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::I like the "Call to arms" idea, and why only Huggle? What about all the people using Twinkle and "Restore this version" and all the other options. I think that [[User:K6ka]] has been maintaining the metric, BTW. '''<font style="text-shadow:0em 0em 0.75em #B87333;">[[User:Supernerd11|Supernerd11]] <font color="9F000F">:D</font> [[User talk: Supernerd11|Firemind]] <font color="9F000F">^_^</font> [[Special: Contributions/Supernerd11|Pokedex]]</font>''' 22:01, 18 April 2014 (UTC) |
::I like the "Call to arms" idea, and why only Huggle? What about all the people using Twinkle and "Restore this version" and all the other options. I think that [[User:K6ka]] has been maintaining the metric, BTW. '''<font style="text-shadow:0em 0em 0.75em #B87333;">[[User:Supernerd11|Supernerd11]] <font color="9F000F">:D</font> [[User talk: Supernerd11|Firemind]] <font color="9F000F">^_^</font> [[Special: Contributions/Supernerd11|Pokedex]]</font>''' 22:01, 18 April 2014 (UTC) |
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:::I do sort of think that the template is somewhat biased. [[WP:HG|Huggle]] isn't the only anti-vandalism tool out there. [[WP:TW|Twinkle]] and [[WP:STiki|STiki]] are huge ones that catch quite a bit too. And of course, [[User:ClueBot NG|ClueBot NG]], the best vandal fighter that doesn't need to eat, sleep, or carry out the functions we humans need to perform to stay alive. |
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:::The call to arms idea is pretty cool, and it apparently tells the outside world just how seriously we treat vandal-fighting as. With VoxelBot, however, the template merely shows how much vandalism is coming into the wiki, and how much of it is being reverted by Huggle, with CBNG, Twinkle, STiki, and all the other anti-vandalism tools excluded. Not really fair, right? |
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:::Change is welcome, and it would be nicer if the template was a bit more accurate on how much vandalism was going on and whether rollbackers and sysops need to get on or not. Getting a new bot to do the task would be nice as well. For now though, it feels great to have my username displayed on thousands of pages across Wikipedia :D --'''[[:User:K6ka|k6ka]]''' ([[:User_talk:K6ka#|talk]] | [[:Special:Contributions/K6ka|contribs]]) 13:11, 19 April 2014 (UTC) |
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Another Template
This doesnt fit in the template catagory because its abotu a template for sometihng else. I created a template using most of the vandalism code and the vandalism images exept it doesn trelate to vandalism. It is a wiki "Community Defcon Meter". It shows the possibilty of hostilities worldwide based on the communities input. It is recomended that DEFCON levels only be changed in major events or series of events. The page for it is at User:Npop/www .
Simple inline template
How to use:
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Normal levels detected.<>
Code: {{User:flyingidiot/tinyWdefcon|showsig=no|showinfo=no}}
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Normal levels detected.--Message:23:10, 28 December 2024 (UTC):3.55 RPM according to EnterpriseyBot<>
Code: {{Wdefcon|prefix=User:flyingidiot/tiny}}
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Normal levels detected.--Message:Not connected to WDEFCON SMS server.:<>
Code: {{User:flyingidiot/tinyWdefcon}}
Wonder if anyone still reads this
Level 5 not showing?
I've just noticed that even when Voxelbot updates it to level 5 vandalism (low), the templates still show it as 4 (normal). Example: here Voxel says and changes it to level 5 here but the templates clearly show level 4. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 17:14, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
- Template:WikiDefcon/levels (which this template calls) was using a passed in value of 1 or less for level 5, while VoxelBot is passing in 2. I edited the template to match what VoxelBot is doing. Mojoworker (talk) 01:00, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks, I've changed the documentation page too. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 07:09, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
New Metric
Before VoxelBot came along, this template was updated manually. It was used as a call to arms. When someone was patrolling and found themselves unable to keep up with the vandalism, they would increase the level, as a request for other patrollers to come online. Subsequently, were a patroller unable to find much vandalism, either due to the lack of it, or because others were reverting it faster, the level would be decreased, to show that the vandalism was under control.
Since VoxelBot, the template has been tied to how much vandalism has been reverted. However this could be because of the level of vandalism, or the level we are catching it at. Essentially, when we get a high level on the template, we are by definition already on top of it. Because of this, many users, including myself, have stopped using this template as a means of determining when to patrol.
VoxelBot has not been restarted since it was automatically migrated on the wikimedia labs, due to inaction of the operators. I have taken this opportunity to propose that we change the metric used (and bot if necessary). I have recorded data over Tuesday night, which should be representative of the range 2-4 on this template. (From my experience.) There are mainspace edits (EPM), reverts (RPM) and ClueBot NG's sum of vandal scores (CVS), all per minute.
- This chart shows the data, including some derivations.
- This chart shows the moving average of five from the above chart, less the minimum and maximum.
- You can view these values live, with this visualisation.
I invite a discussion on the future of this template. 930913(Congratulate) 14:14, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
- It's a useful display for anyone uncertain whether to pile in on vandalism work, but only if kept updated 24/7 by the bot, which for the past 2 weeks it hasn't been. Do people making manual changes to the numbers not realise that levels over 5 are not recognised and display as Level 1?: Noyster (talk), 15:42, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
- I like the "Call to arms" idea, and why only Huggle? What about all the people using Twinkle and "Restore this version" and all the other options. I think that User:K6ka has been maintaining the metric, BTW. Supernerd11 :D Firemind ^_^ Pokedex 22:01, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
- I do sort of think that the template is somewhat biased. Huggle isn't the only anti-vandalism tool out there. Twinkle and STiki are huge ones that catch quite a bit too. And of course, ClueBot NG, the best vandal fighter that doesn't need to eat, sleep, or carry out the functions we humans need to perform to stay alive.
- The call to arms idea is pretty cool, and it apparently tells the outside world just how seriously we treat vandal-fighting as. With VoxelBot, however, the template merely shows how much vandalism is coming into the wiki, and how much of it is being reverted by Huggle, with CBNG, Twinkle, STiki, and all the other anti-vandalism tools excluded. Not really fair, right?
- Change is welcome, and it would be nicer if the template was a bit more accurate on how much vandalism was going on and whether rollbackers and sysops need to get on or not. Getting a new bot to do the task would be nice as well. For now though, it feels great to have my username displayed on thousands of pages across Wikipedia :D --k6ka (talk | contribs) 13:11, 19 April 2014 (UTC)