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Updated the first UbuWEB link... the other one was directing to information about sculptor Richard Serra. Tried a "search" on the site and got "page not found". Clicked "Cornelius Cardew" in the "history page" and got the Richard Serra info again... weird. finally got to the right place though via other Cardew pages on UbuWEB...Funks 20:38, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

John Gielgud's (left wing) character in The Shooting Party ([1]) is called Cornelius Cardew. Anyone able to shed any light on this connection? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Treblekicker (talk • contribs) 11:05, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

i've changed "Cardew explained his rejection of the avant-garde" to "Cardew stated his attitude towards the avante-garde" as the set-up for the Stockhausen Serves Imperialism quote. its a bit of an inadequate "explanation"; another statment based on the same reasoning but with much less "born again" connotation could be found easily enough.Hjijch 05:29, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I can't find a reliable citation to this quote:

I'm convinced that when a group of people get together and sing The Internationale this is a more complex, more subtle, stronger and more musical experience than the whole of the avant-garde put together.

I am aware that a page number is needed; should also have a formal reference to the published book. Minimac (talk) 16:36, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See Kyle Gann's article here. Since Gann is very well-known (and obviously quotes from some source known to him), I think the article qualifies as a reliable source. --Jashiin (talk) 16:53, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Someone else might wish to decide if this book can listed as further reading. I assembled it so cannot really make that choice! http://stefan-szczelkun.blogspot.com/2017/11/improvisation-rites-from-john-cages.html Szczels (talk) 14:01, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If Cardew was Maoist at one point, why not mention that fact in the text of this article (if only briefly)? 98.123.38.211 (talk) 15:37, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]