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Added the URL for the Musical version of the Mandukya Upanishad composed by Pandit Jasraj

--203.118.135.21 22:49, 29 January 2006 (UTC)Ganesh[reply]

The exposition is largely from the Karika called "Sri Ramakrishana Deepa" published by the Ramakrishna Mutt. This Upanishad has only twelve verse, so it is possible to include a line-by-line translation. Can someone, preferably someone well versed in Sanskrit, do it? - Gopalan evr (talk) 14:13, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone know the source for the quote in the article: "who is neither inwardly nor outwardly aware, nor both inward and outward, nor with consciousness infolded on itself.... who is unseen and ineffable, ungraspable, featureless, unthinkable and unnameable."? This quote is not from the next citation: Hajime Nakamura, Trevor Leggett, A history of early Vedānta philosophy, Part 2. Reprint by Motilal Banarsidass Publ., 2004 page 285. This citation is, upon checking the book, really only directly for the last sentence, "It is referred to as atyanta-shunyata (absolute emptiness)." Arapacana 14:24, 7 December 2011

I noticed there was a very strong Buddhist bias in this article. The usage of declarative statements like, "It IS influenced by Mahayana Buddhism' and 'It clearly is inspired by Buddhism' significantly dilute the impartiality of this article and gives it a very Buddhist spin. I am leaving this note for the consideration of potential editors.

92.3.100.150 (talk) 21:32, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Buddhist bias was prevalent because Mandukya Upanishad was confused with Mandukya Karika by an editor.
Mandukya Karika was written much later than the upanishad, in 8th century CE when concepts of Mulamadhyamakarika were well known.CorrectKnowledge (talk) 21:16, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. The Mandukay Upanishad dates to around 500 BC. So it isn't possible that it is influenced by Mahayana (much later than Hinayana). In fact, Samkhya, Vedanta, and Hinayana were all currents of thought prevalent in this area around 500 BCE. So it is wrong to say that it was influenced (by of all things) Mahayana, which was a much later development. You can read about its chronology here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upanishads#Chronology It is a grevious error to confuse it with the Karika's which were written centuries later. I shall delete this in 15 days unless someone objects.

Tcat64 (talk) 15:11, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Tcat64: The information in the article is 100% correct. The reference does say the Mandukya Upanishad itself was influenced by Buddhism. There is no confusion with the Karika's, which were also influenced by Buddhism.VictoriaGrayson^Talk 19:29, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@VictoriaGrayson: The reference has some serious mistakes and inconsistencies. It claims that Mandukya Upanishad is a "short prose work of eleven paragraphs" (Pg 283), when in fact there are twelve verses in this Upanishad. Furthermore, the Wikipedia article now claims that many "terms and expressions" like Shunyata are found in this Upanishad, which, anybody who has actually read the Mandukya Upanishad can tell you, is not true.Nilagriva (talk) 11:42, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@VictoriaGrayson: I agree with Nilagriva. The MU considerably predates Mahanaya teachings. And yes, the MU speaks of Turiya, not Shunyata.

Tcat64 (talk)

I'm afraid that your personal readings are not relevant here; scholarly sources are. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 20:06, 17 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]