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Hi I undid your deletion becouse of the following causes (this is a test to initiate my first talk)

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Former good article nomineeGastritis was a Natural sciences good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
December 1, 2008Peer reviewReviewed
January 20, 2009Good article nomineeNot listed
Current status: Former good article nominee


Copyrighted

Please stop adding that copyrighted block of text (already linked to in external link) to the article. I have given you multiple pointers to relevant pages like Wikipedia:Copyrights and Wikipedia:Manual of Style. Articles with copyright violation text are regularly deleted from Wikipedia. Users who continue to post copyright violation material after warnings may be blocked from editing. -- Infrogmation 23:17, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC) I was diagnosed with Gastritis. While in the hospital a tube was put down my nose into my stomach where blood was present. An endoscopy was done the next day and although there was no blood in the asophogus I was told this was the reason for the blood and vomiting.this does not sound right to me.any info. that someone could give me would be appreciated.----

gastric mucus gel layer and gastritis

Has anyone come across evidence that colonization by a microorganism in the mucus gel layer of the stomach induces infiltration of immune cells in the mucus gel? I've seen reports on the in vivo distribution of H. felis in the mucus gel of mice and that it induces mild gastritis, but it is unclear in the document where these immune cells are. Gludwiczak 21:48, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I add link for granulomatous gastritis since this article havent been written on wikipedia Kuplukjaya (talk) 07:01, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Student Input

Potential References [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] [23] [24] [25] [26] [27] [28] [29] [30] [31] [32] [33] [34] [35] [36] [37] [38] [39] [40]

Sorry about the late references...I didn't think the references where due until next Monday.--Llamoedu (talk) 01:33, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Graded --JimmyButler (talk) 21:22, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]


I don't mind if other people edit this page, but if you do, PLEASE CITE IT.

Also, I have put this article up for peer review, so if you would like to review the article, I encourage you to do so. Thanks!--Llamoedu (talk) 23:27, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Classification and a review

The article breaks down gastritis into erosive vs non erosive. The issue is much more complicated than this. "CLASSIFICATION OF GASTRITIS AND GASTROPATHY — Several classifications of gastritis and gastropathy (such as the Sydney system) [5] have been proposed [5-10]. However, classification remains controversial because of gaps in knowledge of etiology and pathogenesis, variation in nomenclature, and the coexistence of more than one type of gastritis or gastropathy in individual patients. Thus, comparisons across studies using different nomenclature can be difficult. Most classification systems distinguish acute, short-term from chronic, long-term disease. The terms acute and chronic are also used to describe the type of inflammatory cell infiltrate. Acute inflammation is usually associated with neutrophilic infiltration, while chronic inflammation is usually characterized by mononuclear cells, chiefly lymphocytes, plasma cells, and macrophages. A practical clinicopathologic framework for the classification of gastritis and gastropathy based upon these factors can be proposed (show table 1) [8]."http://www.uptodate.com/online/content/topic.do?topicKey=acidpep/7980&selectedTitle=2~150&source=search_result

It then adds H. Pylori to the non erosive category. The ref however says "H. pylori bacteria grow in the protective mucus layer of the stomach lining, where they are less exposed to the highly acidic juices produced by the stomach. Virtually all people who have H. pylori infection have gastritis, which may affect the entire stomach or only the lower part (antrum). Infection can sometimes lead to erosive gastritis. H. pylori contributes to ulcer formation by increasing acid production, interfering with the normal defenses against stomach acid, and producing toxins."http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec09/ch121/ch121b.html

This page is dealing with a medical disease which mean the data on the topic is huge. And many of the references should refer to peer reviewed and published academic papers. Pubmed is a great source for abstract and will sometime give you the whole copy free. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez

"Other medicine" in the lead is very vague... Are we talking antibiotics? Are we taking H2 blockers, PPI...

No mention is made about cancer. "Metaplasia is highly relevant to the pathogenesis of atrophic gastritis and to its complications (eg, pernicious anemia, gastric ulcer, and gastric cancer)." --Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 18:41, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tool for formatting references

http://diberri.dyndns.org/cgi-bin/templatefiller/index.cgi?ddb=&type=pubmed_id

Section on history and how this intersects with culture

The little purple pill http://www.purplepill.com/ is one of the most highly advertised drugs in the would.

The term is also often know as heart burn and Acid indigestion and is closely related to GERD.--Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 18:41, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, yes, esomeprazole. How-to-market-a-stereoisomer-and-suggest-it-is-much-better-than-the-racemic-mixture. JFW | T@lk 14:45, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly :-) My main point is that there is history and culture here to discuss.--Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 17:34, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

POV

One needs to write from a neutral POV. When one says "doctors may recommend". This is from the patients POV and should be avoided. One should rather say for example that PPI have been found to help however many people they help, but there are concerns about C. dif for example.--Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 18:41, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sections the article should contain

As per Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(medicine-related_articles)#Diseases.2Fdisorders.2Fsyndromes these are the section the article is currently missing.

  1. Classification
  2. Signs
  3. Pathophysiology or Mechanism
  4. Prevention or Screening
  5. Prognosis
  6. Epidemiology
  7. History (not patient history)
  8. Society and culture (e.g., stigma, economics, religious aspects, awareness, legal issues)

Cheers. --Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 18:48, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

These are the requirements for FA, they can be added as the article is expanded, but they are not part of the GA criteria. Graham Colm Talk 12:19, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Graham, I agree but James' comment does indicate that there are some significant shortcomings to the article. JFW | T@lk 14:43, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I consider that for a topic to be covered broadly, which is a GA criteria, one must touch on all of these to some degree. There is a great deal of good sources available. I have commented on other concerns above.--Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 17:38, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not currently suitable

I would strongly advise against this article being made GA. For one thing, the references are completely unsuitable per WP:MEDRS. Some of the language employed is overly lay-oriented (e.g. the use of "B12 shots" for vitamin B12 injections). Essential topics and terms are not covered, e.g. the concept of melaena is alluded to but the term is not identified. JFW | T@lk 14:42, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

About the reliability of the sources, if someone could tell me which ones, I will try and look for a more reliable source, such as from PubMed or a government site, that restates the information, or even if contradicts it. Thanks!--Llamoedu (talk) 04:03, 29 January 2009 (UTC) 04:02, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, it would be important to discuss whether chronic gastritis predisposes to gastric cancer. JFW | T@lk 14:46, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Agree and as this article still requires significant work I will have to fail at this point in time. --Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 17:40, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Free full-text references

Here are some references, mainly reviews, from PubMed Central. They are free and full text copies can be downloaded.

Graham Colm Talk 17:08, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Citation Help

Could someone tell me how to make one citation used multiple times in an article not look like two or three different citations? I believe I have done this once or twice in my article. I have one citation listed multiple times in my Citations section. Thanks!--Llamoedu (talk) 04:14, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hi, sorry for the delay in replying. This is a good question, it took me ages to discover the trick. It is done like this:
Give the reference a name e.g. <ref name="anyname">
First time (or once in the article), all the details at once <ref name="name"> {{cite journal |author= |title= |journal= |volume= |issue= |pages= |year= |pmid= |doi= }}</ref>
Then just <ref name="name"/> from then on. Graham Colm Talk 16:01, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Improvement needed!

I was using the gastritis page for study (in Medicine), but unfortunately I seriously think this page requires much more detailed information. At the moment, it just doesn't seem to be very useful for a medical student level. Many parts are written very ambiguously, and the "Causes" do not explain each type properly. If I ever find enough free time to rewrite this article, I would, but before then please help improve! Harrison's is always a good reference book to start with.

Ref 13 links to the MSNBC site presumably espousing that a shower can mask the pain but the article doesn't seem to be there 10 months later, so is there a way to find where it's moved? Tyciol (talk) 17:51, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

gastritis

hello this is rake i would like to ask if with gastritis is possible to have childrens and Can i eat young food? Is not dangerous for my stomach? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.237.78.214 (talk) 19:01, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Intro sentence needs some work.

The sentence which introduces this article reads "Gastritis is an inflammation of the lining of the stomach, sike. It doesnt and has many possible causes."

Reads fine up to the word "stomach". Don't understand how the word "sike" fits into the context of this subject, and following with the sentence "it doesn't (which needs an apostrophe BTW) and has many possible causes", comes across as unprofessional and in any case, given the use of the word "sike" in the previous sentence, doesn't make sense anyway.

Something appears to be missing here, i.e., a description as to the possible causes of Gastritis or something that would provide context for the statement "....and has many possible causes". Otherwise I would omit everything after the word "stomach", and then follow that with the sentence that discusses possible causes.

Ronb1224 (talk) 10:43, 15 January 2012 (UTC)Ron[reply]

Coffee as an irritant.

This article states that coffee would be an irritant to people with gastritis but the article does not clarify what elements of coffee would cause the problem. Is it the caffeine that is problematic? Can caffeine be taken in another form (not as coffee)? Please could someone clarify this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 163.195.240.74 (talk) 10:45, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Refs

Our text said "In 2013 there was about 90 million new cases of disease.[1]"

The support is in this table http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4561509/table/T3/

Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 07:44, 30 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Global Burden of Disease Study 2013, Collaborators (22 August 2015). "Global, regional, and national incidence, prevalence, and years lived with disability for 301 acute and chronic diseases and injuries in 188 countries, 1990-2013: a systematic analysis for the Global Burden of Disease Study 2013". Lancet (London, England). 386 (9995): 743–800. PMID 26063472. {{cite journal}}: |first1= has generic name (help)CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link)

this seems like a logical addition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.255.32.192 (talk) 05:38, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Community

I deleted the new section Gastritis#Community because Wikipedia is not a directory of links to other places on the web that are, to varying degrees, somehow related to the topic of an article. Editor Walidou47 reverted me with the edit summary Why can't it be a directory ?

It is not the purpose of the encyclopedia to recommend or endorse, in Wikipedia's own voice, any external site. Because it exists, this, or any, 'community' section bestows credibility on a particular social media site which Wikipedia is not qualified to do.

The section should be deleted.

Trappist the monk (talk) 18:26, 22 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi I undid your deletion becouse of the following causes (this is a test to initiate my first talk)