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Hooglandse Kerk
I propose changing the foto of the Hooglandse Kerk. The current foto seems overexposed.
Foto's
- Current Foto
- candidate 1
- candidate 2
Any preferences or concerns about making this change? PeteBobb (talk) 17:43, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
- Go ahead, I trust your judgement! In future, please add comments and questions to the bottom, not the top of the page. Also, for a specific question like this, you should put your question on the talk page of the object in question, and if you don't get a response within a few weeks or so, just be bold and change it. Jane (talk) 20:17, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
Rutger Hauer missing
Sorry, I don't know how to fix this, but I noticed that Rutger Hauer is missing from the Dutch actors category page here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Dutch_actors — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.240.122 (talk) 23:26, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- He is in [[Category:Dutch film actors]] which is a subcategory of [[Category:Dutch actors]]. SpeakFree (talk) 16:29, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
Word origin question
I'm wondering if anybody that speaks Dutch could comment on the origin of the name of a local creek called the Poesten Kill. Kill is obviously old Dutch for creek, but I have conflicting evidence regarding the first part of the name. One of the sources states that Poesten means "frothy", "foamy", or "bubbly" in old Dutch. (The other source says it comes from the name of a local farmer, which is probably more likely.) Can anyone comment on whether or not they're familiar with the word poesten meaning frothy (or anything else, for that matter) in Dutch? upstateNYer 23:01, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
- Kill is indeed a old word, it isn't used anymore in the Dutch language and I don't know what Poesten means, I actually have never heard about it before, because there is no such word (in modern Dutch). Steppler 15:17, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply! upstateNYer 00:44, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
- Kil is still used in some geographic names e.g. Sluiskil and Dordtsche Kil. SpeakFree (talk) 16:34, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- My 'thick Van Dale' dictionary says that 'Poesten' means 'blazen' or 'hijgen', which translate to the English 'blow' or 'panting'.
- But, please note that I had to look in the dictionary to find this definition.
- Trying to free associate, a panting horse could be foaming at the mouth, leading to a meaning of 'frothy' or 'foamy'...
- I hope that this helps...
- PeteBobb (talk) 21:45, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
Dutch knighthoods
A while back, somebody depopulated the Category:Dutch knights, removing baseball players Sidney Ponson, Calvin Maduro, and Gene Kingsale, all of whom have received the Order of Orange-Nassau, in the grade Knight. The edit summary said "A decoration is not a knighthood." Soon afterward, the Category:Dutch knights was deleted for being empty.
Can anyone clarify whether it is correct to refer to members of the Order of Orange-Nassau, in the grade Knight, as "Dutch knights"? Thanks. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:40, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- Yes the order of O-N is a dutch knighhood. See Category:Orders of knighthood of the Netherlands
- However I would not support creation of a category Dutch knights as there are thousands (if not tens of thousands) knights in the Netherlands (especially in the orders of Oranje-Nassau and the Netherlands Lion. Arnoutf (talk) 16:23, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
Minor cleanup needed at Dutch Virgin Islands
I Google-Translated the article Dutch Virgin Islands from nl.wiki, but there were a few things that I couldn't quite clear up. A couple are marked with [clarification needed] tags, and one is shielded as hidden text (visible only when editing). I'd appreciate any help from Dutch speakers in fixing those last bits. MatthewVanitas (talk) 05:13, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Help translating nl:Senegambia (17e eeuw) (Dutch Senegambia?)
The article nl:Senegambia (17e eeuw) seems notable (though not totally sure what to call it in English). It's short, but somehow the way it's written makes it nigh-incomprehensible in GoogleTranslate. If any Dutch speaker wants to take a stab at it, it may be worth having on en.wiki. MatthewVanitas (talk) 05:46, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
- Hello Matthew. I'm working on the translation and I've called the article Senegambia (Dutch West India Company). Feel free to change this if you consider it wise. Because English is not my native tongue it can't be expected that the translation will be perfect grammarwise. Needless to say that I welcome any improvements made. Cheers, --Antiphus (talk) 09:04, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
- Glad to hear you're on it! I've redirected my term above to your new article. Just ping me if you'd like a native English speaker to do a cleanup at the end of your translation. MatthewVanitas (talk) 09:40, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
Worth expanding Ruit van Bonjol?
Is Ruit van Bonjol worth expanding, or should I just go ahead with the deletion? There's a nl.wiki article and a nice pic, but is it worth having? Oh, and should I have a better English title? MatthewVanitas (talk) 07:45, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
Translation of Chinezenmoord?
I ran across this article on nl.wiki and gTranslated the lede to at least get a stub going. Also found a pic on Google and uploaded it. This seems like a really engaging topic, maybe worth translating more of the nl.wiki article? MatthewVanitas (talk) 09:42, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
Links to Dutch Wikipedia
I have had two battles regarding links from the English language Wikipedia to articles in the Dutch language Wikipedia. In both cases, other editors have attempted to revoke the links that I placed in the list of winners of the Elfstedentocht to the Dutch articles where, in my judgement, there would never be an English language article. Do members of this group have any comments?
BTW, I am half Dutch and half English by parentage, but having been taught Afrikaans at school will never have the ability to write in Dutch (though I can read it). Martinvl (talk) 20:21, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
- Links to Wikipedia articles on other language Wikipedias are allowed per WP:ILL. Naturally, should an article in English be written, the link should be amended to point at that article. Mjroots (talk) 08:32, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Translation help needed please
I'm currently working on a Dutch windmill article in my sandbox. In the mill is a poem by the mill's builder. As the mill was built in 1821 the poem is out of copyright by now, so I've quoted it in full. What I need help with is translating it into English. Is there any editor willing to assist with this? Mjroots (talk) 08:37, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks to Uchucha, the poem was translated and the article created at Rispenserpoldermolen, Easterein. Mjroots (talk) 18:47, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
WP 1.0 bot announcement
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Help required from Dutch speakers
While updating the article on Lipke Holthuis, I came across a link to a photo of him, which I would like to include in that article. Could a Dutch speaker please confirm that "Het beeldmateriaal is rechtenvrij en in hoge resolutie te downloaden" does indeed mean that the images are available under a free license (presumably {{PD-author}}), and offer an opinion as to whether that applies to the photo of Prof. Holthuis, or merely to the images on the linked page. Thanks. --Stemonitis (talk) 08:15, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- "Het beeldmateriaal is rechtenvrij en in hoge resolutie te downloaden" does mean that the images are available under a free license, I assume that you can use their pictures. Steppler 15:10, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
- Minor note: it actually mean the images/video's are licence free and downloadable in high resolution --Pereant antiburchius (talk) 20:00, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
Hardingsveld FC
My father went on a football tour in 1968 with an English amateur club called Didcot Town and played a club called Hardingsveld, I am looking for some information on this club so that we can contact them. If you can help that would be really appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.212.75.70 (talk) 11:17, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
- Not sure if you still need this (one year later), but here goes: V.V. Hardinxveld, Sportcomplex Sluisweg, Postbus 139, 3370 AC Hardinxveld-Giessendam; info(at)vvhardinxveld.nl. Whaledad (talk) 00:21, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
FYI - A massive discussion is taking place at a Request for comment (RfC) Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Biographies of living people. About 50k of articles are currently unreferenced and therefore in danger of deletion, some of those are on Dutch subjects. I have added the proper template on the main page to have a bot generate the cleanup list after some days (hopefully). The cleanup link in the title above (now a redlink) will then point to a list of unreferenced articles with the WikiProject Netherlands template on its talk page. Please revise articles on the list, when possible,
- review them for contentious unsourced information pr WP:BLP concerns
- add references (you may e.g. lift references from the Dutch page, if that page exists)
- remove the {{BLP unsourced}} template from the article.
We need a lot of hands for this. Thank you. Power.corrupts (talk) 12:20, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
This article is being considered for deletion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oscar van Dillen (2nd nomination). Your comments would be welcome. Thank you. --Jubilee♫clipman 03:22, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
GA reassessment of Indonesian National Revolution
I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found some concerns which you can see at Talk:Indonesian National Revolution/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 18:46, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Assistance needed with articles on Dutch ships and naval officers
Hi there, I am currently working on a draft article of Battle of Camperdown and need some urgent help with articles on Dutch warships and naval officers, with the redlinks outlined at User:jackyd101/Workbox7. I know that a number of the required articles have their equivalents on Nederlands wikipedia and I am leaving this notice in several places in the hope that someone can help me. If you are able to translate Dutch and willing to work on this then please drop me a line on my talk page and I'll explain more specifically which articles I need the most (I can handle the required articles on British ships and officers myself, its just the Dutch I'm struggling with). Regards--Jackyd101 (talk) 19:39, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
Featured article candidacy for Dutch 1913 battleship proposal now open
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GA reassessment of Tiësto
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maps of the Dutch Empire up for deletion
FYI, several maps of Dutch Imperial possessions have been sent for deletion at WP:FFD
See Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2010 March 21
76.66.194.32 (talk) 04:22, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
FAR
I have nominated Adriaen van der Donck for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here.YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 03:57, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
The lead states: "'The name "RaRa" is said to also mean "Guess who I am" in Dutch'". I absolutely fail to see how "RaRa" can be construed to mean "Guess who I am" in Dutch, or how anyone can get such a weird idea. What is going on there? 80.135.34.101 (talk) 03:23, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
- In the 1950's, when I was a child and the family lived in South Africa, my father (who was Dutch) taught me a game in which the players chant "Ra ra ra wie heeft de ball?". I had never been taught the meaning of "Ra ra ra", but I always udnerstood the meaning of "wie heeft de ball?". Martinvl (talk) 05:27, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
- "Ra-" is the first part of the verb "raden". I have little doubt that that is where "ra" comes from. As for the first question, "RaRa" means "guess who I am" because the group's terrorist actions were a kind of a guessing game, a whodunit if you will. Hope this helps. Drmies (talk) 05:30, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
- The Afrikaans word for guess is raai. (Afrikaans is derived from the colloquial Dutch that was used in South Africa in the nineteenth and early twentieth century). Martinvl (talk) 07:50, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
- Right. Vernacular Dutch has "raaien." Drmies (talk) 14:56, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
- Actually we use the word "raden" in dutch. "Raden" means "Guess" Btw: a is pronounced as a. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.242.35.45 (talk) 19:43, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
- Right. Vernacular Dutch has "raaien." Drmies (talk) 14:56, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
- The Afrikaans word for guess is raai. (Afrikaans is derived from the colloquial Dutch that was used in South Africa in the nineteenth and early twentieth century). Martinvl (talk) 07:50, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
- "Ra-" is the first part of the verb "raden". I have little doubt that that is where "ra" comes from. As for the first question, "RaRa" means "guess who I am" because the group's terrorist actions were a kind of a guessing game, a whodunit if you will. Hope this helps. Drmies (talk) 05:30, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
Bill Vander Zalm translation to Dutch needed
I was surprised on a visit to this article today that there's no Dutch translation, although there's German, French and Finnish ones; Vander Zalm is perhaps the best-known of all Dutch Canadians; I've also posted this request at Dutch Wikipedia.....also, isn't there a village or town in the Rhine Delta called "Zalm" or "Zalm-am-Zee" or something similar? It's not in Dutch Wikipedia.....Skookum1 (talk) 17:04, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
Image:NetherlandsEmpire2.png
FYI, Image:NetherlandsEmpire2.png has been nominated for deletion. 70.29.208.247 (talk) 12:16, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons
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Some Dutch Wikipedia articles with no English articles
I found some that don't have English articles:
WhisperToMe (talk) 00:12, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
- There is a project page for this purpose at Wikipedia:WikiProject Intertranswiki/Dutch and I made a list of fy wiki articles with no English equivalent at Wikipedia:WikiProject Intertranswiki/Frisian/no-enlink. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 02:52, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
- On the flip side, Design 1047 battlecruiser has no corresponding nl article. :) —Ed (talk • majestic titan) 04:20, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you! I just went ahead and added the two to the lists :) WhisperToMe (talk) 10:25, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
- On the flip side, Design 1047 battlecruiser has no corresponding nl article. :) —Ed (talk • majestic titan) 04:20, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Talk:Dutch people
A Request for Comments which may be of interest to this Wikiproject is waiting for your input at Talk:Dutch people#RfC on how to define the Dutch as an ethnic group, and what to include. Fram (talk) 07:08, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Help looking for Dutch book
Perhaps this is the wrong place to ask for this kind of help - and I know this does not directly relate to the Netherlands WikiProject, but I was hoping someone might be able to access a book locally and help me with a citation for an article. I am looking for the book Albumdossier: 1969-2002 by Johan van Slooten, a book that does not appear to be in print anymore and is not available in the United States. I wish to know the page number of the book that has information about a U2 album called Achtung Baby, specifically a page that states what the album's charting peak was. I apologize if this request is misplaced, but I figured someone from the Netherlands might be involved in this project and be able to access the book at their local library. Thanks for your understanding. Y2kcrazyjoker4 (talk) 14:07, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
I used a Dutch source to confirm that what was in Wikipedia was wrong. Wikipedia was only corroborated by itself and mirror sites. Other sources which I plan to add had a different version. Only the Dutch source confirms that Wikipedia's statement is a myth.
I was advised to ask a native speaker to confirm what an online translation suggested.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 15:46, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
- O sorry, did n't realise you would take the ENKA case there; I thought you would post future requests here. My provided translation was done by myself not a machine. Don't worry, your interpretation of the Dutch source is correct. Arnoutf (talk) 10:17, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Opinion needed
Was the Courante published in the "Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation (The Netherlands)" or in the "Dutch Republic (The Netherlands)"? See Talk:List of newspapers by establishment date#Which country? Gun Powder Ma (talk) 12:36, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
- The holy roman empire lost about all authority over the Netherlands in the 14th century, so a newspaper published in 1618 would fall outside of that political entity. See further comments on talk. Arnoutf (talk) 13:35, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
race riots?
In the article on Culemborg there is talk of violent race riots. Since I live there and am also a member of the local fire brigade (so I guess I have some insight in the matter) I think the world 'riots' implicates much and much more than actually happened. Yes, there were tensions, yes, there were fights, yes, there were cars on fire. But if it is on a scale of 3 or 4 streets and an area that can be walked through in 2 minutes I feel the term 'riot' is a gross exaggeration. Especially compared to real riots like in Miami or Paris suburbs both some years ago. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.213.47.11 (talk) 07:34, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Opera in the Netherlands
Hi all. I'm a member of WP:WikiProject Opera and I have noticed that our coverage of opera in the Netherlands is rather poor. We have an articles on De Nederlandse Opera and its theatre, Stopera, which was established after World War II. However, opera was performed in Amsterdam for several hundred years before that, and there are no articles on any opera houses/theatres from before the construction of the Stopera, which only opened in 1986. Also, we could use articles on other current opera companies in other cites, like the Nationale Reisopera in Enschede, the Stichting Opera Groningen, and Opera Zuid in Maastricht. Any help would be appriciated.4meter4 (talk) 18:54, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Moving of (politician) articles.
Is there some local guideline reason for these page moves from Joost van Citizen (politician) to Joost van Citizen (XYZ Party), which seem to now be against the WP:QUALIFIER naming convention? The-Pope (talk) 12:46, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Request for help on Dutch single charts
Maybe one or more of you good people could shed some lights onto the various singles charts in your country. Please see this discussion over at WP:CHARTS. Many thanks in advance. – IbLeo(talk) 14:30, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Pronunciation
Foreign names can be tough to pronounce, could anyone record audio files of the names of these political leaders:
- Job Cohen
Femke Halsema- Alexander Pechtold
- Emile Roemer
- André Rouvoet
- Mark Rutte
- Kees van der Staaij
- Marianne Thieme
- Maxime Verhagen
- Geert Wilders
Thank you, JamesBrownIsDead (talk) 11:21, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Are these still needed? I can help. Whaledad (talk) 19:30, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
Netherlands articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release
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Is 2010 Dutch forummers hurricane season for real?
I readily admit I am no expert on the Netherlands, but somebody who is should take a long hard look at this article. It is entirely unsourced and mentions an area of the Netherlands that I cannot find any mention of anywhere on Wikipedia. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place, but frankly I have never heard of hurricanes being so far north. Any help/input would be appreciated. Beeblebrox (talk) 01:48, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Speed Skating
I figure since the Netherlands performs well at Speed skating, that there might be editors here interested in a WikiProject for the sport. If there are any, I created a proposal where you can vote to support or oppose the creation of such a project! See it here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Speed Skating. Forgive me if this is inappropriate! Cheers, oncamera(t) 04:20, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
Any input at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Weepul would be useful. Thanks, — Scientizzle 01:08, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
WikiProject cleanup listing
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Frikandellen Link
Hello,
I have never suggested an edit before, so I am not sure how one goes about that, but I saw on the link for Frikadellen that it says it was invented in 1959:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frikandel
I just stumbled onto an old "Dr. Oetker's Schulkochbuch" that has a reference to Frikandellen (I think it is the 1920 edition) on page 64. It's in parenthesis after a reference to "Dämpfschnitte."
The copy I got is missing the copyright page, but it has 144 pages, and I saw that # of pages mentioned on a Library of Congress page for the 1920 edition. The later editions, such as the ones in the 1930s had more pages.
I know this cookbook predates 1959 because the cover is in Kurrentschrift and the text is in Fraktur, which was pretty much obliterated from the German script after World War II.
Anyway, I think it was invented much earlier than the article suggests.
Cheers, Sheryl Zettner
- OK, you're mixing up the Netherlands (with their frikadel, respelled in 2005 to frikandel to better reflect common pronunciation)) and Germany (with their Frikadelle). These are different things. The German variant is a flattened meatball, the Dutch variant started out as a sausage-like meatball (invented in 1954 by Gerrit de Vries; in 1959 "perfected" by giving it a smooth surface by Jan Bekkers (now Jan Beckers)). Whaledad (talk) 19:28, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
Article reference
Hello. Is this web page from "De Tijd", "De Tijd (Netherlands)" or "HP/De Tijd"? Axl ¤ [Talk] 09:44, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- It is nl:De Tijd (België)/De Tijd (it would be good to rename the EN-Wiki article to "De Tijd (Belgium)" to avoid this confusion), a Belgian daily newspaper. Whaledad (talk) 19:22, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you. The web page is in Dutch, right? Axl ¤ [Talk] 09:04, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
- It might be Flemmish rather than Dutch, depending on how you define the differences between the two. In practice however there is very little difference between them, rather like UK and US English. Martinvl (talk) 11:59, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. Axl ¤ [Talk] 10:49, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
- It might be Flemmish rather than Dutch, depending on how you define the differences between the two. In practice however there is very little difference between them, rather like UK and US English. Martinvl (talk) 11:59, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you. The web page is in Dutch, right? Axl ¤ [Talk] 09:04, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
Importance Scale
Why does WikiProject Netherlands have not Importance Scale? It seems like it would really help a lot.--RayqayzaDialgaWeird2210Please respond on my talkpage, i will respond on your talkpage. 13:43, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
Lodewijk van den Berg
The article on Lodewijk van den Berg says that he "was a naturalized American and no longer a Dutch citizen" at the time he went to space (1985). The accompanying reference (with a dead link) states that "according to Dutch regulations a person automatically loses the Dutch nationality if he voluntarily accepted another nationality before April 1, 2003". But can that retroactively apply to Van den Berg's 1985 flight? Had he really lost his Dutch citizenship at the time he took up American citizenship? Or did he only lose his Dutch citizenship when the current law came into force, which afaik was after the space flight? 83.84.195.88 (talk) 14:07, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
- Actually, the text is incomplete. He lost his citizenship based on the Dutch Nationality Act of January 1, 1985. That act was amended in 2003, to create some exceptions. [1] Whaledad (talk) 14:28, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
Maarten Maartens
Just a question. Why isn't the article about Maarten Maartens within the scope of the WikiProject Netherlands? Since I wrote it, in 2009, I have always wondered why the WikiProject Netherlands has ignored it. He was Dutch and he was world famous in his time. The Netherlands should be proud of him! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sijtze Reurich (talk • contribs) 11:38, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
I have just put up a page on Bloeme Evers-Emden using the English-language sources available to me. I invite your editors to improve the article with Dutch-language sources as well. Thank you, Yoninah (talk) 16:50, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
What happened to them ?
I am looking for an information about a former Netherlands construction companty named Koninklijke Nederlandsche Maatschappij Voor Havenwerken which was an important international company of 1950s and 1960s. But the name of the company doesn't appear on web pages. I have a vague idea that the company may have merged to a Spanish company. But other than that, I have no idea of the company. Any information or even a hint appreciated. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 14:14, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
Werkgroepen Wikimedia Nederland
Hallo, mag ik even storen? Wikimedia Nederland gaat van start met nieuwe werkgroepen. Willen jullie misschien kijken op nl.wikimedia.org? Graag bedankt, --Ziko (talk) 14:59, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Opinion needed
Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates/United States Navy Band - Het Wilhelmus - Could a member of this WikiProject give insight into which instruments the anthem is generally played by? —James (Talk • Contribs) • 3:12pm • 05:12, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
Reimerswaal
Yesterday I proposed that the Reimerswaal article should be split into an article about the historic city and an article about the current municipality. I've just thought that I should note it here too, for example I don't know what (if any) naming conventions exist for articles about Dutch places. Thryduulf (talk) 16:43, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- I've now carried out this split and disambiguated almost every incoming link. There are a couple of templates that need updating though, Template:Single-column table row (and it's /doc page) and Template:Data Reimerswaal. I don't know how to fix these without breaking them though, sorry! Thryduulf (talk) 08:43, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- I suspect I have fixed the template. adding the article parameter to the data template fixed the others. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:37, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Article improvement project for Koninginnedag
Hi, I've been working to improve this article, which is presently a good article nominee, and I hope down the road to nominate for FA. I'd be grateful for reviewers, random comments, I'm not picky!--Wehwalt (talk) 13:34, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Well it says it is GA now. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:57, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- It is. It's now a Featured Article Candidate (for nomination, click here). Reviews and commenters would be very welcome.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:48, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
Split Cabinet Crisis 2006 into new article?
Hi, I recommended this split after reading the Second Balkenende Cabinet article. I thought the topic has enough complexity, context leading up to the cabinet dispute, and consequences to warrant the creation of a new article. This would make it easier for the reader to access the information from all sides - the cabinet perspective and Ayaan Hirsi Ali's perspective - without having to go through multiple pages. What do you guys think? Rabiddog51sb (talk) 00:56, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
Walraven van Hall
If anyone is interested, Walraven van Hall needs lots of work. Devcogneuro (talk) 19:12, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Request
I know this might sound odd, but is there anyone here who can translate a newspaper article for me (from the Haagsche Courant) that I might be able to use as sourcing? Nolelover Talk·Contribs 14:05, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
Renaming discussion regarding article Het Wilhelmus
The proposed renaming being discussed at Talk:Het Wilhelmus#Requested move may be of interest to members of WikiProject Netherlands. Favonian (talk) 08:14, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
List of dutch people, what qualifies as famous and notable?
I noticed in the movies section that dutch oscar winner Michael Dudok de Wit was missing so i added him to the list. I also added animator Paul Driessen and Marten Toonder but i put him in visual arts (since he is foremost a comic creator) But i also noticed no less then four porn actresses, maybe some of them could be called famous or notable, but i had never heard of them.
I would think the goal is a balanced list with people that are relevant in their field on a global scale. Looking at it like this, the four actresses might qualify, but how do you judge this? Peter wassink (talk) 19:34, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
- One way to judge the notability of the subject is to see how many hits the article gets and how many other articles link to it. If they get hardly any hits and have hardly any other links, they are clearly not notable and should be deleted. Martinvl (talk) 21:22, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
Pageview stats
After a recent request, I added WikiProject Netherlands to the list of projects to compile monthly pageview stats for. The data is the same used by http://stats.grok.se/en/ but the program is different, and includes the aggregate views from all redirects to each page. The stats are at Wikipedia:WikiProject Netherlands/Popular pages.
The page will be updated monthly with new data. The edits aren't marked as bot edits, so they will show up in watchlists. You can view more results, request a new project be added to the list, or request a configuration change for this project using the toolserver tool. If you have any comments or suggestions, please let me know. Thanks! Mr.Z-man 21:30, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
- Don't bother this project is as dead as the dodo (which you may notice was killed off by Dutch sailors). SpeakFree (talk)(contribs) 02:44, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
Cross-wiki vandalism at Hoenzadriel
I removed most obvious hoaxing from 92.65.235.195, the article needs a thorough check. NVO (talk) 02:48, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
Template:Dutch Railway station up for deletion
{{Dutch Railway station}} has been nominated for deletion as being unused. This is a boilerplate template used to create a Dutch railway station article. It is either supposed to be substituted or used as a preload when creating a new article.
Does you project have an article wizard that loads this as a preload? Or do you have instructions on how to create an article with a substitution boilerplate for creating such articles?
65.94.77.11 (talk) 04:26, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
Computing
Anything else here: Supercomputing_in_Europe? Thanks. History2007 (talk) 17:21, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
FA Nomination
1740 Batavia massacre, within this project's scope, has been nominated for featured article status at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/1740 Batavia massacre/archive1. Any feedback would be welcome. Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:50, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
Coordinates in Google Earth
Sometimes, no not sometimes anymore bur quite regularly, when I want to see where the object of the article is in Google Earth I get something else instead. Just now I was looking for the "1e Parkhavenbrug, Rotterdam, Nederland" and I ended on the first Parkhaven bridge also in Rotterdam. With the Canal of Drusus, SW of Arnhem in the Netherlands, I think it is somewhere there, because I ended on the Rijndijk near Westervoort in the Netherlands. This happens to me regularly not only here but all over Wikipedia, it might be possible that the canal of Drusus is next to the Rijndijk. But a dijk is a big long stretched heap of, normally clay with sometimes a stone covert base, and a canal is the opposite, it is what is leftover if you build two parallel dikes and you dig in between, or a long narrow hole in the ground with water in it, enough for a ship to float in. So please if you create a link to the position of the object of an article, CREATE one, and not borrow one from something else in the neighbourhood. that creates only confusion, and an encyclopedia is there to create clarity and enlighten people. Please stop turning this into a quiz.
Regards Rudolf O. Roffel
Gesina11 (talk) 21:14, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
WikiWomen's History Month
Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Netherlands will have interest in putting on events (on and off wiki) related to women's roles in Netherlands's history, society and culture. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch (talk) 22:11, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
- This project is quite inactive so there's not much chance you will get a response. But good luck with it anyways. SpeakFree (talk)(contribs) 10:35, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
- Ah, thanks for the update. You never know who might get inspired. Thanks for letting me know SpeakFree! SarahStierch (talk) 00:46, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
Citing Monumentenregister
Prompted by another editor's request, I created {{Cite Monumentenregister}} which can be used to easily create either full citations or inline links to the Monumentenregister database. I hope someone finds it useful. Best regards. --Muhandes (talk) 09:43, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
History of the Netherlands (1939–1945)
Somebody might want to take a look at recent edits to the article [2], [3], there appears to be some weirdness going on.VolunteerMarek 18:42, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
- Reverted and protected. That kind of information needs multiple reliable sources to confirm it – otherwise it sounds like a single very odd historian's thesis. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 21:11, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
hi everyone. I have proposed the merge of these two pages, acoording to the redirect that already exists on nl.wiki, and similar comments/evidences on the internet and also on a discussion page on fr.wiki. The merge has been proposed in parallel also on fr.wiki, it.wiki and es.wiki. the proposed main title would be stamppot (sorry Belgium :) )--Alexmar983 (talk) 12:28, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
- Hi, Sorry, I just realized I didn't even have this page on my watchlist. Looking at the articles, I vote to keep both. Euh, no offense to the Dutch, but given my choice, I would go for the Stoemp over the Stamppot in any restaurant any day. This is because in general I find Belgian cooking better. Ahum, that said, let me remind you that this is the ENGLISH Wikipedia, and we like to take care of the poor Belgians who are one of the rare European countries without a separate Wikipedia and as I type, no Wikimedia chapter. They tend to get hammered a lot at the Dutch Wikipedia, and this looks like a prime example. Even though Stamppot was started (supposedly) at the end of the siege of Leiden, I think merging this with the Belgian dish is downright wrong. When a country takes a culinary idea and brings it to new heights, this should be rewarded with a culinary Wikipedia page! Jane (talk) 05:40, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
New article: Rural parliament
I have started a new article which deals with the Dutch rural parliament, among others. Please review, contribute and expand. Additional quality refs highly welcome.Mais oui! (talk) 04:39, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
New article: Bernard Loder
Hello. Normally I don't add the banner of a wikiproject that I don't participate in to an article's talk page, but your scope indicates generally any article related to the Netherlands is within the scope. Bernard Loder was a justice on the country's supreme court for over a decade, represented the Netherlands at multiple maritime conferences, and served as a delegate to the 1919 Paris Peace Conference. I came across him while looking for missing article related to international law, in this case, judges in the list Judges of the Permanent Court of International Justice that did not yet have articles on the English Wikipedia. Nearly all of what you see now was taken by translating the German Wikipedia article on Loder, with changes made for grammer/meaning. Please take a look and see if you can provide any improvement. IMHO (talk) 01:06, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
New Portal: Portal:Amsterdam
Hello! I started Portal:Amsterdam. Would anyone be interested in adding content? WhisperToMe (talk) 03:00, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
Aegir-03s.jpg
file:Aegir-03s.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.92.180.225 (talk) 05:52, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
Dutch Mauritius
Is Talk:Dutch Mauritius and Talk:Governor of Dutch Mauritius a top-importance article to your project? As a minor colony, it seems strange to me that it's rated as such. -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 08:49, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, all locations surrounded by water are considered top importance. I would go further to state that locations formerly surrounded by water, such as Urk, should also have top importance. Jane (talk) 09:10, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
- So, should I mark New Amsterdam (due to the canal that cut the fortified town off from the rest of the island) and Dutch East Indies and Netherlands Antilles as top-importance articles for WPNETHERLANDS? (And any other articles I may find in my travels on WikiPedia) -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 12:24, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
- Why not? Personally I would judge those articles to be top-importance to this project, as they comprise actual land areas that belong to the Netherlands core corpus of history. In many cases, I would also judge certain Belgian towns (like Antwerp) to be of top importance to this project as well. There is no agreed policy on the importance grading system, BTW. Jane (talk) 16:57, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks. That's more generous than most WikiProjects out there, so that's why I asked. -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 21:22, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
- Why not? Personally I would judge those articles to be top-importance to this project, as they comprise actual land areas that belong to the Netherlands core corpus of history. In many cases, I would also judge certain Belgian towns (like Antwerp) to be of top importance to this project as well. There is no agreed policy on the importance grading system, BTW. Jane (talk) 16:57, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
- So, should I mark New Amsterdam (due to the canal that cut the fortified town off from the rest of the island) and Dutch East Indies and Netherlands Antilles as top-importance articles for WPNETHERLANDS? (And any other articles I may find in my travels on WikiPedia) -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 12:24, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
Belgian Dutch
The name of Belgian Dutch dialects is up for discussion, see talk:Belgian Dutch dialects -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 05:47, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
Aruban people, Curaçao people, Sint Maarten people
It's proposed to rename Category:Aruban people, Category:Curaçao people and Category:Sint Maarten people - see the discussion here. Le Deluge (talk) 20:30, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
Dutch monarchs move discussion
Please join in: Talk:Willem-Alexander of the Netherlands#Move discussion DBD 15:03, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
"Flanders topics" section
Hi - this section at the bottom on Belgian geography and government is misleading.
Zeelandic Flanders is part of the Netherlands, not Belgium (it's geographically in Flanders, but politically in the Netherlands). So linking it to the other Dutch provinces would be more meaningful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.82.203.75 (talk) 07:20, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
- If you are referring to the link to Zeelandic Flanders in the Template:Flanders topics, then it clearly states that it is a "Neighbouring and historical region", which is correct, so I don't see the problem. If you click on the link, it also states correctly that it is a region of the Netherlands. Are you objecting to the use of this template on that page? Or the lack of a similar Dutch template to place above it? The problem there is that the land mass does not match up with the Dutch provinces template, because Zeeland is much bigger. Jane (talk) 08:14, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Dutch boy bands
in the category Dutch boy bands there are only six mentioned. I have found reference to a 7th but don't know to link it:
87.112.98.46 (talk) 17:56, 2 July 2013 (UTC) Andrew
Dutch boy bands
in the category Dutch boy bands there are only six mentioned. I have found reference to a 7th but don't know to link it:
87.112.98.46 (talk) 17:56, 2 July 2013 (UTC) Andrew
Template:Dutch Language Union ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 08:48, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
Lof Der Zotheid 500jr Munt 2011.png
image:Lof Der Zotheid 500jr Munt 2011.png has been nominated for deletion and NFCC review, see Wikipedia:Possibly_unfree_files/2013_September_10 and WP:NFCR -- 70.24.244.158 (talk) 05:20, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Eleanor of Guelders.jpg
image:Eleanor of Guelders.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 70.24.249.39 (talk) 11:31, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Singer or actor?
Sorry to ask, but is Ron Link (entertainer) notable as a Dutch singer, or Dutch actor, or perhaps as a "television personality"? In ictu oculi (talk) 10:18, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry, no idea and I don't recognize him by face or name at all. Try posting your query in English on the Village pump on the Dutch Wikipedia ("De Kroeg"). Jane (talk) 13:41, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Stedelijk Museum, Amsterdam Project - please help!
Hi Wikipedians,
I'm a member of a Cornell University student project aimed at improving the quality of the Stedelijk Museum Amsterdam page, currently classified as a C-Class Article. Over the next week or so, myself and two others (Wdevriescornell and eas295) will be researching and updating the page, and we'd like your help. We would love it if you guys critiqued our edits and discuss them with us on this talk page if you disagree or think we can improve somehow. Because we're still learning and we will be graded on our work, please don't just delete or redact our changes without giving us an explanation why you did on the museum's talk page. If you're interested in helping us out, please add the Stedelijk Museum Amsterdam page to your Watchlist and feel free to post there or in my own personal talk page. We would really appreciate any help you can give!
IchiniSanti (talk) 01:55, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
Please create Quarles van Ufford
Hi. Can someone who speaks Dutch please translate this page into English? I've tried to do Google Translate, but it's really bad, here's the result: "The lineage begins with the coming of Norfolk William Quarles whose son John is listed as 1524 and that was in 1570, ships of the lake copper guild in London. A direct descendant , William ( † 1688), born in England, was in the service of the VOC , settled in the Netherlands and was in 1670 ships Schieland : he was the father of the Dutch branches : a grandson , William ( 1717 - 1781 ) , was the ancestor of the branch Baronale the Quarles Quarles , another grandson , Louis ( 1719-1781 ) , was the ancestor of the untitled noble branch Quarles van Ufford .
William Quarles the Quarles (1717-1781) was on October 14, 1751 elevated to Baron des HRRijks . On September 16, 1815 elevation followed in the Dutch nobility for various descendants of William ( † 1688) , according to the first nobility list was Pieter Willem Louis Quarles the Quarles ( 1758-1826 ) granting the title of baron at all ( while on the branch Quarles van Ufford deserve only the predicate ) .
Since 1992 belongs Alexandre Quarles van Ufford (1956 ) and his descendants to the Belgian nobility , he was a son of the Dutch ambassador Bryan Quarles van Ufford ( 1920-1975 ) who was married to the Belgian jkvr. Marie - Emilie van der Linden d ' Hooghvorst ( 1918-1991 ) ."
This sounds like gibberish to me--could you PLEASE retranslate it and create the page? Thank you. Please write on my talkpage if you can help.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:44, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
- Anybody? Please?Zigzig20s (talk) 19:50, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
The usage of Veterans Day (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and Veterans Day (disambiguation) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and Veterans Day (United States) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is under discussion, see talk:Veterans Day (United States).
Indirectly, this concerns also Veterans Day (Netherlands) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). -- 签名 sig at 08:19, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
The Blind Leading the Blind (Bruegel) Peer Review
Hello. Soliciting feedback and other help with the article for Pieter Bruegel the Elder's painting The Blind Leading the Blind. Any and all comments would be appreciated. I'm aiming this at FA, so feel free to split hairs. The review is here.Curly Turkey (gobble) 12:26, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
Query re volcano
The article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuidwal_volcano states that the 'extinct' volcano Zuidwal was discovered because of temperature differences at 2km depth, namely 130 deg where 100 was expected. I did geology at college a long time ago (47 years) so I may be wrong but the inference here is that magma is causing the temperature difference. At that depth I believe this should be more correctly designated 'dormant' if that is the case.
Reddogbarking (talk) 10:13, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
- In this case the volcano is last active in the Jurassic. So it is well and truly dormant with no magma. However temperature differences could be due to differences in heat conduction in different kinds of rocks. Perhaps the sedimentary rock is more insulating and the volcanic rock more conductive, drawing up heat from below. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:37, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
English exonyms for place names
English_exonyms#Netherlands. Can someone check this please. See also article Talk. Many thanks. In ictu oculi (talk) 04:09, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
- Which ones in particular do need to be checked? CRwikiCA talk 14:31, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
"Dutch Singers-songwriters" category
In the category "Dutch Singers-Songwriters" Ana Popovic is listed there too although she is Serbian and not Dutch. The category is not named "Dutch Bands" - if that was the case placing her there would possibly make sense since she formed a band in the Netherlands some years ago (she now lives in the US). I don't know, I just thought it's a bit odd really, any thoughts appreciated! — Preceding unsigned comment added by VasVel (talk • contribs) 19:39, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
One of your project's articles has been featured
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Vital articles
I've made a list of vital articles within the scope of this project: Wikipedia:WikiProject Netherlands/Vital articles. – Editør (talk) 15:30, 5 February 2014 (UTC)