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: Note: in most (all?) of these, there have been no significant edits after the move, so they could be moved by an admin who would delete destination article and then properly move source article. But it would be good that this is done quickly, before people start editing the articles. [[User:Nikola Smolenski|Nikola]] 08:36, 8 December 2005 (UTC) |
: Note: in most (all?) of these, there have been no significant edits after the move, so they could be moved by an admin who would delete destination article and then properly move source article. But it would be good that this is done quickly, before people start editing the articles. [[User:Nikola Smolenski|Nikola]] 08:36, 8 December 2005 (UTC) |
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::All done. If there was one or two edits beyond the initial move, i just copied everything over to the old page, deleted the new one, and moved the old one. -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] | [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 09:39, 12 December 2005 (UTC) |
::All done. If there was one or two edits beyond the initial move, i just copied everything over to the old page, deleted the new one, and moved the old one. -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] | [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 09:39, 12 December 2005 (UTC) |
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===[[Bteghrine]] and [[Bteghrine, lebanon]]=== |
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I had started the article for [[Bteghrine, Lebanon]] under the name [[Bteghrine]], but (being a Wiki-newbie) I then tried to cut and paste it to [[Bteghrine, lebanon]] and force [[Bteghrine]] to redirect to it (which obviously failed). Ideally, the article currently housed at [[Bteghrine]] be moved to [[Bteghrine, Lebanon]] and [[Bteghrine]] should redirect to [[Bteghrine, Lebanon]] (note the capital L in Lebanon - this is different than the lowercase lebanon which I initially, mistakenly tried to cut and paste to). I believe my account is too new to do this move myself, so any help would be greatly appreciated so that I may continue my article. |
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==Requests which cannot be fulfilled== |
==Requests which cannot be fulfilled== |
Revision as of 06:08, 13 December 2005
This page was originally for listing cut and paste moves which could not be repaired due to a then-extant technical limitation. The limitation has since been removed, but this page is still available if you find a cut-and-paste move, and are not able to repair it yourself. (There is a procedure for doing it, but 1. only admins can do it, and 2. it's a bit tricky.)
Currently the only technical limitation is that image description pages can't be moved.
List of cut-and-paste moves to be undone
New entries at the bottom, please.
Marshal Artur da Costa e Silva, Artur da Costa e Silva - History begins on the second, moves to the first, then moves back to the second (with some confusion which created a loop of redirects in the middle, just to make things interesting). Jnc 14:12, 13 Mar 2005
- I don't see that the page histories need to be merged anyway. There's no reason not to keep the redirect from Marshal Artur da Costa e Silva. It might make sense to swap the two articles (although keeping the Marshal version as a redirect), which is still possible despite the deletion bug. dbenbenn | talk 22:43, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- As far as I know, the Wikipedia style is to leave titles out of article names, so it's Ronald Reagan, not President Ronald Reagan, and George Marshall, not General George Marshall or Secretary George Marshall. I looked all over to see if this was written down, starting at Wikipedia:Naming conventions, but no luck; I've posted a query at the talk page, to get this clarified. Anway, I'm going to move them back to the unadorned names, since that seems (see above) to be our policy. Noel (talk) 18:13, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Oh, I see, after you swapped the histories, you also turned the old redirect into the article, and vice versa. It wasn't plain to me that you were going to do that. Anyway, I still plan to re-unite the histories; it's always best to keep it all together, rather than bifurcated. Noel (talk) 18:15, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Sorry I didn't make that clear. Why merge the histories? Various edits were made to two different pages at various times. Merging the histories will lose that information, and make it look retroactively as though the mistake never happened. That is, the bifurcation did occur, and I don't think we should cover up that fact. dbenbenn | talk 19:05, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Because there wasn't in fact a "bifurcation" (i.e. two different pagess live with contents at the same time, with edits happening to each). The live page was at one name, people did some edits there, then it was moved to another name with a cut-n-paste, people did some edits there, etc. So there are no "conflicting" edits. It's only if you put the histories back together (leaving out the versions which were redirects) that you see the actual real history, can do diffs between pre/post-move versions, etc. Noel (talk) 13:02, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Oh, I see, after you swapped the histories, you also turned the old redirect into the article, and vice versa. It wasn't plain to me that you were going to do that. Anyway, I still plan to re-unite the histories; it's always best to keep it all together, rather than bifurcated. Noel (talk) 18:15, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
(Unindenting)
I'm sorry to be a pain in the ass about this, but I still don't agree that the two histories should be completely merged. Here's what I see happened:
- At (currently) the Marshal version, the page was created at 14:25, 31 Aug 2004.
- One minute later, the same anon added "See also: List of Presidents of Brazil", and then copied the content to the non-Marshal version.
- 7 minutes later, the Marshal version was made a redirect. There were no more "article edits" done there.
- On March 12, the redirect was nominated for deletion. At 16:31, User:Philthecow reverted to the first version, then at 16:47 reverted to the second version.
- On March 13, you (Jnc) copied the content from the other page.
- On March 14, I swapped the two pages.
So, I would support putting the first version of the Marshal version at the non-Marshal version. But that was the only real edit. All the other edits to the article occurred at the non-Marshal version.
- We seem to have been having a heated agreement! It was always my intention that, when done, the history of the article page (which would be at the non-Marshal name) contain only versions which contain article content (i.e. no redirects), but I wanted it to have all such versions, from both histories. (Q.v. my comment above about "leaving out the versions which were redirects".) This seems to be exactly what you support! Sigh, massive mis-communication! Noel (talk) 14:42, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Marshal Humberto de Alencar Castelo Branco, Humberto de Alencar Castelo Branco - Same situation as previous one. Jnc 20:05, 13 Mar 2005
- Same thing here. In fact, I think I will swap these two, since Humberto de Alencar Castelo Branco doesn't have any meaningful history. dbenbenn | talk 22:45, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Ditto. Noel (talk) 18:13, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
The text of the former page was cut and pasted to the latter, new page. FCC is now a redirect, no-one has complained about it. So the history of FCC should be moved to a new location. -Hapsiainen 16:35, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
- Fixed. Thanks! JesseW, the juggling janitor 01:13, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
An anonymous visitor cut and pasted the text from Alternaporn to Altporn, and made Alternaporn a redirect. After that Altporn has been further edited. According to Google Altporn is more common word, so I understand the edit. But I also understand that we need admin help to merge the page histories. -Hapsiainen 21:49, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
- Fixed. Thanks! JesseW, the juggling janitor 01:13, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
An anon made Andris Biedrins[1] into a redirect to Andris Biedriņš[2]. This should be fixed. However, there's a bit controversy, because Andris Biedriņš is how it is spelt in his mothertongue, while Andris Biedrins is the spelling by which he is known in North America. My subjective point of view is that after the undo of this cut-and-paste-move the article should anyway be moved to Andris Biedriņš. --Jūzeris | Talk 21:08, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
Non-minor history begins on Anil Prasad, Music Journalist, Editor of Innerviews, Contributor to Guitar Player. Frets and Bass Player up to and including the 02:39, 21 October 2005 edit by Mysidia, at which point it was cut-and-paste-moved to Anil Prasad, where history continues. Mover tried to afd the original title afterwards. —Cryptic (talk) 16:41, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
There were some real moves mixed in with the cut-and-paste here, but currently the history starts at Urusei Yatsura Movie(Beautiful Dreamer) and continues on Urusei Yatsura Movie (Beautiful Dreamer) (note spacing). Probably it should go back to Urusei Yatsura: Beautiful Dreamer, as according to the first move (visible in Urusei Yatsura Movie (Beautiful Dreamer)'s history) that was the official translated name, but I'll be happy if the history's just all in the same place. —Cryptic (talk) 16:41, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
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An anon[3] has done cut&paste moves of at least three articles that need to be cleaned up: Eagle (automobile), Plymouth (automobile), and Geo (Chevrolet). 24.17.48.241 17:40, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
Originally at IBM Model M Keyboard, cut and paste moved to Model M Keyboard (without consensus reached, I might add, though in fairness it was a good idea). The former page was simply turned into a redirect. --BorgHunter (talk) 04:31, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
Originally at User talk:Blackcap, I moved my userpage back when I didn't know what I was doing so well and accidentally took my talk page with it, and cut-and-pasted it back. It's not a big deal, but it'd be nice if the history could go back to where it should be, at User talk:Blackcap. Blackcap (talk) 23:06, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
Originally at Blue (album). An anon seems to have moved it to the new location, which is fair enough. Anyway, there are subsequent edits at the new location. Could this be fixed please? Maccoinnich 14:49, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
- I moved it back to Joni Mitchell (album) using a cut and paste. The edits done after the first cut and paste move were all minor. I am not an admin, so I was not able to move those edits, but it seems to be a very minor loss. I hope this is OK. -- Samuel Wantman 08:08, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
- Moved it again with the edit history (using the page move) to Blue (Joni Mitchell album) in line with naming guidelines. Edited Joni Mitchell (album) to be a disambiguation page and fixed redirects. -- Samuel Wantman 09:03, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
The page for John Williams (a.k.a. "Hot Rod") was subject to an anonymous copy & paste move (back) to John "Hot Rod" Williams. Both pages have been subsequently edited, John Williams (basketball) having been turned into a singular disambiguation page (see CSD A9) between "Hot Rod" and a (yet undocumented) second basketball player also named John (Sam?) Williams. ~~~~ 18:41, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
The first edit summary on this article states "Combined 16 bio stubs into one"" G Clark 01:46, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
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In the following, please could you merge the page histories, so the full page history appears at the second page.(The first page in each case redirects to the second).
Obrenović → House of Obrenović
Nemanjić → House of Nemanjić
Karađorđević → House of Karađorđević
Sava II Petrovic Njegos → Sava II Petrović Njegoš
Petar Petrović Njegoš → Petar II Petrović Njegoš
Danilo I → Danilo Petrović Njegoš
Lovćen → Mount Lovćen
Pavle → Patriarch Pavle
Holy Serbs → Serbian Saints
Yes I know I buggered it up by not using the move button. I won't do it again, that's for sure. Thanks for helping :) --estavisti 23:23, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
- Note: in most (all?) of these, there have been no significant edits after the move, so they could be moved by an admin who would delete destination article and then properly move source article. But it would be good that this is done quickly, before people start editing the articles. Nikola 08:36, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
- All done. If there was one or two edits beyond the initial move, i just copied everything over to the old page, deleted the new one, and moved the old one. -- Chris 73 | Talk 09:39, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
I had started the article for Bteghrine, Lebanon under the name Bteghrine, but (being a Wiki-newbie) I then tried to cut and paste it to Bteghrine, lebanon and force Bteghrine to redirect to it (which obviously failed). Ideally, the article currently housed at Bteghrine be moved to Bteghrine, Lebanon and Bteghrine should redirect to Bteghrine, Lebanon (note the capital L in Lebanon - this is different than the lowercase lebanon which I initially, mistakenly tried to cut and paste to). I believe my account is too new to do this move myself, so any help would be greatly appreciated so that I may continue my article.
Thank you.
Requests which cannot be fulfilled
- Image:MoneyJews.jpg → Image:Der Giftpilz - Gott des Juden - Nazi propaganda.jpg
- Okay, here's one that has to wait until MediaWiki gets the ability to move image description pages when there's no associated image. There's no image at Image:MoneyJews.jpg, but the image description history needs to be moved to Image:Der Giftpilz - Gott des Juden - Nazi propaganda.jpg. dbenbenn | talk 16:32, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Grupe za pritisak → Special interest
- Requested by Theo. Page-compression makes it impossible for me to do it at the moment. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 13:55, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Umm, not suitable for a history merge. Grupe za pritisak was started at 22:22, 27 January 2005, and merged into Special interest on 19:48, 20 April 2005. Special interest was started long before on 20:14, 4 January 2003. So, there's no cut-and-paste move to repair, it's a straight merge. A history merge would result in the versions of the two separate articles being intermingled in the history for the period 27/January-20/April, with no sign of which version belonge to which article. I would suggest instead archiving the Grupe za pritisak article (restored to the last version with content) at Talk:Special interest/Other, and putting Talk:Grupe za pritisak, which contains the translation at Talk:Special interest/Translation, and putting pointers to both at the head of Talk:Special interest. The resultant redirects at Grupe za pritisak and Talk:Grupe za pritisak should be RfD'd (or simply deleted). Noel (talk) 17:31, 28 September 2005 (UTC)