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Good work. Nice to see such great pages here. --Bhadani (talk) 18:34, 28 June 2008 (UTC) should the Quebec language law and the issues francophones historically had in Canada here? Tydoni (talk) 04:40, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Written language only" is viable option for deaf or HoH who cannot or do not want to sign or read lips. I am legally deaf (severe hyperacusis). Officials coming to my residence ignored door sign requesting written language only. I cannot understand otherwise. I insist that officials coming on official business use written language not oral language. The defense attorney tried to force us to have an "oral" argument and I objected. The judge ruled that in order for us to be on "equal footing" we would have 100% written language, because I indicated that is a primary language pursuant to 42 USC §12182(b) (2) (A) (iii). The US Department of Justice has litigated this issue in the context of ASL and native languages, not written languages. See language litigation for my work on this topic. -- Abby Jo Ovitsky --98.246.178.146 (talk) 04:36, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It is totally false that Basque, Catalan and Galician were prohibited in Spain under Franco. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.158.129.9 (talk) 22:29, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a source link? DGranados0809 (talk) 00:41, 6 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There is a heavy focus on the linguistic discrimination against users of spoken languages, while the linguistic discrimination against d/Deaf and Hard of Hearing people who use sign languages seems to be underrepresented. The belief that spoken languages are superior to sign languages has dominated society for years, resulting in the isolation and language deprivation of numerous d/Deaf and Hard of Hearing individuals. For years, doctors discouraged parents from allowing their deaf kids to learn American Sign Language. Schools for the Deaf, in addition, banned the use of American Sign Language in favor of oralism. Forced to speak and read lips at home and at school, young d/Deaf and Hard of Hearing children faced communication barriers, unable to fully understand others and unable to fully express themselves. American Sign Language was not recognized as a true, complete language until the 1960's, and today, there is still debate among high schools and colleges as to whether it should count for foreign language credit. The effects of linguistic discrimination on the education and livelihood of d/Deaf and Hard of Hearing people should be sufficiently explained. --Cykresge (talk) 19:57, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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I am interested in editing this article as part of a class I'm taking on poverty, justice and human capabilities. I have noticed that there is significantly more discussion about Canadian, American and European examples of linguistic discrimination, and so am thinking about expanding on the examples of linguistic discrimination in non-western countries, including previously colonized countries such as Nigeria, and linguistically diverse countries such as India. Please let me know what you think! Emmaaa00 (talk) 07:30, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be working on editing this article as part of a class I'm taking on poverty, justice and human capabilities. As mentioned above, I have noticed that there is significantly more discussion about Canadian, American and European examples of linguistic discrimination, and so am thinking about exploring examples of linguistic discrimination in non-western countries. More specifically, I'm interested in the relationship between colonization and linguistic discrimination, and am hoping to explore the impacts of these factors on class, education and governance in "post-colonial" societies. I've posted on a more detailed proposal on my talk page. Please let me know what you think! Emmaaa00 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:16, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm currently working on adding a new section on the impacts of colonization on linguistic discrimination throughout the world, and have a draft of a possible section in my Sandbox. Let me know what you think! —Preceding undated comment added 02:53, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi Emma! I was really impressed by how comprehensive and well-written your contributions were. Your expansion of non-Western examples of linguistic discrimination greatly enhanced the article's coverage of the subject. The contributions that demonstrated its relationship with colonialism was also thorough and helpful to better understand the subject. I think one way to improve the article would be to rely less on using direct quotations from the sources you cited. These can improve the readability of the article by replacing quotations with more direct summary. I also think if you wanted, you could shorten some of the titles of your sections and subsections. Your current titles provide a lot of specificity, which is helpful. However, they are also quite long, which also distorts the flow of the article a bit. Adding some more images can also enhance the article, especially for visual learners. Overall, great job on the article! Amymu123 (talk) 04:32, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why are my edits rolled back? I at least leave links. There were simply unfounded accusations from the category of "evil Russian fascists infringing on oppressed national minorities." In Russia there are national republics in which all national minorities have privileges and even dominate the Russians in these republics. Russians in Ukraine cannot even dream of such a thing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Александр Ашкаров (talk • contribs) 06:06, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Александр Ашкаров, I have no opinion on whether your version, or 74.101.190.2's version is better, but for the time being, I've restored the original sourced content until IP 74 joins the discussion, and consensus can be determined. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 08:48, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The original page version did not have their edit. Please revert back to the original version of the page until consensus is reached about the content recently added. 74.101.190.2 (talk) 14:26, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You had deleted content unexplained and added content from RIA news, a Russian State-Funded news source that seems questionable if it is wikipedia RS. I would question the BBC too if it was the lone source. On 19 June 2018, the Russian State Duma adopted a bill that made education in all languages but Russian optional, overruling previous laws by ethnic autonomies, and reducing instruction in minority languages to only two hours a week.^[1][2] This bill has been connected by some commentators, such as in Foreign Affairs to a policy of Russification.^[1] Claiming it is a conspiracy to deem Russian as fascists is a poor argument. Accusations are towards the government. 74.101.190.2 (talk) 12:41, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's funny that you accused RIA news of being sponsored by the state, although you left a link to Deutsche Welle, which is also openly sponsored by the state. You also left a link to Foreign Affairs, which belongs to the Council on Foreign Relations, which in turn actively cooperates with the US government. I can go on ad infinitum, but I think you get the point. The fact that languages ​​of national minorities are no longer mandatory does not mean that their study is prohibited. Previously, in the schools of national republics, all children (including Russians) had to learn the languages ​​of national minorities. This is not discrimination in your opinion? Of course, I understand that it is difficult for a Westerner to understand this, but the USSR and the Russian Federation are essentially anti-empires, which, at the expense of the resources of their largest people (Russians), provide national minorities with all kinds of benefits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Александр Ашкаров (talk • contribs) 15:48, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deuth Wells is heavily regulated to prevent Government influences and Foreign Affairs is not state owned. Just being Western media is not automatically bad just like just being Russian medi ais not automatically bad. State sponsored does need further looking into. funny that you ignore me acknowledging state sponsored sources but not my point that having just one source is problematic. The are multiple different sources from different parts of the world discussing the issue for minority languages. If there were more than one source for your addition it would seem more solid. Do you have some additional sources you can add? The more diverse the better. I will try to help you look into Russian language treatment in Ukraine any any articles that can better support it. But don’t just delete things without even saying in the edits otherwise it comes across as bad intent. As was the issue in other articles where you had deleted sourced content. 74.101.190.2 (talk) 16:50, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

74.101.190.2, If I missed the previous state of the article wrt this dispute, I will undo my revert. Can you please provide me a diff link to the point you believe applies? Please keep discussing the content dispute in the meawhile, and/or try to interest other editors to join in; as I noted previously, I only wish to avoid edit warring and promote consensus; I don't wish to take sides here. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 21:04, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]