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Be Bold!

Sam [] 01:49, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Outstanding Contributions Recognition

GoldenRing, I've followed your Rfa and subsequently have had a chance to see your contributions across Wikipedia. What I've noticed is a person who is passionately dedicated to Wikipedia and is amongst the most intelligent ones I've come across here. I applaud the absolute honesty you've shown in your Rfa while offering to contribute as an administrator. They may not be necessarily as many as of other prolific editors, but in my opinion, your contributions are exemplary. And in that spirit, you truly are an outstanding contributor. Keep up the great work! :) Lourdes

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Hi GoldenRing. Is there a reason why Joefromrandb's entry is at WP:DSLOG/2018? I looked through the logs until 2014 and no other editor's Arbcom case has been singled out in this way. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 10:40, 24 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Bump. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 15:56, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@NeilN: Thanks for the reminder. I think this might have changed fairly recently. I was following the instructions in the "Enforcement log" section of the case page. I'll ask the question on the clerks' mailing list. GoldenRing (talk) 09:04, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Following discussion with the arbs, I have removed it. GoldenRing (talk) 10:57, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 15:30, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry if I'm annoying you, but I would really appreciate a response to what I posted here. I probably should have posted these e-mails sometime yesterday, and I hope it isn't too late for you and other admins to take their contents into account when deciding how I should be sanctioned. --Captain Occam (talk) 12:59, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Over at AE, you mentioned the recent amendment to the DS procedures that DS like 1/0RR need to be in the edit notice. That's something new to me (though welcome in some fashions), so I was wondering if you had a link handy to that decision? Thanks. Kingofaces43 (talk) 18:51, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Kingofaces43: It was enacted at Special:Permalink/820600857#Discretionary_Sanctions:_Motion and codified at Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Discretionary_sanctions#Page_restrictions. Best, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 04:35, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Kingofaces43: Do note though that it only applies to page restrictions imposed by admins under DS, not to remedies like the ARBPIA 1RR restriction that come directly from the committee. GoldenRing (talk) 08:25, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks all. That's partly what I was curious about too. Kingofaces43 (talk) 15:41, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wishing GoldenRing a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Chris Troutman (talk) 19:37, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You are involved in a recently-filed request for clarification or amendment from the Arbitration Committee. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment#Anythingyouwant and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the Wikipedia:Arbitration guide may be of use.

Thanks, Anythingyouwant (talk) 23:14, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

And circling the wagons to defend a sub-standard action taken in defence of the poorly written 'law' doesn't help clarify or improve anything. It's a ridiculously counter-productive decision that will only appease the IB warriors, stalkers and trolls. – SchroCat (talk) 22:02, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@SchroCat: You may well be right, but trying to reopen a discussion on the AE board is only ever going to cause more heat than light as closing them is itself an AE; undoing it is therefore sanctionable. I agree there's ambiguity in the wording of the remedy and I've requested clarification from the committee at ARCA. Let's see what they say. GoldenRing (talk) 22:25, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, GoldenRing, greetings:) I hope you didn't mind my refactoring of your post at AE, for easier accessibility at hand-held devices.Best,~ Winged Blades^Godric 13:50, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Winged Blades of Godric: Not at all, thanks. I'll admit I never use mobile view - even when I'm using a mobile device I use desktop mode - so I'm less aware of the accessibility issues. GoldenRing (talk) 14:57, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to know that:) It' s too difficult and cumbersome to smoothly maneuver the desktop-site, with a flurry of scripts and all, in small screens.Best,~ Winged Blades^Godric 18:36, 6 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Me neither. But for what it's worth, at the very bottom of each editing page is Privacy policy About Wikipedia Disclaimers Contact Wikipedia etc., and then Mobile view, which allows a preview as it is seen by others. Particularly helpful for placing images, etc., even when working on desktop. Happy holidays, —SerialNumber54129 ^{paranoia /cheap shit room} 18:53, 6 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Arbitration Committee is considering a motion in response to the ARCA requested you submitted. For the Arbitration Committee, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 17:16, 6 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Arbitration Committee has resolved by motion that:

Remedy 1.1 of the Civility in infobox discussions case is amended to replace dot point 3: *making more than one comment in discussing the inclusion or exclusion of an infobox on a given article. with the following: * making more than one comment in a discussion, where that discussion is primarily about the inclusion or exclusion of an infobox on a given article.

For the Arbitration Committee, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 17:54, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Discuss this at: Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard#Civility in infobox discussions: Motion

Hello GoldenRing, I’m following up with you because you previously showed an interest in the Interaction Timeline. The Anti-Harassment Tools team has completed V1.1 and the tool is ready for use. The Interaction Timeline shows a chronologic history for two users on pages where they have both made edits.

The purpose of the tool is to better understand the sequence of edits between two users in order to make a decision about the best way to resolve a user conduct dispute. Here are some test cases that show the results and also some known limitations of the tool. We would like to hear your experience using the tool in real cases. You can leave public feedback on talk page or contact us by email if the case needs discretion or you would prefer to comment privately. SPoore (WMF), Trust & Safety, Community health initiative (talk) 15:55, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi GoldenRing. Would you happen to have the time to continue the conversation we had at the end of this section on my talk page? No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 20:13, 11 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I read up the appeal process. Is this a step by step process or do I choose whichever method from the three? JosephusOfJerusalem (talk) 10:00, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@JosephusOfJerusalem: It is not a step by step process. You can select any of the three you want. I would encourage you to go WP:ARCA since WP:ARE has been already seen by enough admins. Capitals00 (talk) 10:04, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@JosephusOfJerusalem: You may appeal at whichever venue you think most appropriate. But once you've appealed at AE or AN, you can't appeal here. And appeals to ARCA are final; you can't then appeal to AE or AN. I will tell you for free that unless you have something distinctly different to what you presented at AE, any appeal here will be wasting your time. I would also advise that, given the general agreement of administrators at AE, your chances of success at the other venues are not high, though of course you are free to pursue them. GoldenRing (talk) 10:08, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@GoldenRing: Okay. So if I select option 1, will it be conducted on this TP or is there another method available such as email? JosephusOfJerusalem (talk) 10:13, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@JosephusOfJerusalem: You are welcome to email me if you prefer, or to request reconsideration here. GoldenRing (talk) 10:16, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. Will do. JosephusOfJerusalem (talk) 10:17, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hy. I am indeed surprised that you gauged everyone with the same tool and T-Banned everyone, including me who didn't even see/participate at the AE. Following comes to my mind: "if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail". Thanks—TripWire^{________ʞlɐʇ} 15:42, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 20:58, 17 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@GoldenRing: Did you get a chance to ponder over the email I sent? Please let me know if you already had made your decision so that I can go to the next step in the process but I am willing to wait if you just need more time to go over the email as I understand it was quite lengthy. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 16:54, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps fix a user name in your last statement ;) - I do minor formatting but not change that much. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:04, 18 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt: I'm sure I'm being massively slow on the uptake, but could you please spell this out for me a bit more? GoldenRing (talk) 06:26, 19 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It was here, but probably not worth fixing now that it's collapsed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:33, 19 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification_and_Amendment#Amendment_request:_India-Pakistan regarding the ARE decision that affected you. — MapSGV (talk) 20:13, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

		The Administrator's Barnstar
		Whatever the result of the present review at ARCA, your proposed solution to the disruptive environment in ARBIPA topics was a thoughtful and reasonable approach. Wikipedia would benefit enormously from more administrators like yourself who can come up with creative solutions to complex problems, and fewer like me who would just ban everybody. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:05, 25 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi GoldenRing. This editor was indefinitely banned from all edits related to the Balkans [1]. However they continued to edit such articles and per this they were warned by an admin [2]. Now they repeated their topic ban violation [3], [4]. The second edit is made on an article that is considered a battleground due to political situation in the Balkans. I was advised to notify you on this case [5]. Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:58, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There's been a motion proposed at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification_and_Amendment#India-Pakistan:_Motion. Best, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 02:10, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[6]. To paraphrase Dlohcierekim, the editor seems fixated on certain aspects of the situation and can't let go. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 20:54, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oh. My. God.-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 21:06, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sigh. I hope she's okay. GoldenRing (talk) 21:31, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Me too. But straight up implying that a fellow editor will physically attack you is not acceptable. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 21:53, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The India-Pakistan arbitration amendment request filed on 23 May 2018 (the appeal of certain arbitration enforcement actions by GoldenRing) has been closed as unsuccessful. For the Arbitration Committee, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 02:05, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi GoldenRing,

The Anti-Harassment Tools team built the Interaction Timeline to make it easier to understand how two people interact and converse across multiple pages on a wiki. The tool shows a chronological list of edits made by two users, only on pages where they have both made edits within the provided time range. Our goals are to assist users to make well informed decisions in incidents of user misconduct and to keep on-wiki discussions civil and focused on evidence.

We're looking to add a feature to the Interaction Timeline that makes it easy to post statistics and information to an on-wiki discussion about user misconduct. We're discussing possible wikitext output on the project talk page, and we invite you to participate! Thank you, For the Anti-Harassment Tools team, SPoore (WMF), Trust & Safety, Community health initiative (talk) 22:31, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(pinging User:Sandstein too) Just want to help by sharing my diff here since removed by NeilN for being longer than text limit in which you can take a glance on his prior ANI records from there. Lycka till. JantheHansen (talk) 13:48, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I got a notification that you sent me an email, but it hasn't arrived in either my inbox or my spam folder. Please could you try sending it to thryduulf.wikigmail.com. Thryduulf (talk) 13:10, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You closed the AE appeal by Netoholic. At that time, I think that Thryduulf was still discussing further sanctions that might perhaps be attached to the decision. Depending on what Thryduulf thinks, it might perhaps be better to reopen the discussion. Thanks. --Tryptofish (talk) 14:48, 20 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Thryduulf: If you want to go further, don't take my closing the appeal as a barrier to further sanctions. GoldenRing (talk) 14:50, 20 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Would you mind logging the decline on this one? I can’t seem to find it on the log. TonyBallioni (talk) 22:05, 20 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have time now to do anything, and can't guarantee I will before Sunday. If anyone wants to do anything more before then please feel free to carry on from where I left off.

GoldenRing - I can't read your email at the moment. Hopefully I will be able to before I get home late Saturday but again can't guarantee it. Thryduulf (talk) 23:56, 20 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@TonyBallioni: Thanks for the reminder - now done. @Thryduulf: - I've not emailed you since the one you responded to on the 19th of June. GoldenRing (talk) 08:34, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oh ok, must have been a duplicate notification then. Thryduulf (talk) 09:07, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Thryduulf: or any other interested administrator: The block is over and the editor has resumed commenting at the pages that were discussed. --Tryptofish (talk) 16:29, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello GoldenRing, I accidentally moved Bengalis in Pakistan to Bengladeshis in Pakistan in Pakistan. I need it to be moved to Bangladeshis in Pakistan as the correct spelling is Bangladeshis, not Bengladeshis. I need an administrator to move it as I can no longer move it. Thank you for your assistance.--NadirAli نادر علی (talk) 20:31, 1 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page watcher) @NadirAli: Done. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 20:39, 1 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Neil!--NadirAli نادر علی (talk) 22:20, 1 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You placed an IBAN on Mathsci's talk, and misspelled the name of the other party. I am worried about Mathsci, who carried the load of work on An Wasserflüssen Babylon and hasn't edited after 6 June. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:09, 3 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I sent back a reply. Sorry about the length. I did not include specific diffs as these do not show up well in email, however, I can provide them on request. More generally, if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

Also see my proposal.Volunteer Marek (talk) 08:12, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]