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In response to your question, you might want to look at the discussion that is taking place here. —JD[^{don't talk}|_email] 21:07, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

thanks teach, it wasn't boring at all. I did look it up in a dictionary but couldn't find it there and therefore changed it in the article. I think it's an obscure term,maybe? --Timdew 17:15, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Did you see the links in your e-mail inbox? —JD[^{don't talk}|_email] 19:41, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm just emailin you back. Read the second paragraph of the first link you sent me. godgoddingham333 19:43, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I know some of them say series, but the point I was trying to make is that they use the word season as well. —JD[^{don't talk}|_email] 19:44, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And the first paragraph of the second link. godgoddingham333 19:45, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pointing out every time the pages say series doesn't help. It's the fact that they use the word season as well, and more the fact that the word seasons makes more clear that it is plural than the word series. —JD[^{don't talk}|_email] 19:49, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Series is plural as well. Anyway, it is common knowledge that "series" is more widely known and used in Commonwealth countries' English, and season in America. godgoddingham333 19:58, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Australia doesn't use Commonwealth English, it uses Australian English. And I just sent you an e-mail that hopefully will end this. —JD[^{don't talk}|_email] 20:00, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Australian English is Commonwealth English. Right off the Commonwealth English page:

"Commonwealth English is a recently-coined collective term for a collection of dialects of the English language mostly based on British English used in the Commonwealth of Nations and many ex-Commonwealth countries where English is at least a common second language. These include: Australian English, British English, Caribbean English, Canadian English (but see below), Hiberno-English (Irish English), Hong Kong English, Indian English (and the English spoken in adjoining countries), formal Malaysian English, New Zealand English, formal Singapore English (but not colloquial Singlish), and South African English.

And in response to your email, have you seen the amount of times the official site uses the word series? Oh, and BTW, you're about to break the 3RR godgoddingham333 20:06, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How many times something uses one word over another isn't the point of this. The fact that something uses that word at all is the point; and the official website uses that particular word more than once, and has done in other seasons also. If the website never used the word season, I would see the point in changing it on Wikipedia, but it does use the word; it even refers to Big Brother 6 UK as a season, not a series. —JD[^{don't talk}|_email] 20:09, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, like I said, they do use both, but my point is that "series" is used more, and naming conventions state series over season. Wikiproject BB even says:

Articles about a Big Brother series are named Big Brother (country series number); with exception to Big Brother America articles, which should be named Big Brother (USA season number)." showing that only BBUSA articles should use season... godgoddingham333 20:14, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You do realise I wrote that, don't you..? —JD[^{don't talk}|_email] 20:18, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly; you're kinda being hypocritical then, don't you think? godgoddingham333 20:21, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't originally decide on that, and if and when there was a vote or something to decide on the names of articles, I wasn't even involved - I probably wasn't even on Wikipedia then. That applies to article names, which you've seen I've tried to change twice; not to article references. There's no reason to change it; changing it doesn't improve it. There's decent reasons for having it stay both ways, but there's nothing mind-blowing that would suggest that it must be changed, or that changing it has a major dramatic benefit. —JD[^{don't talk}|_email] 20:24, 3 August 2006 (UTC) "I know it's not gonna make a huge difference, but I'm just tying it in with the rest of the article and other articles and Wikiproject BB and Wikipeida's naming conventions... godgoddingham333 20:28, 3 August 2006 (UTC) Well apart from it being unnecessary, it'd take a lot of time to change every instance of season to series, and rewrite articles where necessary so that it doesn't look odd. —JD[^{don't talk}|_email] 20:32, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well I'll do it then... There aren't that many instances of season... godgoddingham333 20:37, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why don't you just, not? It would be much better. —JD[^{don't talk}|_email] 20:34, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why not? Why would it be "much better"?

Because there is seriously no need. I mean, even the Big Brother website uses the word season. It's hardly a major biggie that must be changed, otherwise it violates policy. If it's that major, you should get onto ESS about it. —JD[^{don't talk}|_email] 20:39, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I'm not very Wikitechy, what's ESS? godgoddingham333 20:41, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's not Wiki. It's Endemol Southern Star - they aint called Endemol everywhere. —JD[^{don't talk}|_email] 20:42, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeh, all right. Calm down. I didn't know did I? And I never said that they were just called Endemol. I'll do that then... godgoddingham333 20:48, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

...Seriously? —JD[^{don't talk}|_email] 20:49, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeh. Why not? godgoddingham333 20:51, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Because it seriously is no big deal! The word season is used a few times. If the people that run the show are using the word season, that should show that it isn't that big a deal, and the use of the word season does not matter. —JD[^{don't talk}|_email] 20:52, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I've emailed them, so I'll wait for a reply and then forward it to you. godgoddingham333 21:00, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay then... —JD[^{don't talk}|_email] 21:01, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

isn't wikipedia about consensus????? not a battle battle between two editors amongst many. im with godgoddingham on this --Timdew 21:14, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your support. Myself and JD actually get on quite well. He has some valid points, too. I'm not denying that... godgoddingham333 21:25, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]