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If we cover today's news' it should be within the context of a more general section on those who exited the church. -Nat Gertler (talk) 13:46, 27 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree -- there should be a section (maybe titled "Defections"?) taking about those family members who have left the church. There have been several over the years. T-bonham (talk) 10:32, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Let's assume we were working on an article on the Roman Catholic Church. We wouldn't have a list of those who left, though high-profile examples would crop up somewhere (Martin Luther and Henry VIII come to mind). We wouldn't say they "defected" from the Catholic Church. Yes, there has been coverage of some who have left Westboro. WP:WEIGHT is also a concern. A long laundry list of those who have left the church is no more useful than a long laundry list of those the church says their god hates. I'd say we need a brief section with well-sourced discussion, mentioning the higher profile people who have left. - SummerPhD (talk) 15:15, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There can't be a long laundry list on those who exit, because Westboro is a very small organization. --Nat Gertler (talk) 15:27, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Understood, but a brief list of fairly trivial material here is similar in value to an extensive list of fairly trivial material in another article. - SummerPhD (talk) 16:03, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I looked up the article to find a list of people who left over the last few years to get an insight how many people in relation to the remaining ones left and how old they were. I was rather disappointed to only find rather general remarks that are pretty much worthless. I'll now have to compile a list from the latest Louis Theroux piece and media reports. I'm pretty sure other people would like to have a list too, so I think this section should be expanded. This also makes sense since the people have a certain media status and are pretty known amongst those interested in the topic, especially thanks to the Theroux documentaries. And I disagree with SummerPhD. Such a list is very well useful. Comparing it to a religion that consists of a billion people is rather ridiculous. WBC has rather small and many members are well known due to media coverage, so people actually can relate the information to something. 77.7.232.56 (talk) 14:14, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Some people who have left the church have been discussed in independent reliable sources. Those we can include, to the extent that their inclusion does not violate WP:WEIGHT, WP:NOTPUBLICFIGURE and WP:BLP1E. Others will have left the church quietly; primary sources might document this, but we cannot include them. Without discussing those who fall in the middle, it is obvious we will not/cannot build a meaningfully complete list here. If such material as age at leaving is genuinely of interest to readers, reliable sources will discuss it. If not they won't. If they discuss it, we might. If they don't, we won't. - SummerPhD (talk) 18:41, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I came here looking for exactly this, so it's disappointing that it's not seen as notable enough. 90.216.207.183 (talk) 13:54, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I came to this article after reading a newspaper piece [1]which mentions that the founders granddaughters had left the church, having never heard of WBC before I looked then up and was surprised to find it was not mentioned here, I understand what SummerPhd is saying, in that a full list of people leaving is not possible, however she also states that "Some people who have left the church have been discussed in independent reliable sources. Those we can include" I am sure I am not the only person to believe that the founders grandchildren are significant people to have left and as it is discussed in other media then surely it should be included in the article? It would also appear that I am not the only one looking for this information. Amanda138a (talk) 01:01, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Again, please see WP:NOTPUBLICFIGURE and WP:BLP1E. Most of the people who are or were members of this church are and are likely to remain low-profile individuals. If they publish a book or run the talk show circuit, we might include material about them from high quality secondary reliable sources. People known only for having left the church are clearly a different story. Wikipedia exists to summarize what reliable sources say about a topic, not to gather and compile data. - SummerPhD (talk) 02:38, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

May I suggest, under the funeral picket section, Chief Justice William Rehnquist's funeral be added. Members picket his state funeral in 2005. Be a very notable man, I think it would be good to add this information. here are just a few references. http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Exclusive_Antigay_forces_protest_at_Rehnquist_death_celebra_0918.html It also mentions the picket in this article http://voices.yahoo.com/heath-ledger-funeral-picketed-controversial-839877.html. Thank you for the consideration. Boopydoo1234 (talk) 00:22, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

We're actually likely to be paring back on the listings of individual funeral pickets, per discussion above. (Sorry folks, been meaning to get to it, but juggling a lot of things at the moment.) --Nat Gertler (talk) 08:08, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

On the old page listing activities by the Westboro Baptist Church, there was a link to a news article about them sending a nasty letter to a dead child's parents. Shouldn't this be included in this article?--76.106.245.93 (talk) 01:24, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Only if it was given substantial coverage by independent reliable sources. - SummerPhD (talk) 02:05, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Would anyone here happen to have a link to what I'm talking about? Also, what happened to the separate page listing their activities?--76.106.245.93 (talk) 04:46, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Racial and political views of the Westboro Baptist Church was merged here back in 2006. See Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Racial_and_political_views_of_the_Westboro_Baptist_Church.. Finding a single item mentioned in this article at some unknown point in the past is a pretty tall order. You'd probably have an easier time using Google to find another source for it - SummerPhD (talk) 05:18, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No, it wasn't that one. It was an article listing all of their activities. Many of the claims were obviously made up, but this particular incident had an actual source.--76.106.245.93 (talk) 10:25, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I also recall the article recounting how they tried (and failed) to erect a public monument to Matthew Shepard having "entered Hell".--76.106.245.93 (talk) 04:06, 11 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Footnotes 60 - 62, as of today, note that the church did not protest at a funeral. This doesn't seem relevant to include things the members did not do. I will trim and allow discussion later under WP:BOLDPolkadreamer (talk) 15:59, 11 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I understand the unease people feel with deleting sourced material, yet the article is long on sources with protests that actually occurred. It should reflect events, not a lack of events.Polkadreamer (talk) 16:48, 11 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The significance applies where the church planned to picket a funeral and failed to do so. If this happens often enough it is (or can be) a notable failure on their part and may be a sign of waning influence. Britmax (talk) 08:30, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am curious as to how the "God hates Fangs" parody in the opening credits of True Blood is any more personal research than God hates Shrimp. This is clearly a parody of the "God hates Fags," and one that is prominent in popular media, being seen by millions of people. Since it a take on the Westboro Baptist placards with the edition of only an 'n'. The citation though not as formal as many is to a direct link to the opening credits, which clearly depicts the "God hates Fangs" parody.

Beyond the fact that the YouTube clip seems to be a clear copyright violation, it makes no reference to Westboro. While the other sites are a bit weak as far as secondary sources go, they at least have clear references to Phelps or the church. Even a brief chuckling comment about the opening shot and Phelps or Westboro in some published interview with someone involve with True Blood would be nice. Fat&Happy (talk) 20:40, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]