Talk:Agustín Ross Cultural Centre
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GA Review
- This review is transcluded from Talk:Agustín Ross Cultural Center/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: SynergyStar (talk • contribs • count) 02:55, 17 September 2011 (UTC) GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
This article is an interesting summary of a unique historical location, it was very informative and interesting to read. The details and scope show diligent effort by the editors of the article, and are a credit to their dedication and contributory spirit.
- It is reasonably well written.
- a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
- The prose issues listed in the earlier review have been largely addressed, which has improved the article. There are some further areas though (italics indicate suggested changes):
Lead
-- "It is best known for housing one of the first casinos..." avoids the one/one issue.
-- "The building has been used" -- "The building has also been used"
1885–1906
-- Is there any specific information on when the idea, planning, etc. for the cultural center came about? The article talks about the Gran Hotel Pichilemu and in the next section jumps to the cultural center being built, without specifically mentioning its conception. A sentence could preface the construction of the center (e.g. "Following the development of the Gran Hotel Pichilemu, Ross Edwards decided that the city needed a central attraction...").
1906–1930
-- Why were the services exclusive to the Hotel Empresa Pichilemu, and not the Gran Hotel Pichilemu? Were both of these Ross Edwards' establishments? There is no mention of the Hotel Empresa until its exclusive agreement is discussed. Perhaps there could be more detail about the Hotel Empresa connection (was it the best hotel in town, which is why it had those exclusive services?).
-- "historiographers Antonio Saldías and José Arraño Acevedo have pointed out that it was inaugurated as..."
-- "...to Argentinean businessman Alfredo Master; Saldías also noted..." -- the semi-colon should be replaced with a period to avoid a run-on sentence. There should also be a citation for Saldias' claim.
-- "casino of Chile, opened all others were declared illegal." -- needs a semicolon to become "casino of Chile, opened; all others were declared illegal."
-- "Ross had died in 1925" -- the "had" should be removed.
1930–1995
-- Foreign terms are italicized throughout the article, except "boîte"...please italicize that as well.
1995–present
-- "The budget was increased by 100 million pesos to 663,702,000 pesos (US$1,327,404) because there was "additional work to do"" -- the translated reference does not exactly show this quote, perhaps it can be paraphrased without the quote, e.g. "The budget was increased...to accommodate additional restoration work."
-- "mansard roof" can be linked.
-- "Some months later, on 23 August, Valenzuela announced that the restoration of the building..."
-- "The cultural center would be managed by a non-political organization called the Corporación Cultural de Pichilemu (Pichilemu Cultural Corporation, which was eventually formed in June 2009)" -- this seems out of place, since it was formed later. Perhaps the management detail could be moved to after the January 2009 opening (e.g. "An exhibition of photographs by Ana María Encina Lemarchand was the first to be staged in the restored building. In June 2009, a non-political organization called the Corporación Cultural de Pichilemu (Pichilemu Cultural Corporation) was formed to manage the cultural center. The inauguration was supposed to take place...")
-- "northwest and southeast towers"
-- The "1995–present" section is twice as long as all the others. Perhaps it could be split into "1995–2008: Restoration" and "2009–present: Cultural center", right before the paragraph about the re-opening.
Public library
-- "Alejandra Domedel" -- who is she? An identifier (e.g. "curator", "head librarian", etc.) would help.
In popular culture
-- "Agustín Ross" is linked; this appears to be an overlink when "Agustín Ross Edwards" is linked above.
Done Update: the above concerns have been addressed.
- The prose issues listed in the earlier review have been largely addressed, which has improved the article. There are some further areas though (italics indicate suggested changes):
- a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
- Improved since the previous review, good job. Checklinks also indicates that all web references are active. The article overall seems to reflect the sources well. Two formatting corrections are still needed however:
-- As in the previous review, please change "Septiembre" to "September" for consistency.
-- the last reference, please italicize Pichilemu News for consistency.
Done Update: the above concerns have been addressed.
- Improved since the previous review, good job. Checklinks also indicates that all web references are active. The article overall seems to reflect the sources well. Two formatting corrections are still needed however:
- a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- Addresses the topic's main aspects. Focused on the topic without extraneous detail.
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Neutrally presented.
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- Article is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- Images are copyright tagged, with rationale; the 1935 photo has an 'explanation' of Chilean copyright, while the 1910 one has a link to the explanation, but both are ok; there is a completed fair-use claim for the library logo. The image selection, placement, and captions service the article well. Nice job on the double picture for the library.
- a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
- I am putting this article on hold for approximately one week to address the remaining issues; should they be satisfactorily resolved, this article is likely to get GA status.
- Pass/Fail:
- I think I fixed everything, I'm not sure about the sentence I added to the "idea" section, but otherwise, it's all fixed. :) BTW... thank you for reviewing the article! Diego talk 18:52, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
- Done Thank you for addressing these concerns in a very expedient manner!! I also made several minor adjustments for grammar and to complete all the mentioned items. This article offers a nice historical, contextual, and general overview of an interesting building. Congratulations on making it a Good Article. SynergyStar (talk) 20:16, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
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