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[[File:Information orange.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to [[:Lahore]], without giving a valid reason for the removal in the [[Help:Edit summary|edit summary]]. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive. Your concern regarding the use of 'Maratha era' has been addressed - While 'Post-Mughal' violates [[W:NPOV]] and is also factually incorrect (given that the Marathas succeeded the Durranis and not the Mughals), the use of Maratha 'period' is appropriate given that it is too short to be called an 'era'. Also, please discuss change in verified content on the relevant Discussion Page before removing any content. Thank you.<!-- Template:uw-delete2 -->--[[User:PolandHistoryProf|PolandHistoryProf]] ([[User talk:PolandHistoryProf|talk]]) 12:03, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
[[File:Information orange.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to [[:Lahore]], without giving a valid reason for the removal in the [[Help:Edit summary|edit summary]]. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive. Your concern regarding the use of 'Maratha era' has been addressed - While 'Post-Mughal' violates [[W:NPOV]] and is also factually incorrect (given that the Marathas succeeded the Durranis and not the Mughals), the use of Maratha 'period' is appropriate given that it is too short to be called an 'era'. Also, please discuss change in verified content on the relevant Discussion Page before removing any content. Thank you.<!-- Template:uw-delete2 -->--[[User:PolandHistoryProf|PolandHistoryProf]] ([[User talk:PolandHistoryProf|talk]]) 12:03, 1 July 2017 (UTC)


:I didn't removed content based on whether it is sourced or not - I removed a irrelevant block quote. And Post-Mughal is more appropriate given that the article goes from Mughal to Sikh, and the intervening period is Durrani AND Maratha, so I dont know where your POV argument comes into play. In fact, the exaggeration of Maratha importance to Lahore history might instead be better termed as POV than me changing the header to include the reality that in the post mughalperiod, the city was contested by BOTH Marathas and Durranis. Both took advantage of a chaotic post-Mughal power vacuum, hence post-Mughal is the better descriptor, as it addresses the chaotic and anarachic period following Mughal rule during which both the Durranis and Marathas took advantage. That the Narathas came second after Durranis doesn't change this - can add in a sentence about Durranis when I'm at a computer.
:I didn't removed content based on whether it is sourced or not - I removed a irrelevant block quote. And Post-Mughal is more appropriate given that the article goes from Mughal to Sikh, and the intervening period is Durrani AND Maratha, so I dont know where your POV argument comes into play. In fact, the exaggeration of Maratha importance to Lahore history might instead be better termed as POV than me changing the header to include the reality that in the post mughalperiod, the city was contested by BOTH Marathas and Durranis. Both took advantage of a chaotic post-Mughal power vacuum, hence post-Mughal is the better descriptor, as it addresses the chaotic and anarachic period following Mughal rule during which both the Durranis and Marathas took advantage. This anarchic period lasted until Sikh rule. The post-Mughal period had no clear ruler. In fact, Maratha rule was so tenuous that they left behind not even a single monument. That the Narathas came second after Durranis doesn't change this - can add in a sentence about Durranis when I'm at a computer.


:Also, Had I changed it to "Durrani period," then you could have conceuvably accused me of POV since I'm Pashtun like the Durranis. But that's not what I did.
:Also, Had I changed it to "Durrani period," then you could have conceuvably accused me of POV since I'm Pashtun like the Durranis. But that's not what I did.

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Information icon Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Lahore, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive. Your concern regarding the use of 'Maratha era' has been addressed - While 'Post-Mughal' violates W:NPOV and is also factually incorrect (given that the Marathas succeeded the Durranis and not the Mughals), the use of Maratha 'period' is appropriate given that it is too short to be called an 'era'. Also, please discuss change in verified content on the relevant Discussion Page before removing any content. Thank you.--PolandHistoryProf (talk) 12:03, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't removed content based on whether it is sourced or not - I removed a irrelevant block quote. And Post-Mughal is more appropriate given that the article goes from Mughal to Sikh, and the intervening period is Durrani AND Maratha, so I dont know where your POV argument comes into play. In fact, the exaggeration of Maratha importance to Lahore history might instead be better termed as POV than me changing the header to include the reality that in the post mughalperiod, the city was contested by BOTH Marathas and Durranis. Both took advantage of a chaotic post-Mughal power vacuum, hence post-Mughal is the better descriptor, as it addresses the chaotic and anarachic period following Mughal rule during which both the Durranis and Marathas took advantage. This anarchic period lasted until Sikh rule. The post-Mughal period had no clear ruler. In fact, Maratha rule was so tenuous that they left behind not even a single monument. That the Narathas came second after Durranis doesn't change this - can add in a sentence about Durranis when I'm at a computer.
Also, Had I changed it to "Durrani period," then you could have conceuvably accused me of POV since I'm Pashtun like the Durranis. But that's not what I did.
In fact, while referencing me to Talk page, the reality is that you should have discussed it on the talk page before inserting a new header for a section. You in fact made the bigger change, not me. It was "Post-Mughal" before it was changed the Maratha, not the other way around. -Willard84 (my phone isn't logging me in for some reason)