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Can I ask you, as a favour, not to intervene in the discussion again, just allow it to take its course and abide by the result? [[User:Scolaire|Scolaire]] ([[User talk:Scolaire|talk]]) 13:45, 21 May 2014 (UTC) |
Can I ask you, as a favour, not to intervene in the discussion again, just allow it to take its course and abide by the result? [[User:Scolaire|Scolaire]] ([[User talk:Scolaire|talk]]) 13:45, 21 May 2014 (UTC) |
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== France, WWII-related GAN == |
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I've seen your contributions to French WWII-related articles recently. I've got [[French prisoners of war in World War II]] (a fairly important subject in the topic) up for GAN and am looking for a reviewer. Don't suppose it would interest you? ''[[User:Brigade Piron|Brigade Piron]]'' ([[User talk:Brigade Piron|talk]]) 11:25, 22 May 2014 (UTC) |
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Hi, Victor. Thanks for working on the new cognitive module article. I like your list of references, but could you please weave the references in as cites in support of assertions in the new, rewritten-from-scratch, article, to avoid the "reading list" format of the old article?
I'll put your cite list on the talk page, so it isn't lost. -- The Anome 15:48, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
- Ok, I'll try to do that. I'll also go through the "further reading" list and check which ones are more relevant.--Victor falk 15:52, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks! I'm pretty sure there's a good article to be written on this subject, which is a one of the most important current topics in cognitive science, evolutionary psychology and neurobiology. -- The Anome 16:01, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
Now I can sleep and the clown won't eat me.
I'll never outgrow the enjoyment I get from that first vote on an AfD. Thanks for your participation. / edg ? ? 17:25, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Image:World war one web alliance.jpg
Thanks for uploading the nifty image Image:World war one web alliance.jpg. Do you have any additional information on it you could add-- eg, source, artist, date? Thanks! Cheers, -- Infrogmation 11:06, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
War on Terrorism
Thanks for the comment. It is hard to keep articles like that neutral when the politicians and the media in many countries fails to be neutral on the topic.--Sir Anon (talk) 20:22, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
List of the day
I've changed the wording to what you suggested. The Transhumanist (talk) 10:25, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Good comments on Force Multiplication
Thank you for the useful addition. As far as adding the officer doctrine, are you thinking of Auftragstaktik as one concept is described by the US military, or something else? There is an existing article about Mission-type tactics, and there is no question that current US doctrine owes much to these German ideas. Should the Force Multiplication article link to that article, or are you thinking more about the doctrine belongs in Force Multiplication?
I discovered there is also an article on "Force multiplier", and it really seems silly not to merge the articles; I'll propose that on the Force Multiplier page.
Whether or not it would be notable in the context of this article might be questioned, but it might be very appropriate to add something about GEN Heinrici's defensive tactics toward the end of WWII. By having multiple defensive lines, using intelligence and judgment as to when the Soviets were about to bombard the forward line, and pulling back the troops so they are in position for the attack, is, to me, an excellent example of force multiplication in the defense. Would you like to write something on this, or on officer doctrine? Howard C. Berkowitz (talk) 14:19, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, I was thinking about Auftragstaktik, thank you; naturally linking it to "mission-type tactics". Doctrine as a force multiplier is often overlooked/forgotten, I guess because of the unbalanced US technofirepower fixation:) As John Boyd would have it, "Wars are fought with people, ideas, and hardware. In that order!"
- I consider Heinrici one of the best German WWII commanders; have you read Ryan's "The Last Battle"? His way of compensating totally overwhelming odds is perhaps one of the best examples of how superior tactics can act as a force multiplier, so yes I think it's appropriate to have that in article. I can tink of writing about both doctrine and Heinrici.
- Yeah, I saw that on the milhist talk page. I definitely support a merger. --victor falk 19:00, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Atramentum
I think you mY have something here. :-) Metaphorically I think it actually works well with "Ex bello" for reasons I explain on the project page. PetersV (talk) 01:45, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
ANI
Sorry for that, the two comments were posted just before I've made my reply to the afd tag issue and likely have stomped and annulled previous edits before. This happens quite often when you edits a page on its current version while multiple users are also doing edits to it at the same time. I had never removed intentionally removed or touched those comments. Thanks for alerting me for that. --JForget 15:10, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
- I suspected something like that. I worried about my sense of humour, it's bad, but not that much... btw, your edit summary was "tk", what does it mean?--victor falk 15:45, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
- Just an abbreviated way to say thanks.--JForget 17:50, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
RE: School consensus
Great! Thanks for letting me know about. It is on my watchlist, and I'll definitely participate. - Rjd0060 (talk) 05:48, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
- Ditto. I find the topic of interest and hope to contribute something useful. Thanks for alerting me. Accounting4Taste:talk 15:41, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't it be formatted like another notability guideline, ala Wikipedia:Notability (people)? There might be a school one already? • Lawrence Cohen 06:13, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
- There isn't. Wikipedia:Notability (schools) does exist, but it is just basically a redirect or dab page. - Rjd0060 (talk) 06:16, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
- Got it. Well, this is obviously overdue. • Lawrence Cohen 06:57, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for starting this up. It will be useful to have well-defined standards. --Coppertwig (talk) 01:08, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
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E-prime
"Honey tastes sweet, and so do you" is pretty funny. I took your point, but tried to improve it a bit. —Whig (talk) 04:21, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
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- I took a wikibreak in december, but it's been a little longer, since i've busier than expected in the other world; I've tried to check when looking up articles and see what's up, and I'm hopping to be done w/ most irl-stuff in a month or two. Do make some suggestions on this page, and I'll try to get on with'em. Merry easter all, victor falk 22:11, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Why cows moo
I've followed your suggestions and created a Lester Basil Sinclair stub, as the draft on your subpage was perfectly good enough for one. I made a couple of edits too, hope they'll help you in editing it further. Cheers, ¨--victor falk 13:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Why thank you. I pulled all the reasearch and should be able to get at least a few paragraphs out of it. Thanks for your help. ShoesssS Talk 15:25, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
People known as...
Thanks. I'm sure that if we had several people working on it, it could be fully categorised before the close of the AfD Review. I agree with your title suggestion, although personally I would use "people" rather than "persons". --Grimhelm (talk) 09:36, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Unfortunately not. I am partial to Risk, though, and my recent wargaming been moving more toward historical themes. --Grimhelm (talk) 09:36, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Well, two is several, isn't? Ah, Risk. Especially with home rules like the "Dr. Strangelove", "Spirit of the Falkland", "Vikings", "Coke Cartels", "Blietzkrieg", "Mongolic hordes"...¨¨ victor falk 10:00, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi Viktor, the section made some sweeping statement I do not agree with. Standard French does not distinguish two o's or two a's on the phonemic level. There are dialects which do, of course, but this was unclear in the section. Still, after consideration, I think that 'disputed' was probably too strong, so I reworded the section and added [citation needed] to claims which sound a bit dubious to me. Jasy jatere (talk) 13:58, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Comparison of web hosting services
Yup, I still have it! It's over at http://internet.wikia.com/wiki/Comparison_of_web_hosting_services but very untidy. --Jesdisciple (talk) 23:16, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
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Could you please explain more fully...
Can I ask where you got the location of Tora Bora ? I have found lat and long for it -- which, if I recall correctly, put it almost directly south of Jalalabad.
Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 07:12, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
- I based the coordinates (34°07′N 70°13′E) upon these maps: [1], [2],[3]., [4], [5]. The approximation to a minute degree (one nautical mile, 1.82 something kilometers as I recall) might be a tad too accurate, but I'm fairly sure it is within 5-10 km, max, of that. If the lat and long you found is more exact and reliable, please by all means do correct it.¨¨ victor falk 01:40, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks! Geo Swan (talk) 02:03, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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Sharbat Gula/Afghan Girl
Hi, Victor. Please join the discussion at Talk:Afghan Girl (photo)#Not a biography if you have the time/inclination. Thanks. —CapitalLetterBeginning (talk) 11:29, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
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FYI this article is at AFD again. You participated in the previous AFD and so may wish to take another look. Colonel Warden (talk) 16:16, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Great work
You done good :) Thank you. Jeepday (talk) 11:14, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
The entries there are submitted by the software developers themselves. It's not an independent source for any software. Pcap ping 20:26, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
- The potential exception is the article's section. I've used one of those in the page on ratpoison, but that was written by the main guy behind Freshmeat. Pcap ping 20:54, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
- What article was it? I don't remember and there's several software afd's I've !voted on in the past couple of days, it seems I didn't watchlisted it ¨¨ victor falk 15:30, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
- Muine for example, but a couple of others as well. Pcap ping 19:18, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
- You're correct about that one, so I've removed it [6] walk victor falk talk 21:30, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
- Muine for example, but a couple of others as well. Pcap ping 19:18, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
- What article was it? I don't remember and there's several software afd's I've !voted on in the past couple of days, it seems I didn't watchlisted it ¨¨ victor falk 15:30, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Political candidates
Hi there. I noticed you participated in the Articles for Deletion discussion for Graham Jones (politician). I have started a discussion regarding a consensus position for candidates in legislative elections (by way of amending WP:POLITICIAN, in case you are interested in putting forward your views there. --Mkativerata (talk) 01:58, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
- thank you, I'll do thatwalk victor falk talk 10:17, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
Regarding WP:NOT#DIR
Hello JBSupreme,
I harbour doubts that misunderstand this policy; it does not forbid any and all kind of lists on wikipedia. Lists on wikipedia are, ipse facto, directories. I would like to refer, if are you umaware of them, to wp:list, wp:standalone and wp:cln. After reading them, you might ponder on wherefore I !voted as I did on first on the AfD's for the bbs software and sharpie markers lists. If you still disagree after that and would not change how you !voted, I'd like you to explain me why so that we might discuss it.
Thank you.walk victor falk talk 10:16, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
- I am comfortable with your comments, you seem like a rational and level headed guy. JBsupreme (talk) 19:05, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Hello. I was checking article's that I've recently edited and noticed a discrepancy that you may be able to help me with. In the article 197856 Tafelmusik, the first reference says it was discovered in 2004. The second reference says "first obs. used 2001-??-??" Currently the infobox uses the 2001 date but the article has my previous edit claiming a discovery date of 2004. Is the 2004 date wrong or was it was first spotted in 2001 but not recognized as a new asteroid until 2004? In other words, are both dates correct, but for different purposes, or should we change 2004 to 2001? Thank you for any help you can provide. 152.16.59.102 (talk) 00:35, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
- I think it is so that it was first identified as an asteroid in 2004, and that 2001 was the earliest unidentified observation that was used retroactively as an element to calculate an orbit("date of first observation used in the fit"). I am not sure of what the convention is regarding to what is first observation, so I'll ask Wikiproject astronomy, see what they say. walk victor falk talk 10:07, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
- I happened to catch your post to the Wikiproject astronomy page while patrolling Recent Changes. Thank you for taking the time to seek confirmation. 152.16.59.102 (talk) 10:11, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
- It would seem that the 2001 would be a precovery image, 2004 would be the discovery. -- Kheider (talk) 18:02, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
- Ah, I had forgotten that word. I see that the article hasn't any picture, and you have lots on frontpage; do you know what was the earliest ever precovery? And where one could find that image?walk victor falk talk 21:07, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
- It would seem that the 2001 would be a precovery image, 2004 would be the discovery. -- Kheider (talk) 18:02, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
- I happened to catch your post to the Wikiproject astronomy page while patrolling Recent Changes. Thank you for taking the time to seek confirmation. 152.16.59.102 (talk) 10:11, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
- I think it is so that it was first identified as an asteroid in 2004, and that 2001 was the earliest unidentified observation that was used retroactively as an element to calculate an orbit("date of first observation used in the fit"). I am not sure of what the convention is regarding to what is first observation, so I'll ask Wikiproject astronomy, see what they say. walk victor falk talk 10:07, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
2060 Chiron was discovered in 1977, but there is a precovery photo from 1895, when Chiron was at perihelion (closest approach to the Sun). -- Kheider (talk) 09:59, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
file to commons
is it allowed upload this file at commons:Libellus de moribus hominum et officiis nobilium ac popularium super ludo scachorum.jpg? There's other file from Caxton's book in commons. Thanks OTAVIO1981 (talk) 10:07, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
- I don't think there should be any problems, it's pretty clear the artist has been dead for more than one hundred years. walk victor falk talk 09:48, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Taliban active fighters strength
On 3 March 2010, US estimate that 36,000 Afghan taliban militants are active in Afghanistan. These are some links.
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2010/03/03/Taliban-fighters-estimated-at-36000/UPI-67591267620358/
I think that first one link is best.Because The Nation newspaper is Pakistan's most popular newspaper and its also too much femous on internet.
Update the talibans strength and total strength of all militants which is 98,100 total militants in war in afghanistan article.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_%282001%E2%80%93present%29119.152.29.16 (talk) 22:43, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
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Manny
Thanks for doing the referencing on the Manny the Hippie article. It's in a much better state now than when I nominated it - I have no problem with the article existing now. Cheers, The-Pope (talk) 14:46, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Requested move - Chihuahua (state)
Boston is named after Boston, Lincolnshire, still the topic that gave the name to the other is not the primary. What is name after what is not relevant to determine what is the primary topic. Primary topic is about usage in the English language. I replied at Talk:Chihuahua#Requested move - Chihuahua (state) TopoChecker (talk) 01:22, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
- I did reply. TopoChecker (talk) 20:57, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
- @ didactic - the proposal is not to make the dog page having the plain name. I would oppose that. I would simple want Chihuahua be the dab page. Then all links can be adjusted to point to the correct topic, just yesterday a fixed between 10 and 20 links that pointed to the plain name, but meant the dog. WP links will be more precise with more dab pages. And less fights about whether biology or geography is more important. Both names are proper names, not normal English language words. TopoChecker (talk) 19:14, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
- I am not flat out opposed to making Chihuahua the dab. However, this might be delicate from a procedural point of view. walk victor falk talk 19:35, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
- Could you be more specific what problems could arise? TopoChecker (talk) 22:41, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not sure how I would handle this myself. Perhaps you should ask at Wikipedia_talk:Requested_moves. walk victor falk talk 22:52, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
- Could you be more specific what problems could arise? TopoChecker (talk) 22:41, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
- I am not flat out opposed to making Chihuahua the dab. However, this might be delicate from a procedural point of view. walk victor falk talk 19:35, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
- @ didactic - the proposal is not to make the dog page having the plain name. I would oppose that. I would simple want Chihuahua be the dab page. Then all links can be adjusted to point to the correct topic, just yesterday a fixed between 10 and 20 links that pointed to the plain name, but meant the dog. WP links will be more precise with more dab pages. And less fights about whether biology or geography is more important. Both names are proper names, not normal English language words. TopoChecker (talk) 19:14, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
The Bugle: Issue LVIII, December 2010
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Gallic Empire
Thanks for the comment, nice you liked it. Your reply and that of HiLo48 made me smile.
Very interesting how the outcome for deletion voting on Victoria (Western Australia) will be. Maybe this Victoria renaming discussion will, beside the Gallic Empire also make a little(?) obscure hill famous. TopoChecker (talk) 06:02, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
- It has been renamed to Victoria Hill, funny there is a person of that name. If one day it get's a dab like the Gallic Victoria, it would be Victoria Hill (Australia). How misleading. Since the delete nomination I created a copy at User:TopoChecker/Victoria. I will check you links and see to create more articles, hopefully there is one bigger Victoria Hill. TopoChecker (talk) 15:02, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
Your Comment on the AfD
I think the problem is there is a content dispute between editors (the fact that a subpage with an alternative version has been created is very symptomatic) and AfD is not the forum to resolve it.
Just to Clarify I wrote a lot of content for the original article, and received a lot of flack from Viriditas for it. The Sandbox version by me was an attempt to appease his concerns - which has recieved more flack from him than the original article did (including his starting an OR report against me). Essentially I feel I've been pressured into an edit war with myself and personally I would be happy with the current version with some further tidying Stuart.Jamieson (talk) 23:47, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
Jozef Šulc
Here is a link to German soldier who refused .... the article on Serbian language. If you are not happy with Google Translator let me know.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 08:23, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
- One more link. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 08:27, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
- Here is one more pic and one more and link to a blog . Thank you for posting your comment. You made my day.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 08:34, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
In English, the regions and departements of France do not have articles preceding their names, as is evidenced by not only the articles on the regions themselves (Languedoc-Roussillon and Limousin) but also the introductions to the articles listed above. ninety:one (reply on my talk) 18:28, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
- Ok, I can go with that. walk victor falk talk 19:54, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
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See here. So much for WP:BITE. Any ideas on evaluating the 2000 edits they made? Franamax (talk) 19:05, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
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Hi Victor What is your name Hi Victor Falk Please upload Eva LaRue please —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.236.134.144 (talk) 19:55, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Hello Victor,
do you think you could give some more information about File:LOCAAS.gif? I know it's been a while since the upload, but there is given no source and no author. I would like to transfer it to Commons in order to use it at de:Low Cost Autonomous Attack System. Greetings, --El Grafo (talk) 13:52, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
- It was from FAS.org, but they seeded to have pulled down the picture. An alternative is http://accessscience.com/popup.aspx?figID=016800FG0020&id=016800&name=figure. 08:22, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
User Георги Тодоров Hi Victor please a create page rhylee Richards 94.236.131.10 (talk) 11:49, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
aussteiger
Ich verstehe nicht. Bitte schön ein erklärung? walk victor falk talk 14:56, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- The reason why I got involved in the Assange article is related to the question of how events from abroad are reported in another country and in particular how to translate not only words but the concepts behind them. I think the media do not make enough effort to explain differences between countries. I have tried to find out at what point "charges" are filed in Sweden, in the UK and in the US, and what "filing charges" actually means in the three countries but have not really succeeded. When I saw the word "Aussteiger" in the German article from which I quoted today I was reminded of this general problem. Aussteiger means getting out (aussteigen) of something (a train, the rat race, Wikileaks), often something that is not good or is not good for you but there is no word in English which conveys exactly this meaning. I wonder whether there is an expression in Swedish which conveys the exact American-English meaning of "charges have not yet been filed". Sorry for the long explanation, I should not have mentioned Aussteiger at all ... KathaLu (talk) 03:59, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
i thought your edit to HBGary was very interesting, but unfortunately I have to agree with the other editor, CatalystParadox, who removed it because crowdleaks is not really a reliable source. . . . Decora (talk) 01:33, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Batavia
Thank you for this edit. I didn't like the way it was (and I wrote it), but couldn't come up with a less awkward phrasing. Yours was a significant improvement. HuskyHuskie (talk) 03:39, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
rubygate
Victor do you mind if I remove the current event template , its not really required through the template definition or beneficial to the article. Off2riorob (talk) 19:21, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- No, either way is fine by me. walk victor falk talk 19:22, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Cool, the trial isn't scheduled until April so that would make it a pretty long current event, and in truth, there is nothing much going on presently, regards. Off2riorob (talk) 19:32, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Nomination of 10–0 for deletion
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I'm a Wikipedian since 2003, but thank you anyway. 95.132.84.187 (talk) 09:26, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- Just came here to leave a similar message, been editor for years...appreciate the sentiment, but is leaving such welcomes on dynamic IPs really useful? 92.21.199.156 (talk) 14:03, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
I left a comment for you on en.WN. - Amgine (talk) 04:49, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Literature of Somalia RM
Hi Victor. You !voted support at the requested move discussion, which has been relisted. Since you last commmented, consensus has shifted slightly to support "Somalian literature" rather than "Somali literature". Can you revisit the above discussion to either re-affirm your support or to take a new stance on the RM? Thanks, Dabomb87 (talk) 22:45, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
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Paulskirchenverfassung
Ping on Talk:Paulskirchenverfassung#Title_of_this_article. Int21h (talk) 08:24, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
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Hi Victor, I have worked on the national security article, adding whatever I could. The truth is that predominantly, the subject has been dominated by American and European thinkers. I am adding more references I have found but the overall proportion dioes not change much. Being an Indian, I think, takes some bias away. I just wanted to know, I am removing the tag. If you object, please feel to revert once my new additions are over if you feel that this is still the case. AshLin (talk) 18:24, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
darien map
victor, I'm a writer in Scotland. I'm keen to speak about one of the Darien maps. Could you get in touch at dean.scott@virginmedia.com, thanks81.102.107.24 (talk) 16:46, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
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Conflict in Afghanistan (1978–present) listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Conflict in Afghanistan (1978–present). Since you had some involvement with the Conflict in Afghanistan (1978–present) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). walk victor falk talk 14:38, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
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Can you please look at this, then do you really want to oppose the name used in tourist guides? I should have simply presented this link as the rationale, and could have saved a lot of wasted bytes. In any case I have asked for a relist. In ictu oculi (talk) 02:43, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, and I see 629 results. When I type with an "i" I see 456 results. That is absolutely insufficient, especially when we're talking about litterature like travel and tourist literature, that will try to use names as close as the local language as possible, that is updated and becomes obsolete extremely frequently, and that has a vested interest in adopting names that spund "new" and "exotic". Cheers, walk victor falk talk 04:46, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
Swedish names on English WP
Hello and thank you for all your constructive edits! You might bear in mind that some of the Swedish kings of more ancient times are virtually unknown to English literature and that assigning Swedish names to them as if they are English names is not always appropriate. I am a strong believer in English text that is as phonetically smooth and orally readable as possible. Cordially, --SergeWoodzing (talk) 01:09, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
- Hi, first of all I'd like to say I much appreciate all the views on your user page. Excellent and very helpful. Matters at hand:
- As far as I understand wp:ncroy, the bold intro should be name 99, even if the article is titled name 99 of country, unless "name 99 of country" is the wp:commonname. E.g. Henry IV of France: "Henry IV (13 December 1553 – 14 May 1610), Henri-Quatre ", or Henry IV of England: "Henry IV (15 April 1367 – 20 March 1413) was King of England and".
- Isn't "Canutesson" an accepted exonym of "Knutsson"? Clarifying that "Magnusson" is "Magnus' son" is redundant and superfluous, but that "Nilsson" is "Nicholas' son" is not obvious, even to a Swedish-speaker.
- Cheers, walk victor falk talk 01:04, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you! As to your first point, I do not know policy, but I think it's always clearer to start the article text with the full bolded article name when possible and unless it causes a problem. In these cases, I can't see it does. As to your second question I fully agree about Canuteson and son of Nicholas in principle, but have also (contradictorily) learned the hard way (after many battles) that we are not allowed to introduce new names (not supported in other literature) into English WP. Every good wish ~ --SergeWoodzing (talk) 01:13, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
- Isn't "of Sweden" redundant? Like for instance: "Eric "X"[1] of Sweden, Swedish: Erik Knutsson; Old Norse: Eiríkr Knútsson (c. 1180 – 10 April 1216) was the King of Sweden between 1208 and 1216."? (emphasis added) walk victor falk talk 01:31, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
- In my opinion, no more so that writing e.g. Saint Francis of Assisi was a resident of Assisi for a long time. In other words, we can have it or omit it without much difference, except, as I said, it's always clearer to start the article text with the full bolded article name. The idiom kung av Sverige in Swedish is a bit more formal - högtravande - than King of Sweden in English. Could that be what's making you react? --SergeWoodzing (talk) 18:46, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
- My first language is French, so I'm rather tolerant of "högtravande" speechifying (: It's more that I was mercilessly drilled at school (French, of course) to avoid repetitions close to each other in a text (and absolutely not in the same sentence!!). Plus, it allows then wikilinking to Sweden or monarchy of Sweden or whathaveyou. walk victor falk talk 09:35, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
- In my opinion, no more so that writing e.g. Saint Francis of Assisi was a resident of Assisi for a long time. In other words, we can have it or omit it without much difference, except, as I said, it's always clearer to start the article text with the full bolded article name. The idiom kung av Sverige in Swedish is a bit more formal - högtravande - than King of Sweden in English. Could that be what's making you react? --SergeWoodzing (talk) 18:46, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
- Isn't "of Sweden" redundant? Like for instance: "Eric "X"[1] of Sweden, Swedish: Erik Knutsson; Old Norse: Eiríkr Knútsson (c. 1180 – 10 April 1216) was the King of Sweden between 1208 and 1216."? (emphasis added) walk victor falk talk 01:31, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you! As to your first point, I do not know policy, but I think it's always clearer to start the article text with the full bolded article name when possible and unless it causes a problem. In these cases, I can't see it does. As to your second question I fully agree about Canuteson and son of Nicholas in principle, but have also (contradictorily) learned the hard way (after many battles) that we are not allowed to introduce new names (not supported in other literature) into English WP. Every good wish ~ --SergeWoodzing (talk) 01:13, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
Checking back
Hi Victor,
Thanks for the message. I want to be sure I understand it, though. You are encouraging me to sign my posts, such as the post I left on the list of fictional diseases page. Just to make sure I am understanding where I may have gaffed, or your are trying to be helpful, please check all that apply:
[ ] It is not apparent that I did sign with link to my page, time, and date. (To me it is apparent, but perhaps I did so in the wrong place, or not in all places I needed to. Edit: Oh wait, I see I goofed the time stamp.).
[ ] It is apparent that I signed my post, but I did so manually (i.e. without the quad-tilde code), and don't I know it would be so much easier to type quad-tilde?. (Incidentally, my answer here is: Ohhhhh! I thought quad-tilde was only for use in the descriptive line (right above the check-box for "This is a minor edit"). That's super helpful, thanks!
[ ] Something else entirely. :)
Best, Lexy-lou (talk) 21:26, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
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Harald III as a disambig page.
Hi, victor falk, would you join this discussion please? I see that you hesitated for a few edits and then made Harald III into a redirect. We don't quite agree on that ~. Thanks. SzMithrandir (talk) 20:40, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
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Great Recession, internet & the economy
- I'm a bit dismayed that people would want to delete referring to the GR. Could you refer me to where this discussion is taking place?
- Same with the internet, it's the most important phenomenon from both a social and economical point of view in the last quarter century, it's like talking about Britain in the late XIXth century without mentioning railroads and steam power.
- Leaving out the above would leave a completely vapid and bland sentence mumbling sweet nothings about the economy, and two sentences about 911 & it's aftermath. Might as well do away with the section altogether in that case. Am I right in suspecting there are some editors supporting that option?
- /Cheers walk victor falk talk 06:05, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
- The Contemporary section has been the subject of huge discussion (marked as such on the talk page), and I'd suggest arguing for your changes there if you really feel that strongly about them. But I'll warn you that the alternative proposal to the current internet sentence was much shorter, and the general sentiment throughout the History section has been in favor of streamlining, so I don't know how much stomach there will be for expanding it, especially if we lose the explicit part about its origins in the process, instead simply offering a cryptic segment about who had access to it early on. So far at least two editors, including me, have argued that the entire Obama sentence should go because it's recentism, but with one editor offering some resistance we recently just took the measured step (at least for now) of shortening it. VictorD7 (talk) 06:20, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
- /Cheers walk victor falk talk 06:05, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
mh370
As I say in my edit summary "Echo, because of its hydrographic and bathymetric capabilities for mapping the ocean floor, is the more important resource".
The hierarchy is survey ship > submarine > other ships with sonar.
A survey ship has all the necessities for oceanographic analysis, such as salinity, currents, etc. It's also crucial as a node for coordinating the search between the sub and other assets, since a submerged can only communicate via British military UHF radio networks.
Echo has also Command & Control facilities aboard for coordinating with other naval assets.
The submarine's main advantage is that it can move silently much faster while listening for pings, thus covering a much larger area. Other than that, it is just another ship. /Cheers walk victor falk talk 23:39, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
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- Done--Mark Miller (talk) 04:14, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
- First off, thank you for being a very reasonable editor to debate with. But I wanted to at least give you a few qualifiers on which to base a few things ( you may look at the areas if you wish to see my contributions). I contribute on a regular basis to Non Free content review and have helped write some of the criteria, or at least to keep the information correct per the consensus of editors. Been a while since I was there but have been active on and off for some time. I am a member of Project illustration and a regular contributor to Wikimedia Commons with both, images I have created and images I have transferred from Flickr our have been given permission to upload by the copyright holder.
- I am a regular Good Article reviewer and understand the criteria for GA which indicates that image use policy must be adhered to in order to be listed as GA. Images are always the first thing I review as that is one of my areas of expertise. Knowledge of copyright, Freedom of Panorama and relevance to content etc.. I am an experienced editor who has been on Wikipedia as a registered user since 2007 (about the same amount of time as you) and volunteer regularly on many of our noticeboards including WP:RS, WP:DRN, WP:ANI, WP:BLP and many others when I have the time. Nobody is perfect and I make mistakes like everyone else and when I know I have erred I admit it. Should the need arise, I have no problem saying "I'm sorry" or just "I apologize". I am a major contributor to WP:BRD and a contributor to WP:V which includes a recent re-write I made to the "Burden" policy. I also help out at the Teahouse questions and answers page. I am also one of the regular contributors to United States with the first sentence being mostly my edits and the two references there I contributed. But this is just a means of explaining that I strive to learn and help as much as possible. This does not make me "right", it just makes me an editor. I hope we can collaborate and improve the article enough to raise it to GA eventually, but there is no hurry. There never is.--Mark Miller (talk) 07:57, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
- Love, LOVE, LOVE the tesla image!--Mark Miller (talk) 04:37, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
- @User talk:Mark Miller Unfortunately, an editor has switched their !vote for a picture of the LEM. I think the Tesla+Apollo Soyuz gives widest covering of science, space race and the cold war, so if you agree about the Soyouz, it would increase Teslas's chances. walk victor falk talk 04:43, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
- Love, LOVE, LOVE the tesla image!--Mark Miller (talk) 04:37, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
- I am a regular Good Article reviewer and understand the criteria for GA which indicates that image use policy must be adhered to in order to be listed as GA. Images are always the first thing I review as that is one of my areas of expertise. Knowledge of copyright, Freedom of Panorama and relevance to content etc.. I am an experienced editor who has been on Wikipedia as a registered user since 2007 (about the same amount of time as you) and volunteer regularly on many of our noticeboards including WP:RS, WP:DRN, WP:ANI, WP:BLP and many others when I have the time. Nobody is perfect and I make mistakes like everyone else and when I know I have erred I admit it. Should the need arise, I have no problem saying "I'm sorry" or just "I apologize". I am a major contributor to WP:BRD and a contributor to WP:V which includes a recent re-write I made to the "Burden" policy. I also help out at the Teahouse questions and answers page. I am also one of the regular contributors to United States with the first sentence being mostly my edits and the two references there I contributed. But this is just a means of explaining that I strive to learn and help as much as possible. This does not make me "right", it just makes me an editor. I hope we can collaborate and improve the article enough to raise it to GA eventually, but there is no hurry. There never is.--Mark Miller (talk) 07:57, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
- It is sad that editors would rather hold on to content just because it is "long standing" and not because it is accurate or inline with policy and guidelines but that is very common on articles as contentious as the United States. I am mostly concerned with what appears to be unacceptable labeling of what constitutes an American in that discussion.--Mark Miller (talk) 21:25, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
- Mark Miller "Long-standing" is such a circular non-argument. "-Why do we have to keep this picture? Because it's been there a long time. -Why has it been there a long time? -Because we have kept it." I wonder what is the way to make people realise that, without upsetting them. walk victor falk talk 21:38, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
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Talk page etiquette
Please be more careful not to overwrite others' edits on talk pages. If you receive an edit conflict, paste your comments into the top box below what was added in the meantime rather than whatever you have been doing. And refactoring a thread to change the order in which comments are placed is generally wrong - comments should be left in the order in which they are placed, regardless of edit conflicts. Thank you. Parsecboy (talk) 20:51, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
- I know all that, sometimes you just slip. Can I ask you some questions, since you're here anyway? Were you an active editor on that page in 2010? How was the transition then if you were there? walk victor falk talk 20:58, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
- I wasn't sure, because you did it twice. Nevertheless, no, I wasn't still active on the WWII page by 2010 - I left probably around 2008 because it wasn't worth my time engaging in the constant arguments (only some of which were over the infobox). Parsecboy (talk) 12:02, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
- Did I? It was some combination of saving without previewing and closing the wrong tab. So you were there during the transition from 5+3 to 0? From what I understand from the archives, it was due to constant bickering over whether France or China were to have to fourth place, if alphabetical was better, and whether "Soviet Union" or "USSR" should be used if so, or chronological date of entry in the war, and such. walk victor falk talk 12:31, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, here was the second time. But yes, I was there when we decided to just use the links to the main articles. There were constant arguments over ordering combatants, whether more than just the 5 and 3 should be included (since, for instance, Australians and Canadians would periodically come by to point out that they were independent dominions, and thus shouldn't be lumped in with Britain - or the frequent "You're including FRANCE? They surrendered after 6 weeks of fighting! Then you must include 'my favorite country' too!" line of argument), and so forth. We eventually concluded that the only way to stop the endless, pointless arguments was to limit it strictly to the main lists. Parsecboy (talk) 13:16, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
- Wow that's strange, you actually restored my comment and I can't find an individual diff of me adding it. About the matter, this goes with my opinion that it's in human nature to actively seek such things to bicker about. Deflecting them to argue about the relative ordering of Mexico and Luxembourg acts as foil, leaving the much more important top of the list stable, where a constant shifting around actually sends a bad message. walk victor falk talk 13:38, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
- That people have a tendency to act like children is generally true, which is why the best option is to simply take the toy away rather than allow them to continue to bicker over who gets to play with it. That was partly the reason we removed the infobox to a sub-template in the first place - to prevent the constant drive-by additions/subtractions/reordering of combatants/leaders (or at least make them more difficult to do). Parsecboy (talk) 14:01, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, that can work. But then the whining will be about why the WWII box is different from all the others, why can't it be like the others, and then you spend your time explaining instead of editwarring. Which in my POV is entirely sterile blather, while editwars can result in actually positive results, especially if one tries to keep a constructive attitude. walk victor falk talk 14:11, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
- That people have a tendency to act like children is generally true, which is why the best option is to simply take the toy away rather than allow them to continue to bicker over who gets to play with it. That was partly the reason we removed the infobox to a sub-template in the first place - to prevent the constant drive-by additions/subtractions/reordering of combatants/leaders (or at least make them more difficult to do). Parsecboy (talk) 14:01, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
- Wow that's strange, you actually restored my comment and I can't find an individual diff of me adding it. About the matter, this goes with my opinion that it's in human nature to actively seek such things to bicker about. Deflecting them to argue about the relative ordering of Mexico and Luxembourg acts as foil, leaving the much more important top of the list stable, where a constant shifting around actually sends a bad message. walk victor falk talk 13:38, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, here was the second time. But yes, I was there when we decided to just use the links to the main articles. There were constant arguments over ordering combatants, whether more than just the 5 and 3 should be included (since, for instance, Australians and Canadians would periodically come by to point out that they were independent dominions, and thus shouldn't be lumped in with Britain - or the frequent "You're including FRANCE? They surrendered after 6 weeks of fighting! Then you must include 'my favorite country' too!" line of argument), and so forth. We eventually concluded that the only way to stop the endless, pointless arguments was to limit it strictly to the main lists. Parsecboy (talk) 13:16, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
- Did I? It was some combination of saving without previewing and closing the wrong tab. So you were there during the transition from 5+3 to 0? From what I understand from the archives, it was due to constant bickering over whether France or China were to have to fourth place, if alphabetical was better, and whether "Soviet Union" or "USSR" should be used if so, or chronological date of entry in the war, and such. walk victor falk talk 12:31, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
- I wasn't sure, because you did it twice. Nevertheless, no, I wasn't still active on the WWII page by 2010 - I left probably around 2008 because it wasn't worth my time engaging in the constant arguments (only some of which were over the infobox). Parsecboy (talk) 12:02, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
- I know all that, sometimes you just slip. Can I ask you some questions, since you're here anyway? Were you an active editor on that page in 2010? How was the transition then if you were there? walk victor falk talk 20:58, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
Apology
I have restrung my "vote" at Talk:Afghan Girl and needed to move one of your comments as a result, dif I hope that's OK with you and admit it was my error in putting my "vote" at the bottom of the discussion rather than in the poll. Andrewa (talk) 16:40, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
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Republic of Ireland
Victor, as far as I can see you are unfamiliar with the nomenclature of the Irish state, so really you should accept that when seven editors – Irish, British and others – tell you that "Republic of Ireland" is correct and it would be wrong to change it, it means that it is correct and it would be wrong to change it. There is nothing wrong with asking questions on talk pages like the Irish Collaboration project, but if you are the neophyte and the respondents are the people who have been working on these articles over the years, it's not courteous to continue to ignore what they are saying.
FYI, although you may have been told that the state is not officially called the Republic of Ireland, that is not true. By the statute of the Irish legislature that has been linked to several times on that page, Republic of Ireland is the description of the state, "description" meaning what the state may be called. Although ROI is used less often, both officially and unofficially, than the constitutional name Ireland, it is no less official for that.
Can I ask you, as a favour, not to intervene in the discussion again, just allow it to take its course and abide by the result? Scolaire (talk) 13:45, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
France, WWII-related GAN
Hi Victor,
I've seen your contributions to French WWII-related articles recently. I've got French prisoners of war in World War II (a fairly important subject in the topic) up for GAN and am looking for a reviewer. Don't suppose it would interest you? Brigade Piron (talk) 11:25, 22 May 2014 (UTC)