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[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AEhheh&diff=71484868&oldid=63243451 Here], if you haven't seen it yet. [[User:Ehheh|Ehheh]] 00:06, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AEhheh&diff=71484868&oldid=63243451 Here], if you haven't seen it yet. [[User:Ehheh|Ehheh]] 00:06, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

==Trolling==
You are clearly going out of your way to provoke by making the most pusilanimous personal attacks. Stop. --[[User talk:Tony Sidaway|Tony Sidaway]] 12:15, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

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Welcome

Please leave me a message below, if you're so inclined. Nandesuka 20:23, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

AfD that needs sensible closing

I am writing in reply to a message I recieved. I am not spamming in 'Fairy'. The links are links to wikipedia like any other. I consider it unfair that you deleted the posts about the multicultural faerie links, and the anthology. Why are you behaving this way? I corrected my initial mistake.

Feel like closing this? I'd do so but I added a second pseudo-subpage to the nomination, so I'm "involved."
brenneman {L} 23:36, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You are clearly insane, as tht is exactly the close that I would have made. Enjoy your pariah-hood.
brenneman {L} 00:50, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • FYI: Actually TWO of us cited sources dating the term earlier than its Wikipedia article. After I found one source, someone else posted a source that was a year older than that. Wryspy 01:35, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Sure. It's clear that the term had been used, but that doesn't make the particular way it was being used in this article (and all throughout Wikipedia, incidentally — you wouldn't believe how much I've had to scrub) was not original research. Nandesuka 01:44, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Nice job on the AfD. I now note that the Cousin Oliver page now has a long list of examples, and there's a new discussion on its talk page as to whether the article should also include the addition of new adult characters to TV shows! One suggestion is the creating of a new list-article for adult cast additions. Asa01 02:13, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Chuck Lives! Article Chuck Cunningham syndrome has returned. How can that hapen? Asa01 03:24, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

TTTS

This is fetal hope and along with the TTTS Foundation, we are the only non-medical foundations that support TTTS. Is it possible to move our external link from the bottom to the top or just under TTTS Foundation? We are the only foundation to have the leading TTTS Treatment centers on our board.

Thank you,

Fetal Hope

TTTS Reply

Thank you for your comments. While you have a good suggestion and one we will take up, we do not appreciate the tone accusing us of using Wikipedia as the likes of Google. We request the placement only to help save babies lives. If you could save two babies lives today by getting information to a family, would you? We are asking nothing more than being listed in a means that might provide that hope. Most people do not look at the last links, but only the first couple of ones. The other links are medical resources that are on our site and on our board advisory, so we would not be infringing on their placement. We hope you understand this.

Again your suggestion on the text insert about the role of ours and other organizations is important. We intend, with our medical board, to edit quite a bit because the information can be more detailed and some is outdated.

We hope that you appreciate and understand why this is so important. Twice as many babies die from TTTS as SIDS, yet more of the population is aware of SIDS.

We thank you for yor understanding. We are not looking for Wikipedia to be an advocacy or a google!

List of Soul Calibur Bonus Characters deletion

Why did you delete the List of Soul Calibur Bonus Characters? Regards, iswatch19 09:54, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

List of Soul Calibur Bonus Characters deletion Reply

Thanks for the Reply! but why is the article deleted? I want to known more.

I am considering filing an RFC against User:Supreme_Cmdr due to conduct and persistently ignoring consensus. Would you certify the basis for the complaint if I filed such an RFC? Stifle (talk) 23:37, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That would be great, because then someone who is hopefully neutral will take an interest on the page and see how you folks have blatantly abused your authority and with wanton disregard for policy. So go ahead, file it. The more attention his page gets, the more likely it is that someone will step in and sort it out. In fact, I've already sent a strongly worded email to Wales about this.
Supreme_Cmdr(talk) 13:38, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Supreme Cmdr is now ready. Please review, and sign if you agree. Stifle (talk) 00:29, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I asked JBKramer about this on his talk page. I'm guessing he is referring to the idea that SC is DS. Addhoc 13:17, 8 August 2006 (UTC) Guessing wrongly as it happens. Addhoc 13:20, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reverting vandal

Thanks a lot for help in stopping that anon user (actually a reincarnation of [[User:Alienus}}). Do you know how to have someone blocked for sockpuppetry? LaszloWalrus 21:07, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I demand a CHECKUSER or phone call

You have implied that I am James Salsman. I am not. Do a checkuser or tell me how to reach you by phone. Peter Cheung = 69.228.65.174 05:07, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I resent the implication that I merely implied that you were James Salsman. Nandesuka 12:13, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting, I ran "Peter Cheung's" IP through geobytes and it came up in San Fransisco, right by where James lives, but no where near the real Dr Peter Cheung in Texas. I have emailed the good doctor (the real one), and am awaitng a reply. Torturous Devastating Cudgel 03:17, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I demand a full head of curly hair!

Or, "How to make people cranky without even trying." As anyone whom has ever been in charge of a toddler knows, making a demand that you can't enforce is certain to mostly make the demand-ee cranky. How about asking nicely? - brenneman {L} 05:42, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi there! question

Why was Encyclopedia Dramatica deleted? What is it anyway? --66.218.12.190 05:07, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Encyclopedia Dramatica

Just wondering, why isn't there allowed to be an article on Encyclopedia Dramatica? It is an actual website. If there was discussion relating to this, could you please point me to it? --Phantom784 01:24, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sure thing. The deletion discussion is |here. Hope that helps. Nandesuka 12:51, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Alienus sockpuppet

I think this guy is another Alienus sockpuppet: he deleted an entire block of text from Objectivism, Ayn Rand, and homosexuality and labeled the change in the summary as, "sp," which is similar, I believe, to something an Alienus sockpuppet did before. Anyway, this is the guy: user:Aminotene. --Yossarian 23:18, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This arbitration case has closed and the final decision is published at the link above.

Sam Korn (smoddy) 15:21, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This had two articles up for deletion:

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of manga published in English by Tokyopop--Kunzite 18:32, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Primetime

I'm less certain that user:Gassali, et al, are socks of Primetime. Primetime stopped by my talk page to disavow those usernames, and there are indications that these other users have verifiable identities. They may be just coincidental plagiarists. -Will Beback 21:34, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Little Late

The pending ArbCom request reminded me to compliment you: your close of the Encyclopedia Dramatica AfD was absolutely brilliant, the perfect sort of finishing touch that leads neutral parties (of which I was one) to see the wisdom in your resolution. The soundness of that close really helped the matter sail through DRV, and I'm sorry if you've been pestered over it by partisans. Best wishes, Xoloz 15:34, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Suckpuppet Vandalism

How am I supposed to dispute this? Doctor Octagon 22:02, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your request for a 'thesis'

Simple: Mr. Gilliland is written about and has been working in the field of Interaction Design for 10 years, has been a student, worker and contributer to computer science, Carnegie Mellon, the international art world, and has been photographed, appeared in magazines, newsletters and been a part of a University which has over 150,000 alumnus and 14,000 active community members at any one time. In addition to those sheer numbers of possible friends of Herbert Elwood Gilliland III, there are probably a number of people he knew in high school and other situations which could also explain why users of Wikipedia who number in the possible 100,000s if not millions could possibly be interested in mentioning someone whom they know is responsible for a variety of activities which are pro-environmental, product-development-oriented, and generally positive contributions to society. He has left an extensive paper trail in both the University and his work, which has been written about by several national magazines and newspapers whose subscription base is rather large. I dispute that he is not-at-all-notable in the fact that he is a scientist and artist and has contributed to high-profile and locally famous (in Pittsburgh, PA) art groups and shows, was once involved in broadcasting to a listener base of 10,000+ (at WRCT 88.3fm) and has also written a popular add-on for Dikumud. Google would be a great way to find him, searching www.cmu.edu would be a great way to find him. His resume is a great way to find out the information I have listed here, and searching his alma mater's paper files and the general web is another example. Since the community of web users is around 90 million it seems very possible that Mr. H. Elwood Gilliland III could be readily accessible via Google.com searches. Not to mention he has already been mentioned in Wikipedia in at least two other articles.

Regarding "why those two unconnected individuals would obsessively insert references to same in articles to which he has only the most tangential relevance" -- this is merely your opinion. I think providing insight into a sudden change in GM's manufacturing trends, and providing insight into the lineage of various products and articles, whose historical versions are readily accessible to anyone who uses the Wikipedia, are great examples of why two unconnected individuals would want to bring up censored material from past versions, and to create new citations for them which strengthen the argument or shed light onto existing topics, is a fine way of enhancing the Wikipedia and in addition is provided for by Wikipedia's design.

One might wonder why User:Atari2600tim is so preoccupied with basically censoring information about H. Elwood Gilliland III as it is borderlining on a hate crime since no one is apparantly allowed to talk about H. Elwood Gilliland III or his exploits it appears that anyone who challenges any of these users is obviously somehow circumventing a bias which has been inserted into Wikipedia, such as in the case of User:Jakew, a homosexual from Britain who spends almost every single day monitoring and approving or disapproving of contributions to Circumcision based on his own biased sense of what he feels the article should look like and contain. For this reason, anything written on Wikipedia should be considered completely biased and probably worthless for citation because of its inability to eliminate bias, despite attempts otherwise such as by mainly providing a variety of special flags and discussion opportunities to the contrary. I believe a policy against allowing citations of Wikipedia in literary work would ultimately benefit any academic or research institution, and it is probably viewed as a fairly unreliable source of information.

Are you jealous or something? It seems like you've joined the bandwagon as far as people who wish to shun or otherwise obscure any of his exploits. I am not a "sock puppet" and I feel that the ability to dispute "sock puppets" is obvious an under-developed portion of this service, since I am unable to dispute this with a greater audience than just the accuser and yourself. Adding an element of democracy would be a much better way of solving this problem, similar to jury-trial, since in this case there is no way for me to form advocacy for retaining my user account, other than to attempt to convince you that I'm not, which is unfair but is the established method, even if prejudicial, and thus the one I am following.

I would also like to add that in the course of creating this thesis I discovered that you have put Mr. Gilliland's NiMUD up for deletion. Frankly, I see this as a veiled attempt at destroying evidence of Mr. Gilliland's contributions, and since I have edited the pages and cleaned up a portion of both the NiMUD and online creation article, you will probably use that as some sort of smear campaign against me. That, I would call, manufacturing evidence, since I am clearly free to edit any article which I choose, as is anyone else.

I would also like to cite here Manufacturing Consent, which may be synonymous with your manufacturing evidence.



In addition to these claims, I would like to also return all search results for "Herb Gilliland", with the results pointing to the "other" Herb Gilliland removed by Google.com:

Herb Gilliland :: Portfolio Herb Gilliland heg@andrew.cmu.edu. EXPERIENCE. Media Designer Electrical and Computer Engineering Department Carnegie Mellon University. Supervisors: ... www.madmerv.com/folio/index.html - 12k - Cached - Similar pages

Amiga Music Preservation - Herb Gilliland - Interview Amiga Music Preservation - Herb Gilliland - Interview - The biggest & most comprehensive amiga music database. amp.dascene.net/detail.php?view=3297&detail=interview - 34k - Cached - Similar pages

Nine Mile Run QTVR Project assistant Herb Gilliland has created a series of QuickTime VR movies which are ... Outside the Wood St Gallery (248kb) Photo by Herb Gilliland. slaggarden.cfa.cmu.edu/qtvr/index.html - 4k - Cached - Similar pages

User talk:Atari2600tim - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia telerama.lm.com (Herb Gilliland) Newsgroups: rec.games.mud.diku Subject: The Isles 1.0 Date: 29 Jul 1994 01:27:06 -0400 Organization: Telerama Public Access ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Atari2600tim - 56k - Cached - Similar pages

Excerpts from Foerlin's Tome of the Realms Written by Herb Gilliland. Dedicated to Chris Cool ... The ideas contained herein are solely owned by the author, Herb Gilliland. ... www.mugs.net/~theisles/isles/foerlin.html - 31k - Cached - Similar pages

   Stellar Bodies // Celestial object viewer for Java // // Written ...
   Stellar Bodies // Celestial object viewer for Java // // Written by Herb Gilliland - March 2004 // // Compiled using IBM Jikes compiler using Proce55ing ...
   www.mugs.net/~locke/proce55ing/planetarium/planetarium.pde - 23k - Cached - Similar pages
   [ More results from www.mugs.net ]

Lydbury Grammar Clinic: sciencology Is there really a word "sciencology"? I'm not able to find any sitations which hold any weight thus far. ---- herb.gilliland@gmail.com. IP IP Logged ... www.lydbury.co.uk/grammar/forum_posts.asp?TID=14067 - 17k - Cached - Similar pages

Sidebar Web Design by Noel Hefele and Herb Gilliland art and ecology. slaggarden.cfa.cmu.edu/sidebar.htm - 16k - Cached - Similar pages [ More results from slaggarden.cfa.cmu.edu ]

Programming Grant C. Carrington, Herb Gilliland, Guy Letourneau, Hank Reinhardt, Edd Vick. Michael Cassutt, James C. Glass, Larry Lewis, Kathleen Richardson ... www.cascadiacon.org/programming/ - 28k - Cached - Similar pages

The Arthur C. Clarke Foundation The other judges are Greg Bear, Joe Haldeman, Yoji Kondo, Elizabeth Moon, Larry Niven, Jerry Pournelle, Spider Robinson, Stanley Schmidt, Herb Gilliland, ... www.clarkefoundation.org/news/052204.php - 12k - Cached - Similar pages

User:68.162.128.9 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Google for Pittsburgh PA Herb Gilliland and result #1:. Herb Gilliland 241 N. Dithridge Pittsburgh, PA 15213 (412)726-2403 ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:68.162.128.9 - 16k - Cached - Similar pages [ More results from en.wikipedia.org ]

Network Archives \ Processing 1.0 (BETA) herb gilliland 07 Oct '04. kaleidoscope Alcys 07 Oct '04. Genetic TSP tatsu 06 Oct '04. 3D Clock (needs Jsyn for sound) Salam Daher 05 Oct '04 ... www.processing.org/exhibition/network_page_7.html - 22k - Cached - Similar pages

On September 18th, 2003, I met with Electronic Arts Recruiter ... 2002: Escape Online by Martin C. Martin, Herb Gilliland, and others Now take a look at 2004: Screenshots of URBZ: Sims in the City by Maxis www.urbz.com ... www.madmerv.com/urbz/ - 2k - Cached - Similar pages [ More results from www.madmerv.com ]

Rhizome.org: Project Club Allison Bruce, Ziva Borlja, Peter Coppin, Herb Gilliland, Stan Jones, Minna Långström, Martin C Martin, Jean-Nicolas Vandelac, James Yang, Platform Digital, ... rhizome.org/object.rhiz?3331 - 15k - Cached - Similar pages

ART 62425 Interacive Ancient Egypt Herb Gilliland (MUDD), heg@andrew.cmu.edu. Sheila Halter (Archive), shalter@pghmail.com. David White (Flash), knave@sgi.net ... planetjeff.net/VAE/html/courseInfo.html - 39k - Cached - Similar pages

As well as all relevant results for Herbert Elwood Gilliland III:

Mad Merv Real Name: Herbert Elwood Gilliland III web programming and graphic design work My Interests: Computers, Video Games, Music, Art, Engineering and Activism ... www.madmerv.com/frames_1.html - 10k - Cached - Similar pages

Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Young Zaphod ... Entire content of article was "Markus Greene was a fictional character in a science fiction tale of survival written by Herbert Elwood Gilliland III in 1994 ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Young_Zaphod - 48k - Cached - Similar pages

Chris's Home Page ... no other explanation possible. Herbert Elwood Gilliland III - An old friend; I haven't seen him in a while. He has cool ideas for games and stuff. ... www.watson.org/~tesla/friends.html - 4k - Cached - Similar pages

Doctor Octagon 22:35, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for demonstrating my point that there are no reliable sources — in the sense defined in WP:RS — that assert that Herb Gilliland is in any way notable. Nandesuka 23:49, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Octagon's userpage vandalism.

Here, if you haven't seen it yet. Ehheh 00:06, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Trolling

You are clearly going out of your way to provoke by making the most pusilanimous personal attacks. Stop. --Tony Sidaway 12:15, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]