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*'''Comment''' The opening sentence is rather confusing as Lincolnshire as a ceremonial county spans the [[East Midlands]] and [[Yorkshire and the Humber]] regions. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D|talk]]) 17:53, 18 January 2015 (UTC) |
*'''Comment''' The opening sentence is rather confusing as Lincolnshire as a ceremonial county spans the [[East Midlands]] and [[Yorkshire and the Humber]] regions. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D|talk]]) 17:53, 18 January 2015 (UTC) |
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'''Comments from Rodw''' |
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This is an impressive article. I know it can be a challenge to find sources etc for local history on towns in England. A few comments: |
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*"ceremonial county" could be wikilinked to [[Ceremonial counties of England]] for non-UK readers |
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*[[Iron Age]] could be wikilinked (as could Roman & Anglo-Saxon) or do we assume these are well known enough for readers not to need to find out more from the relevant article? I note [[Bronze Age]] and other periods are wikilinked later in the article) |
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*I think [[Bishop of Lincoln]] should definitely be wikilinked |
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*I'm not a grammar expert but "which grew the fastest of any town in the county during the 1990s" didn't read clearly for me. |
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Geography |
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:Topography |
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*Civil Parish could be linked to [[Civil parishes in England]] and I'm not sure it should be capitalised. |
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*North East and South East shouldn't be capitalised (per [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Capital letters#Compass points]]) |
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*You've told us about the soil but what is the underlying geology? |
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:Climate |
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* Does Cavendish = [[Cavendish, Suffolk]]? |
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*Is " hail the size of golf balls were reported in Sleaford and other parts of central Lincolnshire" supported by refs 7-9 at the end of the paragraph |
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*Capitalisation of West and North (as above) |
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History |
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:Etymology |
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*Any particular reason for using the informal "Testa de Nevill" rather than "Book of Fees" or "Liber feodorum"? |
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:Early |
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*The word "area" is used a lot in the first two sentences. |
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*Should "Bourne" be [[Bourne, Lincolnshire]]? (wikilinked later) |
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*In the lead [[River Slea]] is wikilinked and capitalised but not here. "river Slea" is used and capitalised on 2nd use. |
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*The last sentence of the first paragraph (from While only... ) seems very long - although I can't see anything with the grammar I would chop it into two (or three) sentences. |
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*Capitalisation of East |
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:Medieval (I think wp prefers the term [[Middle Ages]] |
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*Saxons & "within two centuries" in the previous sentence we have "c. 5th century–1066" so can we be more specific about which two centuries? Is the 8th & 9th mentioned later? |
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*Would it be worth linking [[watermill]]? |
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*Should it be "Britano-Roman" or "[[Romano-British"? |
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*[[St Denys' Church, Sleaford]] should be wikilinked |
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*Is a new town "planted" (or constructed or similar)? |
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*"and was the manor held by the bishop in 1086" something about the grammar but I'm not sure what |
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*[[Burgage]] should be wikilinked |
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*Should "demesne" be capitalised - both upper & lower case in the same sentence |
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*I have a concept of a wapentake as a [[Hundred (county division)|Hundred]] but others may not. |
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*Is Hundred Flaxwell a term/place which would be recognised today? |
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*I see [[Edward Clinton, 1st Earl of Lincoln]] is wikilinked in the note but I would do this in the text to prevent potential confusion with [[Lord Edward Clinton]] or the various other Lord Clintons. |
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*Would the grammar school mentioned be [[Carre's Grammar School]]? |
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*I see [[Carr baronets]] is mentioned and wikilinked but previously we had Carre family - I presume they are part of the same family (and lost the "E" over the years) but this is unclear. |
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*[[Cogglesford Mill]] should be wikilinked |
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*Who is Simon Pawney, is this a historian we should recognise? |
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*"From the Middle Ages down to then, Sleaford had been surrounded by three main open fields: North, West and Sleaford Fields." not sure what "then" refers to and capitalisation (are these capitalised as proper names of fields or directions?). |
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*Was it North or South [[Rauceby]] and should it be wikilinked? |
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If these sorts of comments are helpful I'll come back and take a look at the rest of the article.— [[User:Rodw|Rod]] <sup>[[User talk:Rodw|talk]]</sup> 18:16, 18 January 2015 (UTC) |
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Sleaford is a market town in the English county of Lincolnshire, with a population of over 17,000 people and a history dating back to the Iron Age. When I started working on the article back in September 2014, it was 37,000 bytes long, had 44 citations and its structure and prose were inconsistent; I've largely rewritten it and it's now over 130,000 bytes long with more than 300 references. I do believe it's complete in its scope at least, and I now feel it is time to put it up for review. My aim would be to get this to FA and I am looking for any constructive feedback which might help me to get it there.
Many thanks, Noswall59 (talk) 15:39, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
- Comment The opening sentence is rather confusing as Lincolnshire as a ceremonial county spans the East Midlands and Yorkshire and the Humber regions. Keith D (talk) 17:53, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
Comments from Rodw This is an impressive article. I know it can be a challenge to find sources etc for local history on towns in England. A few comments:
Lead
- "ceremonial county" could be wikilinked to Ceremonial counties of England for non-UK readers
- Iron Age could be wikilinked (as could Roman & Anglo-Saxon) or do we assume these are well known enough for readers not to need to find out more from the relevant article? I note Bronze Age and other periods are wikilinked later in the article)
- I think Bishop of Lincoln should definitely be wikilinked
- I'm not a grammar expert but "which grew the fastest of any town in the county during the 1990s" didn't read clearly for me.
Geography
- Topography
- Civil Parish could be linked to Civil parishes in England and I'm not sure it should be capitalised.
- North East and South East shouldn't be capitalised (per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Capital letters#Compass points)
- You've told us about the soil but what is the underlying geology?
- Climate
- Does Cavendish = Cavendish, Suffolk?
- Is " hail the size of golf balls were reported in Sleaford and other parts of central Lincolnshire" supported by refs 7-9 at the end of the paragraph
- Capitalisation of West and North (as above)
History
- Etymology
- Any particular reason for using the informal "Testa de Nevill" rather than "Book of Fees" or "Liber feodorum"?
- Early
- The word "area" is used a lot in the first two sentences.
- Should "Bourne" be Bourne, Lincolnshire? (wikilinked later)
- In the lead River Slea is wikilinked and capitalised but not here. "river Slea" is used and capitalised on 2nd use.
- The last sentence of the first paragraph (from While only... ) seems very long - although I can't see anything with the grammar I would chop it into two (or three) sentences.
- Capitalisation of East
- Medieval (I think wp prefers the term Middle Ages
- Saxons & "within two centuries" in the previous sentence we have "c. 5th century–1066" so can we be more specific about which two centuries? Is the 8th & 9th mentioned later?
- Would it be worth linking watermill?
- Should it be "Britano-Roman" or "[[Romano-British"?
- St Denys' Church, Sleaford should be wikilinked
- Is a new town "planted" (or constructed or similar)?
- "and was the manor held by the bishop in 1086" something about the grammar but I'm not sure what
- Burgage should be wikilinked
- Should "demesne" be capitalised - both upper & lower case in the same sentence
- I have a concept of a wapentake as a Hundred but others may not.
- Is Hundred Flaxwell a term/place which would be recognised today?
- I see Edward Clinton, 1st Earl of Lincoln is wikilinked in the note but I would do this in the text to prevent potential confusion with Lord Edward Clinton or the various other Lord Clintons.
- Would the grammar school mentioned be Carre's Grammar School?
- I see Carr baronets is mentioned and wikilinked but previously we had Carre family - I presume they are part of the same family (and lost the "E" over the years) but this is unclear.
- Cogglesford Mill should be wikilinked
- Who is Simon Pawney, is this a historian we should recognise?
- "From the Middle Ages down to then, Sleaford had been surrounded by three main open fields: North, West and Sleaford Fields." not sure what "then" refers to and capitalisation (are these capitalised as proper names of fields or directions?).
- Was it North or South Rauceby and should it be wikilinked?
If these sorts of comments are helpful I'll come back and take a look at the rest of the article.— Rod talk 18:16, 18 January 2015 (UTC)