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*'''Comment''' The opening sentence is rather confusing as Lincolnshire as a ceremonial county spans the [[East Midlands]] and [[Yorkshire and the Humber]] regions. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D|talk]]) 17:53, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' The opening sentence is rather confusing as Lincolnshire as a ceremonial county spans the [[East Midlands]] and [[Yorkshire and the Humber]] regions. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D|talk]]) 17:53, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

'''Comments from Rodw'''
This is an impressive article. I know it can be a challenge to find sources etc for local history on towns in England. A few comments:

Lead
*"ceremonial county" could be wikilinked to [[Ceremonial counties of England]] for non-UK readers
*[[Iron Age]] could be wikilinked (as could Roman & Anglo-Saxon) or do we assume these are well known enough for readers not to need to find out more from the relevant article? I note [[Bronze Age]] and other periods are wikilinked later in the article)
*I think [[Bishop of Lincoln]] should definitely be wikilinked
*I'm not a grammar expert but "which grew the fastest of any town in the county during the 1990s" didn't read clearly for me.

Geography
:Topography
*Civil Parish could be linked to [[Civil parishes in England]] and I'm not sure it should be capitalised.
*North East and South East shouldn't be capitalised (per [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Capital letters#Compass points]])
*You've told us about the soil but what is the underlying geology?
:Climate
* Does Cavendish = [[Cavendish, Suffolk]]?
*Is " hail the size of golf balls were reported in Sleaford and other parts of central Lincolnshire" supported by refs 7-9 at the end of the paragraph
*Capitalisation of West and North (as above)
History
:Etymology
*Any particular reason for using the informal "Testa de Nevill" rather than "Book of Fees" or "Liber feodorum"?
:Early
*The word "area" is used a lot in the first two sentences.
*Should "Bourne" be [[Bourne, Lincolnshire]]? (wikilinked later)
*In the lead [[River Slea]] is wikilinked and capitalised but not here. "river Slea" is used and capitalised on 2nd use.
*The last sentence of the first paragraph (from While only... ) seems very long - although I can't see anything with the grammar I would chop it into two (or three) sentences.
*Capitalisation of East
:Medieval (I think wp prefers the term [[Middle Ages]]
*Saxons & "within two centuries" in the previous sentence we have "c. 5th century–1066" so can we be more specific about which two centuries? Is the 8th & 9th mentioned later?
*Would it be worth linking [[watermill]]?
*Should it be "Britano-Roman" or "[[Romano-British"?
*[[St Denys' Church, Sleaford]] should be wikilinked
*Is a new town "planted" (or constructed or similar)?
*"and was the manor held by the bishop in 1086" something about the grammar but I'm not sure what
*[[Burgage]] should be wikilinked
*Should "demesne" be capitalised - both upper & lower case in the same sentence
*I have a concept of a wapentake as a [[Hundred (county division)|Hundred]] but others may not.
*Is Hundred Flaxwell a term/place which would be recognised today?
*I see [[Edward Clinton, 1st Earl of Lincoln]] is wikilinked in the note but I would do this in the text to prevent potential confusion with [[Lord Edward Clinton]] or the various other Lord Clintons.
*Would the grammar school mentioned be [[Carre's Grammar School]]?
*I see [[Carr baronets]] is mentioned and wikilinked but previously we had Carre family - I presume they are part of the same family (and lost the "E" over the years) but this is unclear.
*[[Cogglesford Mill]] should be wikilinked
*Who is Simon Pawney, is this a historian we should recognise?
*"From the Middle Ages down to then, Sleaford had been surrounded by three main open fields: North, West and Sleaford Fields." not sure what "then" refers to and capitalisation (are these capitalised as proper names of fields or directions?).
*Was it North or South [[Rauceby]] and should it be wikilinked?
If these sorts of comments are helpful I'll come back and take a look at the rest of the article.&mdash; [[User:Rodw|Rod]] <sup>[[User talk:Rodw|talk]]</sup> 18:16, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

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Sleaford is a market town in the English county of Lincolnshire, with a population of over 17,000 people and a history dating back to the Iron Age. When I started working on the article back in September 2014, it was 37,000 bytes long, had 44 citations and its structure and prose were inconsistent; I've largely rewritten it and it's now over 130,000 bytes long with more than 300 references. I do believe it's complete in its scope at least, and I now feel it is time to put it up for review. My aim would be to get this to FA and I am looking for any constructive feedback which might help me to get it there.

Many thanks, Noswall59 (talk) 15:39, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Rodw This is an impressive article. I know it can be a challenge to find sources etc for local history on towns in England. A few comments:

Lead

  • "ceremonial county" could be wikilinked to Ceremonial counties of England for non-UK readers
  • Iron Age could be wikilinked (as could Roman & Anglo-Saxon) or do we assume these are well known enough for readers not to need to find out more from the relevant article? I note Bronze Age and other periods are wikilinked later in the article)
  • I think Bishop of Lincoln should definitely be wikilinked
  • I'm not a grammar expert but "which grew the fastest of any town in the county during the 1990s" didn't read clearly for me.

Geography

Topography
Climate
  • Does Cavendish = Cavendish, Suffolk?
  • Is " hail the size of golf balls were reported in Sleaford and other parts of central Lincolnshire" supported by refs 7-9 at the end of the paragraph
  • Capitalisation of West and North (as above)

History

Etymology
  • Any particular reason for using the informal "Testa de Nevill" rather than "Book of Fees" or "Liber feodorum"?
Early
  • The word "area" is used a lot in the first two sentences.
  • Should "Bourne" be Bourne, Lincolnshire? (wikilinked later)
  • In the lead River Slea is wikilinked and capitalised but not here. "river Slea" is used and capitalised on 2nd use.
  • The last sentence of the first paragraph (from While only... ) seems very long - although I can't see anything with the grammar I would chop it into two (or three) sentences.
  • Capitalisation of East
Medieval (I think wp prefers the term Middle Ages
  • Saxons & "within two centuries" in the previous sentence we have "c. 5th century–1066" so can we be more specific about which two centuries? Is the 8th & 9th mentioned later?
  • Would it be worth linking watermill?
  • Should it be "Britano-Roman" or "[[Romano-British"?
  • St Denys' Church, Sleaford should be wikilinked
  • Is a new town "planted" (or constructed or similar)?
  • "and was the manor held by the bishop in 1086" something about the grammar but I'm not sure what
  • Burgage should be wikilinked
  • Should "demesne" be capitalised - both upper & lower case in the same sentence
  • I have a concept of a wapentake as a Hundred but others may not.
  • Is Hundred Flaxwell a term/place which would be recognised today?
  • I see Edward Clinton, 1st Earl of Lincoln is wikilinked in the note but I would do this in the text to prevent potential confusion with Lord Edward Clinton or the various other Lord Clintons.
  • Would the grammar school mentioned be Carre's Grammar School?
  • I see Carr baronets is mentioned and wikilinked but previously we had Carre family - I presume they are part of the same family (and lost the "E" over the years) but this is unclear.
  • Cogglesford Mill should be wikilinked
  • Who is Simon Pawney, is this a historian we should recognise?
  • "From the Middle Ages down to then, Sleaford had been surrounded by three main open fields: North, West and Sleaford Fields." not sure what "then" refers to and capitalisation (are these capitalised as proper names of fields or directions?).
  • Was it North or South Rauceby and should it be wikilinked?

If these sorts of comments are helpful I'll come back and take a look at the rest of the article.— Rod talk 18:16, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]