largest single contributor to the article and then two weeks ago you declare a conflict of interest. That is a very poor show indeed. Axad12 (talk) 16:59, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Our goal here is not to make the page more self-promotional, but rather just the opposite: to make it shorter and more accurate. We completely agree that the current structure doesn't work. We are happy to help make the page much more succinct because someone else, not us, included much of the detail about his career that is now either outdated or irrelevant. So, we are all in agreement that the page needs work, we just need some advice on how to make it better comply with the standards. Our idea for editing is to remove the surplus of section headers (that have already been flagged as too many by Wikipedia) and add details about Abrams' current projects and entrepreneurial work, which is not on the page as it stands. Please advise. Thanks. 2020AM2009 (talk) 20:13, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]