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Btw, [http://energynumbers.info/germanys-offshore-wind-capacity-factors German capacity factors are here]. [[User:TGCP|TGCP]] ([[User talk:TGCP|talk]]) 14:58, 13 December 2017 (UTC) |
Btw, [http://energynumbers.info/germanys-offshore-wind-capacity-factors German capacity factors are here]. [[User:TGCP|TGCP]] ([[User talk:TGCP|talk]]) 14:58, 13 December 2017 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|TGCP}} Hi, normal table entries are already portable, just copy and paste a row between two "|-". There is no need to make a template that essentially does the same thing. Using templates when not necessary just increases complexity for first-time editors. Also the need to port entries in wind farm tables seems quite limited to me. There are very few lists that duplicate existing entries in other articles (maybe 2 or 3 instances of each farm in different articles?). A more interesting idea is the creation of a single template that creates a list with all the wind farms over a certain capacity or in a certain country, depending on the input argument. Something like <nowiki>{{wind farm list|100|Germany}}</nowiki> that would list all wind farms 100 MW or larger in Germany. This however would be soon possible through Wikidata. --[[User:Ita140188|Ita140188]] ([[User talk:Ita140188#top|talk]]) 02:19, 14 December 2017 (UTC) |
:{{ping|TGCP}} Hi, normal table entries are already portable, just copy and paste a row between two "|-". There is no need to make a template that essentially does the same thing. Using templates when not necessary just increases complexity for first-time editors. Also the need to port entries in wind farm tables seems quite limited to me. There are very few lists that duplicate existing entries in other articles (maybe 2 or 3 instances of each farm in different articles?). A more interesting idea is the creation of a single template that creates a list with all the wind farms over a certain capacity or in a certain country, depending on the input argument. Something like <nowiki>{{wind farm list|100|Germany}}</nowiki> that would list all wind farms 100 MW or larger in Germany. This however would be soon possible through Wikidata. --[[User:Ita140188|Ita140188]] ([[User talk:Ita140188#top|talk]]) 02:19, 14 December 2017 (UTC) |
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::I couldn't find a better discussion than when [[User_talk:Ernestfax#Wind Power in Denmark|Ernestfax and I talked about it here]] - some of the purpose was to copy wind farms from a national list to a regional list, including the flag, there may have been other purposes. But if the only difference is the country/flag then I agree that the template is more complicated to edit than just adding country. Not sure why the template was made that way, but at least it gave a uniform structure across most lists - for several years. I agree that Wikidata is the preferred container for data, giving much more flexibility. [[User:TGCP|TGCP]] ([[User talk:TGCP|talk]]) 11:38, 14 December 2017 (UTC) |
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I am trying to create my Company Profile on wikipedia. All I was trying to do is testing how to create information box. And, I reference the code from wikipedia's page and paste it in my alive case page. And, edit the information to my own information. Please, do not delete this page. Thank you. I'm gonna edit as soon as I can. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alivecase (talk • contribs) 09:22, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
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CapFacs for wind farms
Hi Ita, sorry I had to revert your additions of capfac in List of offshore wind farms in Germany. I tried adding [citation needed] as is customary, but that just broke the table. CapFacs are very notable, and should be added whenever a suitable source can be found. Baltic 1 Offshore Wind Farm contains FLH, but we cannot convert them to CapFac because that would be WP:Original research. An outside source such as this is necessary for that conversion. TGCP (talk) 21:14, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
- @TGCP: I disagree. Full load hours and capacity factor are exactly equivalent terms, with a conversion given by the formula CF=FLH/8760. This is not original research. It's the same as converting meters in feet or dollars in euro. If you feel like my arguments are convincing, please add the numbers back in the table. The reference for both numbers are in the relevant articles. And I think your edit broke the table because you added an open '{{' in the middle ;) . --Ita140188 (talk) 02:19, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
- I agree that the conversion is simple, however it should also be void of interpretation, which is less simple. FLH to CapFac is not common knowledge like meters to feet, and someone might disagree. I thought Wikipedia:No_original_research#Routine_calculations was more strict, but as you and I are seemingly the only ones caring about this, I guess we can call that concensus ;-) So I added them back (I could not find a ref for 55% in AV). If the energy was given in GWh (very similar to FLH), I think that would be too much of a stretch as it involves even more interpretation - netto, brutto, delivered to grid or transformer etc. (the euro/dollar example depends on point in time and circumstances (exchange fee etc.), and is thus open to interpretation).
- I urged user:Ernestfax to make the Template:Wind farm table including the capfac column back in 2010, unfortunately he has not contributed since 2012 - he made all the programming which I could not. TGCP (talk) 16:34, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
- Slightly related: Green energy (particularly wind turbines) is commonly accused of causing high electricity prices in Denmark (and by extension, world wide). Such confusion is widespread, and make it important to distinguish between cost and price. But taxes are the main cause, thus being notable, which is why I included the diagram in Wind_power_in_Denmark#Danish_wind_economics . See also Energy_in_Denmark#Overview and Economy_of_Denmark#Energy. TGCP (talk) 07:40, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
- I see your point. Maybe I was taking it for granted. It may actually be useful to have the wikilinks to underline the concept. --Ita140188 (talk) 07:56, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
- Maybe it can be clarified further? We use those simple words "cost" and "price" so often that we don't consider them to be separate concepts, but they are. This lack of clarity has served wind opponents well for decades. In fairness, another lack of clarity is the amount of wind power that is curtailed due to oversupply, and how wind power subsidy affects the economy of traditional power sources. TGCP (talk) 08:38, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
- I see your point. Maybe I was taking it for granted. It may actually be useful to have the wikilinks to underline the concept. --Ita140188 (talk) 07:56, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
Hi Ita, I don't understand your edit here to change the format and remove the Flag? The original purpose of the template was to make entries easily portable between country lists and regional lists such as List of offshore wind farms in the North Sea.
Btw, German capacity factors are here. TGCP (talk) 14:58, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
- @TGCP: Hi, normal table entries are already portable, just copy and paste a row between two "|-". There is no need to make a template that essentially does the same thing. Using templates when not necessary just increases complexity for first-time editors. Also the need to port entries in wind farm tables seems quite limited to me. There are very few lists that duplicate existing entries in other articles (maybe 2 or 3 instances of each farm in different articles?). A more interesting idea is the creation of a single template that creates a list with all the wind farms over a certain capacity or in a certain country, depending on the input argument. Something like {{wind farm list|100|Germany}} that would list all wind farms 100 MW or larger in Germany. This however would be soon possible through Wikidata. --Ita140188 (talk) 02:19, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
- I couldn't find a better discussion than when Ernestfax and I talked about it here - some of the purpose was to copy wind farms from a national list to a regional list, including the flag, there may have been other purposes. But if the only difference is the country/flag then I agree that the template is more complicated to edit than just adding country. Not sure why the template was made that way, but at least it gave a uniform structure across most lists - for several years. I agree that Wikidata is the preferred container for data, giving much more flexibility. TGCP (talk) 11:38, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
DJ Rodin' Flash
I updated the article for DJ Rodin' Flash so that it fits into the criteria necessary for notability for musicians and ensembles. Is that good enough? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Supernightmare101 (talk • contribs) 17:55, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
- @Supernightmare101: it seems to me that all the references given are self-published and not third party. This does not demonstrate notability. However, the final decision will be taken in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DJ Rodin' Flash. To keep the article, third party verifiable sources will need to be added. --Ita140188 (talk) 18:02, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
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I'm not sure that your recent move of the timeline of Electronic voting from the general category to just United States is a good idea. Perhaps a US specific timeline should be created for an article on electronic voting in the US, but this article needs a timeline for the world. Yes, the first use of e-voting was in the US, but the Netherlands used Nedap DRE voting machines for well over a decade, also Belgium. Later, India and Brazil got into the act. Several other South American countries belong in the timeline, along with Internet voting in Switzerland (Geneva first) and Estonia. The objections of Wijvertrouwenstemcomputersniet (We Don't Trust Voting Computers) in the Netherlands belong in the timeline just as selected anti-DRE work in the US. Douglas W. Jones (talk) 04:06, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
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Sorry about my mistake on solar power in China! The industry really should've standardized on the subscripted form of that unit to avoid confusing dumbasses like me. --diff (talk) 00:57, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Difference engine: no problem ; ) It is quite confusing! --Ita140188 (talk) 05:02, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
Why the erroneous edit war on Nuclear weapon?
On the map, India is yellow and China orange. Someone switched them. I corrected it. You reverted, erroneously. What gives? NPguy (talk) 02:07, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
- @NPguy: on the map I see, China is clearly yellow. I don't know if you are looking at a previous version of this picture, which marks China as orange (check the file history of w:File:Rael Nuclear use locations world map.png). --Ita140188 (talk) 02:12, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
- It's still orange on my screen, but yellow in the source file. Apparently a caching error. Sorry! NPguy (talk) 02:46, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
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You're a veteran at this. I'm a novice. What do we do next? And when? StevenBKrivit (talk) 03:10, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
- @StevenBKrivit: I would go on and make the change in the lead that you proposed in the talk page. It's clear and concise in my opinion. However, we need to find a reference for the second statement about the total electricity consumed since it is not present in the link cited. Alternatively we can leave that statement out. Also I would add a clarification about the fact that ITER is not planned to produce any electricity. --Ita140188 (talk) 03:42, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
- I've done as you suggested. Can you please have a look? When I drop the paragraph into the main article, can I simply do a direct replacement of what is there? Do I need to code the hyperlinks any differently than I have, surrounded by square brackets, in the talk section? Thanks, Steven — Preceding unsigned comment added by StevenBKrivit (talk • contribs) 05:01, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
- @StevenBKrivit: yes, you can just replace the text. Hyperlinks work the same as in the talk page, two square brackets for internal links to Wikipedia pages and one square bracket for external links. Also for external links it's better to use the cite function that you can find in the top of the editing window: there is a menu with different citation templates you can use for news, web, journals etc. But just a link is also ok, others will fix the details. --Ita140188 (talk) 05:54, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
- ok, thank you. I get the part about brackets. I have no idea what "cite function" is but I do understand that others can help clean up errors in my syntax.
- StevenBKrivit (talk) 05:58, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
- @StevenBKrivit: yes, you can just replace the text. Hyperlinks work the same as in the talk page, two square brackets for internal links to Wikipedia pages and one square bracket for external links. Also for external links it's better to use the cite function that you can find in the top of the editing window: there is a menu with different citation templates you can use for news, web, journals etc. But just a link is also ok, others will fix the details. --Ita140188 (talk) 05:54, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
- I've done as you suggested. Can you please have a look? When I drop the paragraph into the main article, can I simply do a direct replacement of what is there? Do I need to code the hyperlinks any differently than I have, surrounded by square brackets, in the talk section? Thanks, Steven — Preceding unsigned comment added by StevenBKrivit (talk • contribs) 05:01, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
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