I have noticed recently that this page has been suffering a lot of nonsensical made up rubbish and I have been deleting it on the spot. Please keep a lookout for this kind of fan-fiction being added to the page as it spoils it and states false facts, there were only ever thirteen episodes of TUGS and the wonderful program is being largely discredited by this junk

The Ferry in the series - is it spelt Fulton or Fultan - I can't remember!

It is spelt Fultan. Thehalford 05:16, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I'm Ohyeh, and I'm new here. Will someone please put up a page here about Salty's Lighthouse, the American equivalent to TUGS? I saw the show on two occasions; how it worked was there were these 2D characters in a lighthouse (with the lightbulb as a person with eyes, nose and mouth), and a certain point, they'd look out of the lighthouse and see the tugs from TUGS working in the harbour. I don't remember the series mentioning anything about Captain Star or Captain Zero, but I do know that the tugs had American accents (Ten Cents sounded like a California teenager and Sunshine kind of sounded like Dizzy from Bob the Builder).

I also have a question about a certain episode that I saw on Salty's Lighthouse-I'm not sure if it was Up River or Munitions, but I know that Ten Cents was saying to himself "I'm down in the dumps". I also know that there was some sort of fire on the docks, and at the end of the episode, all of the tugs were covered in soot. Lastly, I remember that warning horns were blown in the episode and that Ten Cents had to save Sunshine for some reason.

There was a section of this article devoted to "Salty's Lighthouse" at one time. I don't know why it was taken down. I can probably restore it from the "History" section, but because it's been taken down once before I don't know if it would stay up for long.

What's happened to the clearwater forums? They've just disappeared....

Clearwater Features Forum was deleted by a Proboards glitch. Big Mac, the admin, quickly set up the New Star Tugs Pier to house the Tugs DVD Campaign. It will take a while to get it back to what Clearwater was, but we're well on our way. :) Thehalford 05:16, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have been editing the episode guide frequently over the last few days such that Regatta/4th of July is the final episode. I stress that the order listed is based off video releases and not what it would logically appear to be. As such, could everyone not change the order in the episode guide until it is verified by a crew member (which seems unlikely) . Thank you. Thehalford 20:43, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Look, I can understand your point of view - but the problem here lies with irony - the video releases were probably just randomly structured with the episodes the way they were - and as it is quite clear Bigg Freeze was after 4th of July, the link that holds this opinion is Jack the Grappler who is quite clearly welcomed as though he has been in featured in the series before, so surely just relax and use your head!

I thought I was quite relaxed, thank you. I can't say I agree with your point of view though - Jack isn't mentioned by name in Bigg Freeze, just shown as a random crane that happens to be a face. In any event, like I say, the order IS immaterial, but I personally prefer it with Regatta as the last episode is the others remain as is. We could go through each episode and figure it out, but that would hardly be worth the effort. And consider this - is Grampus seen as a Star Sub at any stage? Not to my knowledge, so introducing him as the fnal Star member would also be an appropriate way to end the series. To be honest, the more I think about it, the more I'm certain Regatta IS the final episode. Thehalford 02:54, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We could argue about it for days! I guess this is something we'll never know - I remember reading on Bigg City Port website that 'Big Mac' had some taped episodes from when the series was first released - maybe they have transmission dates shown on them somewhere - that could lead to solving it perhaps. I haven't been acknowledged into the new forum yet - but I just wanted to know if you have disovered any new info recently (ie Voice Talent, rights to the series etc.) Regarding the episode list I believe we ought to just list the episodes without official numericals. We know Sunshine's the pilot... and that's just about it!

I know Big Mac quite well as a mate (and as a moderator on the new STP). There was a fairly sizeable discussion on this topic on the old Clearwater as well. There was a lot of info there that caused food for thought - like you say, we could go for ages about this. Nothing new has surfaced recently about the series though, unfortunately... Just on the ep list - probably getting rid of the 'order' proper would be a good idea, although there are some indisputable facts - High Tide before Munitions, Quarantine before ghosts, Trapped before Up River etc. This is one of the things in which we both think we're right but it doesn't much matter. Thehalford 02:59, 11 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just wondering if perhaps anyone that was involved with the series who has already been contacted (ie. Chris Tulloch, Shaun Prendergast) would know the correct episode orders etc., mind you there's little hope at that seeing the series is 17 years old now! Maybe there's someone else who can be contacted Foxearth 04:10, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello theHalford (and anyone else who would be generous to contribute), just wondering, unfortunatly my computer is fairly full on memory, but perhaps a couple of photos would help make the page look nicer (ie the Seven Star Tugs posing in Up River or Ten Cents in the beginning credits with the logo maybe) thankyou. Foxearth 04:14, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortuantely I don't have any photos available for uploading - nor the know-how. But if you join the Star Tugs Pier forum at http://startugspier.proboards53.com you will see many others who enjoy the series. As for the 'contacting cast members' issue - we have tried, but unfortunately it seems there's little hope. Thehalford 01:51, 23 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Funny you should say that, I've been awaiting conformation that I can use the forum for around two months... I was a member of the Clearwater Forums originally, it's sheer rudeness that I've not been allowed to join

To be fair, Big Mac has a fair bit on his plate. If you have a issue with the forum, you should email him about it, not whinge on a public forum. I can't allow members in myself - oonly he has that power. f you give me the name you registered as, I'll look into it for you. It's the most I can do. Thehalford 21:06, 26 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've had an idea, Thehalford - much to our annoyance a certain anonymous user keeps vandalising this page by adding fake episodes and characters - what I suggest is that next time he edits the page, we create a page for this false episode or character to lure him into the page so that he reads our annoyance and give him a warning that he will be blocked. Well what do you think?

It's a tempting idea to be sure. There's an anonymous user posting rubbish on the Thomas the Tank Engine pages as well - there are talk pages for the IP numbers. It'd be a lot easier just to go straight to the source instead of making a fake page just to show our disappointment. And odds are they wouldn't give a stuff anyway... Thehalford 22:13, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, If you look in Episode Guide (you have to click edit) I've left a message under Bigg Freeze, so next time they try to add a new episode at least they have some message to read - well it's worth a try I suppose. I wonder if this user has actually even seen TUGS, because at the shoddyness of his TTTE-like stories I sincerley doubt it. How's the new Star tug Pier forum coming along by the way? Sorry if I seemed a little whingy before Foxearth 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Saw the message - good stuff :). STP's coming along very slowly, it's difficult to bring it back to what Clearwater was. We're getting there though. It's a long process. Thehalford 22:15, 12 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I thought we might have triumphed there - no false edits for four or five days and then suddenly he/she bites back with new false episodes. There is no getting rid of this little toerag I guess... Foxearth 17 April 2006 (UTC)

You'll probably have picked up on this already, but whoever it is that keeps leaving fake episode titles in the guide seems to be convinced that there's an episode called "Ten Cents and the Golden Tunnel." That title keeps getting posted in the episode guide, despite the poster being warned not to do so. Isn't there anything we can do to stop him/her...surely I can't be the only person who is being driven mad by the whole thing?

It's me again, the same person who posted the above comment. This "Ten Cents and the Golden Tunnel" business is getting beyond a joke; whoever keeps posting it just won't give up or accept that it never existed. If you ask me, something needs to be done, and fast.

Hello, figured out how to download photos to the articles! Hopefully this means the TUGS articles can soon be expanded (the character ones at least - so all characters have pics of their own), maube we shoould have some kind of table with the characters, some thing like this for example, if we were to use Ten Cents:

• Name: Ten Cents
• Stack No: 1
• Fleet: Star Fleet
• Vessel Type: Harbour Switcher
• Characteristics: Cheeky, lovable young tug, with little experience. Ten Cents is headstrong and willing to listen. Mainly works with Sunshine.
• Voiced by: Simon Nash (rumoured)

Let me know anyway Foxearth (UTC)

That's a good idea. I think if wedo that for every character it might make the page a bit too long. I'd prefer a new article - something along the lines of 'List of Characters in TUGS' with a picture and a small bit on each of them. I'm certainly not disagreeing though. :) Thehalford 21:38, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose that's a good idea, I created all of the individual character pages when I was a wikipedia novice, and therefore I have since deemed them fairly obscure - I doubt no one looks at them that often (except for the vandalising sod who has so kindly buggered around with the page), therefore I believe (going along with your suggestion) we combine many of them into a much larger article (ala Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends article), with descriptions that were originally on their own individual page (maybe keep Stars and Z-Stacks individual pages, and combine others into: Other Tugs, Barges, Cranes, Liners, Other Vessels, and Other Characters articles). On the main TUGS page we could have info about the stars and Z-stacks, Grampus, Lillie Lightship, Izzy Gomez, Lord Stinker, Fire Tug and the Coast Guard (the most prominant characters throughout the series), who still have their own individual pages with deeper details. I will start finding pics for Ten Cents, and work my way down the list of articles hoping that Bigg City Port on Tripod.com has relevant pics to use! Reply soon anyhow :) Foxearth

Just as an update, Ten Cents, Big Mac, OJ and Top Hat pages all have new pics on them. Sadly, I couldn't get the template I made to work, hopefully a bit of tinkering around should sort it out, however hopefully I can get all relevant pics. Do you think the main page is in need of more photos? Let me know and I'll sort it out Foxearth 12:30, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry I'm a bit late - that looks great! I don't think the main page needs too many photos. Maybe just one of all the stars, one of all the Z-Stacks, something like that. Good work. Thehalford 22:21, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I apologise if this should go in the "stopping vandalism" section, but I think this warrants a section of its own. This "Ten Cents and the Golden Tunnel" business has just gotten out of hand. Whoever is behind it just won't back off and leave the page alone, but continues to endlessly claim that the episode existed when there is no chance that it ever did. Time after time I've had to remove it from the episode guide, and time after time he/she comes back and posts it again. He/she has also been leaving "facts" about the episode in the trivia and location sections of the guide, cluttering them up and making them look a mess. We've tried telling him/her to stop, but they just won't listen to sense. I think this business has gone far beyond all acceptable boundaries, and something needs to be done about it. Any suggestions?

About the only thing that can be done that hasn't been done would be telling them on the talk page of the IP to stop it. Other than that, our hands are pretty much tied, I think. Thehalford 02:06, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that's going to work. He/she has been told not to do it, but they just ignore the warnings and carry on doing it. The only possible solution I can think of is to have them banned, but I don't know if the incident has been serious enough to deserve such a punishment.

The unneccessary, and to this put quite bluntly: completely out of context quotations are a trial and tribulation as well. Tired of deleting them now! Foxearth

Hi, I have a question; if by some kind of miracle TUGS gets on DVD, could someone please see if the top dogs of the forum could try to include an American English Soundtrack for the episodes (so that the characters speak Bronx and New Jersy instead of Liverpudlian and Glaswegian)? Not to say that I'm not for authenticity, but I think that some American children might have a little bit of trouble understanding the thick British (even I had trouble when I watched High Tide on YouTube). Thanks a lot!68.151.106.239 21:53, 19 July 2006 (UTC)ohyeh[reply]

What's wrong with british accents... I'm a broad cockney and my mates here in Australia have no problem understanding me (although they do titter at my rhyming slang). Anyway I was drifting off subject. Ask Thehalford he should have some idea. Foxearth

I didn't mean to offend anybody; the American Soundtrack would be for us North Americans, who need to everything simple so we can understand stuff. The soundtrack wouldn't be on the main menu page or something; it would be a bonus feature, kind of like how some DVD's have Spanish and French soundtracks.ohyeh 22:13, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hm...I think that it would be pretty hard to implement, all things considered. It's an interesting idea, but America has already tried to use US voices in the show (in the abomination that was Salty's Lighthouse :P). I wouldn't be averse to it, but I don't think it would be a likely event if the series gets put on DVD. Thehalford 02:14, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I knew about Salty's Lighthouse; I considered it because the TUGS episodes on Salty's Lighthouse were like TTTE (really short, like five minutes). On TV.com, I typed in Salty's Lighthouse and found 24 episodes. That's almost twice as many episodes as TUGS, and Salty's Lighthouse just isn't the same (the whole animated stuff with the weird kid and the lighthouse bulb took up most of the episode).ohyeh68.151.106.239 16:15, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Star fleet was based on tugs of San Francisco waters in 1920. What class of tug are the tugs from the Star Fleet based on? Please upload images to show me. Felix 18:44, 28 July 2006

Is that really absolutely necessary? Foxearth

Yes. I just want to know what class of tugboat the Star Fleet is based on. Please upload the real Star Fleet. Felix 18:46, 30 July 2006

Why/ If it's just for your benefit and nobody else's don't you reckon that's a wee bit selfish? Foxearth

Look. I know the Star Fleet is based on the tugboats from San Francisco, but I don't know what class they're based on. Felix 11:55, 31 July 2006

So? Foxearth