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http://www.musicsrc.com/video/Green_Day_-_Whatsername_%28Official_Unrele.php?id=7F_9ND5SEDQ&artist=Green+Day&song=Whatsername Inclucde in article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.200.230.74 (talk) 23:13, 14 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The section that explains the story of the album and the meaning of the songs should be reinstated. --Arcai, 12:04, 17 July, 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arcai (talk • contribs) 16:05, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is a section that explains the story. WesleyDodds (talk) 20:38, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The section about the various releases that was deleted on 20:31, 3 June 2009 should be restored.

there are multiple spelling errors under story, would someone be kind enough to fix this? Tq6993 (talk) 20:03, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"In mid-2003, Green Day convened at Studio 880 in Oakland, California, and recorded about 20 songs for a new album titled Cigarettes and Valentines.[3][4] However, in November 2002 the master tracks went missing."

How could they have made the album in 2003, and have it stolen in 2002? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.217.61.141 (talk) 17:08, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

check your sources again it mght have been a typo or something else along those lines. but there has been speculation that Cigarettes & Valentine was never recorded and that the band made the whole thing up, personally i think its true but look it up and decide for yourself. Tq6993 (talk) 19:55, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The title song, "Cigarettes and Valentines" was played during the warm up for a show in Las Vegas back in mid-July. The album is most likely real, and the 2002 thing was probably a typo. AlexanderAwful (talk) 21:14, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It was also played on yesterday in Denver. http://www.greendayauthority.com/news/738/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by QWERTY531 (talk • contribs) 11:25, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The songs "Homecoming" and "She's a Rebel" are pop punk. This album is also pop punk. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.122.158.14 (talk) 14:15, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No. how about this...compare "She's a Rebel" to, say, blink-182's, well, anything. NO F*CKING SIMILARITY! same for homecoming! compare this album...hell, this band, to blink-182 or simple plan or +44 or Sum 41. NOW compare to ramones, sex pistols, or Anti-Flags less aggressive stuff. MUCH better comparison. --Greenday21 (talk) 20:32, 24 September 2008 (UTC)Greenday21[reply]

Don't be daft. It's just as pop punk as Blink, Sum 41 etc. They don't have to sound exactly the same. There's nothing wrong being pop punk, just accept it. Nouse4aname (talk)

True, Green Day are definately pop-punk. Sonic Youth don't sound too much like RHCP but both are (arguably) alternative rock. Calling a band pop-punk isn't an insult, but if blink-182 are pop-punk then Green Day are too. Try listening to 'Feelin' This' next to 'Holiday' and it might seem a little clearer.--Rikkyc (talk) 04:45, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

American Idiot is a rip off of the Dillinger Four song Double Whiskey Coke No Ice!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.169.13.183 (talk) 19:36, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

LOL. Found a video here. Sounds plausible, but it's original research if the claim is not covered in reliable sources. If no sources can be found, then it doesn't belong in Wikipedia. Interestingly, this isn't the first time there's been a complaint of plagiarism on American Idiot. Oasis complained that they ripped off "Wonderwall" for "Boulevard of Broken Dreams". I know that claim is notable because of the wide coverage it received, but can anyone find anything on this latest claim? --Pwnage8 (talk) 06:46, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't look like any copyright issues were ever brought up between the two bands but yes, there is a definite resemblance between the song "American Idiot" and the older "Doublewhiskeycokenoice" which can be found listed on the wikipedia article "Midwestern Songs of the Americas", the name of a Dillinger Four album from 1998! 69.177.131.77 (talk) 20:04, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I know I'm late to the party on this, but the other day I was listening to some old Nirvana and noticed GD's "She's a Rebel" bears an unmistakable (though superficial) similarity to Nirvana's "Molly's Lips" (itself a Vaselines cover) off the Incesticide CD. Thought it worth a mention. 24.79.89.131 (talk) 03:18, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't "Jesus of Suburbia" and "Homecoming" have subheadings regarding its different song parts, along the lines of:

• I. "Jesus of Suburbia"
• II. "City of the Damned"
• III. "I Don't Care"
• IV. "Dearly Beloved"
• V. "Tales of Another Broken Home"

which is actually how it's listed in the "Jesus of Suburbia" article itself. Also the tracklisting in any Record store website or the actual CD itself doesn't list it as having 21 tracks, but rather those two tracks are 9:10 and 9:21 long respectively and have subheadings. I'm pretty sure that's how it was at one point and someone changed it for some reason? Feudonym (talk) 09:16, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly, that's how it is on the back, It would be fine, if not better if someone put what you have up there, but with roman numerals, and spaced like an outline, and not put as seperate tracks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiraisgod666 (talk • contribs) 04:08, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I thought the master tapes for Cigarettes and Valentines were stolen, instead of lost —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.206.139.28 (talk) 15:56, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The problem I think is that no one has come up with a reliable source to use as a reference for this bit of background. As soon as someone can link to, say a journalist who had just been told this by Billie Joe, there would be little question. HelpnWP (talk) 06:30, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Now I have a question, is Saint Jimmy a reference to Jimmy Zerda? His nickname is/was St. Jimmy, and he, along with the character in the song died of a self inflicted gunshot wound. Just noticing the parallels. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.207.105.119 (talk) 00:54, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The bonus track "Favorite Son" (as Favorite Son (song)) redirects to this article, yet there is not even a mention of this song or any of the other American Idiot bonus tracks on this article. Shouldn't we include them? 69.177.131.77 (talk) 20:35, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No. indopug (talk) 04:19, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why not? 98.203.152.242 (talk) 06:21, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I added a section for the b-sides and out-takes, but people keep removing it. Check it. It should still be there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.109.27.250 (talk) 18:50, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've heard that a musical of the album is being made right now - supposed to start in Berkeley in a few months if I'm not mistaken. If we can get reliable sources, shouldn't this be included? 98.113.19.51 (talk) 22:24, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I just read an article in the LA Times about this... here's the link: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/culturemonster/2009/08/berkeley-rep-announces-cast-for-green-days-american-idiot.html If I have time, I'll throw this into the article, but feel free to do it yourself Thomas Dzubin (talk) 18:02, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Anybody know if Whatsername was going to be a single or something, because on youtube, I found an unreleased music video for the song. I found that kind of strange. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RickWilliams75 (talk • contribs) 03:30, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Probably fan made. Don't think they would have gone with 6 singles off the album, too many for a rock band usually. k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 05:45, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

According to the page, over 16 million copies have been sold of American Idiot. Is that really true? I tried checking the source but unfortunately it's not a website link or anything - it's just the name of an article or something. --Jesant13 (talk) 01:21, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't got the magazine, so can't verify it, but the same source was used way back in February to state it had sold 10 million copies; here. So it is probably inflated and incorrect. k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 03:07, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hell no. there is no song on this album that is punk rock. in case you didn't know, punk rock may b green days earlier music but not this. The Ramones are punk, The clash The Misfits, Unsane, Suicidal Tendencies, maybe even some CKY. CrowzRSA 00:34, 1 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

oh yea?how about letterbomb? notice the similarities with gd's early stuff? I'm sick of all those guys like you who like the ramones just because they were first in punk rock. there's nothing punk in "hey ho, let's go" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.27.126.108 (talk) 15:05, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

     American Idiot is punk. Have you listened to any of 
     the lyrics? This is what punk is all about.Duh.
     Maybe not as punk, but still punk.

This article is completely written in favor of the album. Where are the ratings? Also, in the reception section I see nothing but praise, even critics that slammed the album are represented in a positive way. This is garbage, some parts need complete rewrites, especially reception. 67.236.85.90 (talk) 20:15, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to fix any issues yourself. Wikipedia does not employ people to edit, we are volunteers - if you demand us to do something, chances are we will not be interested. kiac. (talk-contrib) 01:25, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'd rather not, as I don't care about the album enough to rewrite it's Wiki entry. I was just making it known that this article is very biased. 67.236.85.90 (talk) 14:08, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm more perplexed why a quick synopsis of the album reviews, as seen on other album pages is not present. I think it would be worthwhile bringing them back. Yanksox (talk) 22:40, 1 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You might want to see WT:ALBUM. A change looks to be on its way. kiac. (talk-contrib) 02:03, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Does this album require a mention? Does it also merit it's own article upon its release? It's going to be released on April 19, 2010. Cheers, Rock drum (talk·contribs·guestbook) 11:45, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Whatsername" is not 6:44, it's 4:14, i'm changing it. --Chickenguy13 (talk) 02:30, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The length was per Allmusic, though I note that Amazon lists it at 4:17 and iTunes at 4:12. Sources are inconsistent (my own mp3 file shows up as 4:12). --IllaZilla (talk) 03:26, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, and my CD says 4:14. --Chickenguy13 (talk) 09:10, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A difference of a couple seconds can usually be attributed to a difference in format (CD vs. MP3 vs. vinyl) or player (different CD players sometimes have slightly different read speeds or may judge the length slightly differently). I usually sum this up as "your mileage may vary", but yeah none of these are even close to 6:44. I have no idea where Allmusic got that from. --IllaZilla (talk) 14:15, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh okay, i did not know that some players can read song lengths differently, yeah i have no idea where Allmusic got that. --Chickenguy13 (talk) 09:00, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

holiday and boulevard of broken dreams are the same songs. They are paired together. So are Are We Waiting and St Jimmy. Also Give me Novacaine and She is a Rebel. Please fix it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.92.148.221 (talk) 22:26, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Heh.—indopug (talk) 05:57, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's not how a tracklist works. Even though these songs flow into each other seamlessly on playthrough, there are track separators between them. They are listed as separate tracks on the album sleeve, third-party sources like allmusic, and retailers like itunes. --IllaZilla (talk) 19:22, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Also, Extraordinary Girl and Letterbomb are "paired songs", but that's not how it lists them, that's how it lists them if you download itfrom Rhapsody. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.109.27.250 (talk) 18:53, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I keep adding a section for the b-sides and out-takes for the album. Why do people keep deleting it? It seems to be fine that other albums have a section like this, but not American Idiot or 21st Century Breakdown (as 21st Century Breakdown is protected). Why do people keep removing the b-sides? --75.109.27.250 (talk) 17:43, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Songs that are not on an album are not pertinent to the album. If the prose sections cover how many tracks were recorded, & that some were left off during the track selection process, that might be an appropriate place to mention any B-sides that were later released. But they would have to be referenced and placed in proper context. Adding a tracklisted section of "B-sides" isn't appropriate, as they are (almost by definition) not part of the album. --IllaZilla (talk) 22:58, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Does the song Whatsername deserve its own article? It doesn't have a single, but the music video was leaked. Most people say it's fan-made, but the girl in it is the same girl that was in the Jesus of Suburbia music video. I see no reason why it shouldn't have it's own article. Prosthetic Head was released as a promotional single in Germany only and it has its own article. --24.255.37.229 (talk) 12:04, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]