User talk:Isinbill: Difference between revisions
No edit summary |
Iñaki Salazar (talk | contribs) →"Afro-Dominican" vs. "Black Dominican": new section |
||
Line 205: | Line 205: | ||
|Hi '''{{ {{{|safesubst:}}}ROOTPAGENAME}}'''! I'm the Wikipedian In Residence at the [[World Digital Library]], a project of the [[Library of Congress]] and [[UNESCO]]. I'm recruiting Wikipedians who are passionate about history & culture to participate in improving Wikipedia using the WDL's vast free online resources. Participants can earn our awesome WDL barnstar and help to disseminate free knowledge from over 100 libraries in 7 different languages. Please sign up to participate [[Wikipedia:GLAM/WDL/Participants|here]]. Thanks for editing Wikipedia and I look forward to working with you! [[User:SarahStierch|SarahStierch]] ([[User talk:SarahStierch|talk]]) 22:20, 22 May 2013 (UTC) |
|Hi '''{{ {{{|safesubst:}}}ROOTPAGENAME}}'''! I'm the Wikipedian In Residence at the [[World Digital Library]], a project of the [[Library of Congress]] and [[UNESCO]]. I'm recruiting Wikipedians who are passionate about history & culture to participate in improving Wikipedia using the WDL's vast free online resources. Participants can earn our awesome WDL barnstar and help to disseminate free knowledge from over 100 libraries in 7 different languages. Please sign up to participate [[Wikipedia:GLAM/WDL/Participants|here]]. Thanks for editing Wikipedia and I look forward to working with you! [[User:SarahStierch|SarahStierch]] ([[User talk:SarahStierch|talk]]) 22:20, 22 May 2013 (UTC) |
||
|} |
|} |
||
== "Afro-Dominican" vs. "Black Dominican" == |
|||
The issue is that in the Dominican Republic is inconceivable to say that "Afro-dominicans" are an ethnic group. The article was written to portrait the North American point of view of the races and ethnics, following the "[[One drop rule]]", which claims that all offspring of an African will always be African, but not all offspring of an European is European. That has nothing to do with the Dominican situation, and is nonsense to apply that in this article. |
|||
I found remarkable that just 3 days ago, [[Listín Diario]], the major Dominican newspaper, published about this issue: [http://www.listindiario.com/puntos-de-vista/2013/5/23/278014/Dominicano-no-seas-un-color ¡Dominicano, no seas un color!] |
|||
This article is about a Dominican ethnicity and it must be about what is for Dominicans that ethnic, because ethnics are a social contruct, not like races that are a scientific and a genetic construct. There must be an article about black Dominicans and another one about multiracial Dominicans. [[User:Inhakito|<span style="color:black;"> ★ <span style="color:#0047AB;"><b>Nacho</b></span> ★ ]] [[File:Aiga mail.svg|22px|link=User talk:Inhakito|Mailbox]] ★ </span> 21:24, 26 May 2013 (UTC) |
Revision as of 21:24, 26 May 2013
Welcome!
Hello, Isinbill, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
- The five pillars of Wikipedia
- Tutorial
- How to edit a page and How to develop articles
- How to create your first article (using the Article Wizard if you wish)
- Manual of Style
I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{helpme}}
before the question. Again, welcome!
Talk:United States
It is never okay to edit someone else's comments, except to remove a personal attack. Please do not do it again. --Golbez (talk) 23:27, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
April 2010
Please do not replace Wikipedia pages with blank content, as you did to the page User talk:78.48.103.92. Blank pages can confuse readers, and are overall not helpful to the Wikipedia project; furthermore, blanking a page is not the same as deleting it.
If the article you blanked is a duplicate of another article, please redirect it to an appropriate existing page. If the page has been vandalized, please revert it to the last legitimate revision. If you feel that the content of a page is inappropriate, please replace it with appropriate content. If you believe there is no hope for the page, please use the appropriate deletion process. Zhang He (talk) 23:38, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Your recent edits
Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you. --SineBot (talk) 13:19, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
Autopatrolled
Hello, this is just to let you know that I have granted you the "autopatrolled" permission. This won't affect your editing, it just automatically marks any page you create as patrolled, benefiting new page patrollers. Please remember:
- This permission does not give you any special status or authority
- Submission of inappropriate material may lead to its removal
- You may wish to display the {{Autopatrolled}} top icon and/or the {{User wikipedia/autopatrolled}} userbox on your user page
- If, for any reason, you decide you do not want the permission, let me know and I can remove it
- If you have any questions about the permission, don't hesitate to ask. Otherwise, happy editing! Acalamari 16:29, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Welcome toWikiProject United States
I just wanted to say welcome to the project. --Kumioko (talk) 22:26, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
May 2011 Newsletter for WikiProject United States
The May 2011 issue of the WikiProject United States newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.
.--Kumioko (talk) 02:20, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
WikiProject United States History
Greetings, It was recently suggested that WikiProject United States History might be inactive or semiactive and that it might be beneficial to include it in the list of projects supported by WikiProject United States.
I have started a discussion and will contact each of the active members for their comments and input on the suggestion. Please take a moment and add your comments to the discussion or feel free to contact me if you have any questions. --Kumioko (talk) 19:43, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
US National Archives collaboration
United States National Archives WikiProject | |
---|---|
|
July 2011 Newsletter for WikiProject United States
The July 2011 issue of the WikiProject United States newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.
--Kumioko (talk) 01:08, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
September 2011 Newsletter for WikiProject United States
The September 2011 issue of the WikiProject United States newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.
--Kumioko (talk) 21:18, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for your editing and contributions to the Pedro de Ibarra page. We were pleased to find it and link it to our page. --Alvaro_Mexia (talk) 00:46, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
New Page Patrol survey
New page patrol – Survey Invitation Hello Isinbill! The WMF is currently developing new tools to make new page patrolling much easier. Whether you have patrolled many pages or only a few, we now need to know about your experience. The survey takes only 6 minutes, and the information you provide will not be shared with third parties other than to assist us in analyzing the results of the survey; the WMF will not use the information to identify you.
Please click HERE to take part. You are receiving this invitation because you have patrolled new pages. For more information, please see NPP Survey |
November 2011
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to the encyclopedia, one or more of the external links you added to the page Portuguese Argentine do not comply with our guidelines for external links and have been removed. Wikipedia is not a collection of links; nor should it be used as a platform for advertising or promotion, and doing so is contrary to the goals of this project. Because Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the article's talk page before reinserting it. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. andy4789 ★ · (talk? contribs?) 19:24, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
December 2011 Newsletter for WikiProject United States
The December 2011 issue of the WikiProject United States newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.
--Kumioko (talk) 02:44, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
January 2012 Newsletter for WikiProject United States and supported projects
The January 2012 issue of the WikiProject United States newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.
--Kumi-Taskbot (talk) 19:06, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
List of Puerto Ricans
Sorry, but the instructions clearly state that "each addition to the list must also provide a reliable verifiable source which cites the person's notability and/or the person's link to Puerto Rico, otherwise the name will be removed." There are no exceptions and the rules apply to everyone. Therefore, the names of Deborah Aguiar-Vélez and John Rodriguez have been remmoved. You may add them once more with the references that are required. Tony the Marine (talk) 14:20, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Rudy Pérez
Hi, I have noticed you are the major contributor the article Rudy Pérez. I have found two major problems with this article in that it is not written in a neutral point of view, and some of the text is copied and pasted, with only very slight alterations to the wording. I would very much appreciate it if you can help me improve on the article. I would also recommend reading WP:NPOV and WP:C-P. Thanks! Kinkreet~♥moshi moshi♥~ 23:55, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
Talkback
Message added 01:49, 18 March 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Kinkreet~♥moshi moshi♥~ 01:49, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
Template:Peoples of the world has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Night of the Big Wind talk 12:41, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
Latin American music task force
Hello Isinbill! I've noticed your works on articles related to Latin American music. I would like to invite you to the Latin American music task force a collaborative effort which aims to create, expand, and maintain Latin American music-related articles. If you'd like to join, please sign up here. Thank you. Erick (talk) 23:21, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
WP:Latin music members
Hello, I posted a message on WP:Latin music about a future collaboration between all members to bring Latin music to FA status. Please join in the discussion :) Best, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 22:47, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
Classical music biographies
Please do not add infoboxes to articles on Classical musicians per Wikipedia:WikiProject Classical music#Biographical_infoboxes. Thank you.MisterCSharp (talk) 12:29, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
Nicaragua/Yemen
Thanks for editing the pages: Nicaraguan American and Yemeni-American. I will try to help making them better. Biol. Cons. (talk) 00:01, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Ethiopian American
wikipedia has many references that is not an excuse because all information must be referenced and verified as this is an encyclopedia. Just the fact that the history section needs references is what made that the label of references be placed in the article. All the information of wikipedia should be referenced. Meanwhile, Ethiopian students, most could have returned to Ethiopia but who emigrated because of war and poverty in their country are living in the United States until the situation in their country change, and are their descendants basically who founded the community of Ethiopian Americans. --Isinbill (talk) 02:09, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
- Correction: all information must be reliably and neutrally referenced. The fact remains, however, that everyculture.com is not a reliable source. It is self-published source, just like Wikipedia. As such, it makes no difference if the webpage is appended with references. Self-published sources in general are discouraged, especially with regard to material on living people (which would include Ethiopian Americans). Per WP:SPS:
Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 13:55, 11 September 2012 (UTC)Anyone can create a personal web page or pay to have a book published, and then claim to be an expert in a certain field. For that reason, self-published media, such as books, patents, newsletters, personal websites, open wikis, personal or group blogs, Internet forum postings, and tweets, are largely not acceptable as sources. Self-published expert sources may be considered reliable when produced by an established expert on the topic of the article, whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications.[1] Take care when using such sources: if the information in question is really worth reporting, someone else will probably have done so.[2] Never use self-published sources as third-party sources about living people, even if the author is an expert, well-known professional researcher, or writer.
Decemmber 8 - Wikipedia Loves Libraries Seattle - You're invited | |
---|---|
|
Nomination of Yakut American for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Yakut American is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yakut American until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article.
The article Angolans in Brazil has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
- modern-day migration appears non-notable in spite of common language; colonial past can be covered by Slavery in Brazil
Article was recreated after AfD deletion: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2008_December_23#Angolan_Brazilian. All accounts in favor of keeping were deemed sock puppets: Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Troy86.
While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}}
notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.
Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}}
will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. —rybec 05:01, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
Jean de Kindelan
Hi Isinbill - perhaps I can interest you in Jean de Kindelan as you have been the main editor of the Sebastián Kindelán y O’Regan article ?? Also, I have a need for an editor with excellent Spanish and perhaps good French to explore items that can be found via google but which I cannot understand well!! Jean de Kindelan (or Juan) was a Spanish Army Officer who served Napoleon in the Division of the North and was excluded from the plans to escape from Denmark in 1808 because of his pro-French opinions. ( We can easily read the Danish accounts!) Are you interested? or do you know of another Spanish speaker on English Wikipedia who might help? Thanks in advance Viking1808 (talk) 09:56, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
Lalo Rios
Thanks, it was just a random adding sources to bios. Sure, happy to help add more info In ictu oculi (talk) 14:31, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Eritrean Americans
Hi. Kindly stop revert warring on the Eritrean American article. Your unjustified removal of the collage and images is unacceptable and smacks of WP:GOAT. Please desist from this. I would also like to discuss with you the validity of the so-called "North African American" neologism. If we cannot come to an agreement on this, I will nominate the page for deletion. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 19:32, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- I do not think I'm doing any vandalism. I provided information that you deleted it and sustituiste other. However, one of the references that you used was the one I used for my information. You deleted it my information, and changed by another, using, among your sources, which I had used, when you could simply have deposited your information with mine without removing anything (why remove my information for re-inclusion you with your words?). I do not eliminated your contributions, which you you included after me, I just ask you to accept my contributions. You also say that my images are unacceptable, even having left three of the five that I included in the article. I really do not know what happens. And as the article of the North African Americans, I've just thought to call it North African in United States(this is just a topic that interests me and which I wanted to do an article).--Isinbill (talk) 19:44, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- Well, you changed the text to indicate that most Eritreans arrived in the 1980s, when they actually arrived in the 1990s. It was specifically during the 1965-1991 period when most Eritrean immigrants in the 1980s. The bulk of Eritrean Americans as a whole actually arrived later, following the civil Eritrean/Ethiopian conflicts. Regarding the images, you removed the collage I created and replaced it with individual images, including some of people who are only distantly of Eritrean ancestry, are not born in Eritrea, have never lived there, and are not really a part of the Eritrean community abroad either. You also removed the community center and restaurant pics. That said, I agree that renaming the North African American page would be an adequate solution. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 19:56, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- Now I'm not sure if I Should leave the answer here or on my page for you to read ... Qwanell Mosley and Nipsey Hussle, whose photos I included in the article, are people who have a parent Eritrean each. And I I repeat, you deleted it all the information I included to rewrite most of them with your words, basing on the same reference that I used. For that, it would have been better to accept my information, at least for the most part.--Isinbill (talk) 20:06, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- Actually, what you indicated in several instances differed from what the link says. The most conspicuous example of this was when you wrote that most Eritreans arrived during the 1980s, when the link actually states that most who arrived during the 1965-1991 period specifically came during the 1980s (as opposed to the 60s, 70s, or 1990-91). This was probably a mistake, but an error all the same. Also note that the link is on the Eritrean population in one city, not everywhere. The wiki English was also sub-par, so I rendered it more encyclopedic. As for those two gentlemen, they are only partially Eritrean, were not born in Eritrea, have never lived there, nor are they really part of the Eritrea community abroad. The purpose of the infobox image area is to show notable representatives of the community, not just any person, famous or otherwise, who happens to have some Eritrean ancestry. Middayexpress (talk) 20:22, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- Pictures of people that are only partially descended ethnic group speaks of an article (in the case of the pictures I got, 50%), located in the data box of the article, is something that is repeated in almost all wikipedia articles that talk about ethnic groups. That yu can see on items such as English American or German American. Furthermore, the fact that I've made some mistakes does not mean you have to remove all information that I included and re-write it for the most part, in the item, in other words.--Isinbill (talk) 20:35, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- Kindly stop arguing for the sake of arguing. Several bits of that material was actually wrong, as already explained. And yes, per WP:COMPETENCE, material should be written in proper English, and in a neutral, encyclopedic register, which I saw to. The fact that you didn't spell "North Africans in the United States" correctly only further demonstrates that proper English is an issue here. As for the pics, I never stated that peoples of partial ancestry should not be included on that basis alone. I said in my last line above that despite the fact that the gentlemen in question have some Eritrean ancestry, they are not representative of the community because they were not born in Eritrea, have never lived there, and are not really part of the Eritrean community abroad either. Ella Thomas, on the other hand, is representative because she was born in Eritrea and is an active part of the Eritrean diaspora as well. Also, please post your response if any here so that the discussion is all in one place. Middayexpress (talk) 20:49, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- No need to have been born or raised in the United States to be an Eritrean American, just that he descends from Eritreans, but has always lived in the U.S., as you put it in the introduction of the article.--Isinbill (talk) 20:57, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- With respect, that's a strawman. And for the second and last time, please remember to post any future responses here where the full discussion is found. No need to double post. Middayexpress (talk) 21:06, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- Ok. If it is true the that you said, I think it's good for article, delete the information I adhered on it, if that information was bad spelling and should be corrected it, so as to enhance the interpretation that I made on some points of the source on which I relied. While the source, although basically it speaking of Chicago, the beginning of the article talked about the reasons for the Eritrean emigration and showed some data on their migration in the United States in general. These data were the ones I took (not the data of Chicago, because before you said that the references only spoke of a place). As for the photos, although I accept them as they are now (as thou put it), I do believe that an American that is 50% Eritrean can also feel very connected to Eritrea and joined the Eritrean American population (many Americans that descending only a partial origin still feel part of that origin, even some celebrities). Just want to ask you a favor: When you delete the information that I include in an article, do you can send me a message telling me and explaining the reasons for the removal please?, because this should not take me by surprise and disappointment, to see how my contributions (if are many) are removed without explication. Regards. --Isinbill (talk) 23:38, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
- Actually, I did inform you of what was the problem in my edit summary, and was the only one to do so. I also started this talk page discussion, so I don't see what there is to be surprised about. At any rate, most of that link was on Eritreans in Chicago. Your redaction of it was incorrect in spots, as already explained, and I fixed that. There were also grammar and tone-related issues which I adjusted. Lastly, I never said that someone of 50% Eritrean ancestry cannot feel very connected to Eritrea. If that had been my argument, Ella Thomas obviously wouldn't have been included since she too has a non-Eritrean parent. The difference is that she is nonetheless representative of Eritreans in the States because she was born in Eritrea and is an active part of the Eritrean diaspora as well. She's not just someone who happens to have some Eritrean ancestry. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 14:04, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
- I wanted to clarify that I meant that I only used the information from the beginning of the article Eritreans of Chicago, from the source of the Encyclopedia of Chicago, where he talked about the reasons for the emigration Eritrean and some general information about your precensia in the U.S., I did not use more data from that reference. Although that was the only one I used (I understood how you thought I was saying have used various sources and you just saw that). As for the correcting my spelling and sentences of the article based on that reference, I said that I´m agree in your made changes in the article to that it can be understood better and have a better spelling in it. So I have nothing more to object to that effect. Regards,--Isinbill (talk) 17:30, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
- Actually, I did inform you of what was the problem in my edit summary, and was the only one to do so. I also started this talk page discussion, so I don't see what there is to be surprised about. At any rate, most of that link was on Eritreans in Chicago. Your redaction of it was incorrect in spots, as already explained, and I fixed that. There were also grammar and tone-related issues which I adjusted. Lastly, I never said that someone of 50% Eritrean ancestry cannot feel very connected to Eritrea. If that had been my argument, Ella Thomas obviously wouldn't have been included since she too has a non-Eritrean parent. The difference is that she is nonetheless representative of Eritreans in the States because she was born in Eritrea and is an active part of the Eritrean diaspora as well. She's not just someone who happens to have some Eritrean ancestry. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 14:04, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
- Ok. If it is true the that you said, I think it's good for article, delete the information I adhered on it, if that information was bad spelling and should be corrected it, so as to enhance the interpretation that I made on some points of the source on which I relied. While the source, although basically it speaking of Chicago, the beginning of the article talked about the reasons for the Eritrean emigration and showed some data on their migration in the United States in general. These data were the ones I took (not the data of Chicago, because before you said that the references only spoke of a place). As for the photos, although I accept them as they are now (as thou put it), I do believe that an American that is 50% Eritrean can also feel very connected to Eritrea and joined the Eritrean American population (many Americans that descending only a partial origin still feel part of that origin, even some celebrities). Just want to ask you a favor: When you delete the information that I include in an article, do you can send me a message telling me and explaining the reasons for the removal please?, because this should not take me by surprise and disappointment, to see how my contributions (if are many) are removed without explication. Regards. --Isinbill (talk) 23:38, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
- With respect, that's a strawman. And for the second and last time, please remember to post any future responses here where the full discussion is found. No need to double post. Middayexpress (talk) 21:06, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- No need to have been born or raised in the United States to be an Eritrean American, just that he descends from Eritreans, but has always lived in the U.S., as you put it in the introduction of the article.--Isinbill (talk) 20:57, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- Kindly stop arguing for the sake of arguing. Several bits of that material was actually wrong, as already explained. And yes, per WP:COMPETENCE, material should be written in proper English, and in a neutral, encyclopedic register, which I saw to. The fact that you didn't spell "North Africans in the United States" correctly only further demonstrates that proper English is an issue here. As for the pics, I never stated that peoples of partial ancestry should not be included on that basis alone. I said in my last line above that despite the fact that the gentlemen in question have some Eritrean ancestry, they are not representative of the community because they were not born in Eritrea, have never lived there, and are not really part of the Eritrean community abroad either. Ella Thomas, on the other hand, is representative because she was born in Eritrea and is an active part of the Eritrean diaspora as well. Also, please post your response if any here so that the discussion is all in one place. Middayexpress (talk) 20:49, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- Pictures of people that are only partially descended ethnic group speaks of an article (in the case of the pictures I got, 50%), located in the data box of the article, is something that is repeated in almost all wikipedia articles that talk about ethnic groups. That yu can see on items such as English American or German American. Furthermore, the fact that I've made some mistakes does not mean you have to remove all information that I included and re-write it for the most part, in the item, in other words.--Isinbill (talk) 20:35, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- Actually, what you indicated in several instances differed from what the link says. The most conspicuous example of this was when you wrote that most Eritreans arrived during the 1980s, when the link actually states that most who arrived during the 1965-1991 period specifically came during the 1980s (as opposed to the 60s, 70s, or 1990-91). This was probably a mistake, but an error all the same. Also note that the link is on the Eritrean population in one city, not everywhere. The wiki English was also sub-par, so I rendered it more encyclopedic. As for those two gentlemen, they are only partially Eritrean, were not born in Eritrea, have never lived there, nor are they really part of the Eritrea community abroad. The purpose of the infobox image area is to show notable representatives of the community, not just any person, famous or otherwise, who happens to have some Eritrean ancestry. Middayexpress (talk) 20:22, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- Now I'm not sure if I Should leave the answer here or on my page for you to read ... Qwanell Mosley and Nipsey Hussle, whose photos I included in the article, are people who have a parent Eritrean each. And I I repeat, you deleted it all the information I included to rewrite most of them with your words, basing on the same reference that I used. For that, it would have been better to accept my information, at least for the most part.--Isinbill (talk) 20:06, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- Well, you changed the text to indicate that most Eritreans arrived in the 1980s, when they actually arrived in the 1990s. It was specifically during the 1965-1991 period when most Eritrean immigrants in the 1980s. The bulk of Eritrean Americans as a whole actually arrived later, following the civil Eritrean/Ethiopian conflicts. Regarding the images, you removed the collage I created and replaced it with individual images, including some of people who are only distantly of Eritrean ancestry, are not born in Eritrea, have never lived there, and are not really a part of the Eritrean community abroad either. You also removed the community center and restaurant pics. That said, I agree that renaming the North African American page would be an adequate solution. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 19:56, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Love history & culture? Get involved in WikiProject World Digital Library!
World Digital Library Wikipedia Partnership - We need you! | |
---|---|
Hi Isinbill! I'm the Wikipedian In Residence at the World Digital Library, a project of the Library of Congress and UNESCO. I'm recruiting Wikipedians who are passionate about history & culture to participate in improving Wikipedia using the WDL's vast free online resources. Participants can earn our awesome WDL barnstar and help to disseminate free knowledge from over 100 libraries in 7 different languages. Please sign up to participate here. Thanks for editing Wikipedia and I look forward to working with you! SarahStierch (talk) 20:47, 22 May 2013 (UTC) |
Love history & culture? Get involved in WikiProject World Digital Library!
World Digital Library Wikipedia Partnership - We need you! | |
---|---|
Hi Isinbill! I'm the Wikipedian In Residence at the World Digital Library, a project of the Library of Congress and UNESCO. I'm recruiting Wikipedians who are passionate about history & culture to participate in improving Wikipedia using the WDL's vast free online resources. Participants can earn our awesome WDL barnstar and help to disseminate free knowledge from over 100 libraries in 7 different languages. Please sign up to participate here. Thanks for editing Wikipedia and I look forward to working with you! SarahStierch (talk) 22:20, 22 May 2013 (UTC) |
"Afro-Dominican" vs. "Black Dominican"
The issue is that in the Dominican Republic is inconceivable to say that "Afro-dominicans" are an ethnic group. The article was written to portrait the North American point of view of the races and ethnics, following the "One drop rule", which claims that all offspring of an African will always be African, but not all offspring of an European is European. That has nothing to do with the Dominican situation, and is nonsense to apply that in this article. I found remarkable that just 3 days ago, Listín Diario, the major Dominican newspaper, published about this issue: ¡Dominicano, no seas un color!
This article is about a Dominican ethnicity and it must be about what is for Dominicans that ethnic, because ethnics are a social contruct, not like races that are a scientific and a genetic construct. There must be an article about black Dominicans and another one about multiracial Dominicans. ★ Nacho ★ ★ 21:24, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
- ^ Please do note that any exceptional claim would require exceptional sources
- ^ Self published material is characterized by the lack of independent reviewers (those without a conflict of interest) validating the reliability of contents. Further examples of self published sources include press releases, material contained within company websites, advertising campaigns, material published in media by the owner(s)/publisher(s) of the media group, self-released music albums and electoral manifestos:
- The University of California, Berkeley library states: "Most pages found in general search engines for the web are self-published or published by businesses small and large with motives to get you to buy something or believe a point of view. Even within university and library web sites, there can be many pages that the institution does not try to oversee."
- Princeton University offers this understanding in its publication, Academic Integrity at Princeton (2011): "Unlike most books and journal articles, which undergo strict editorial review before publication, much of the information on the Web is self-published. To be sure, there are many websites in which you can have confidence: mainstream newspapers, refereed electronic journals, and university, library, and government collections of data. But for vast amounts of Web-based information, no impartial reviewers have evaluated the accuracy or fairness of such material before it's made instantly available across the globe."
- The Chicago Manual of Style, 16th Edition states that "any Internet site that does not have a specific publisher or sponsoring body should be treated as unpublished or self-published work."