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Opening heading

I would like to have something about federal regulations for windshield strength, for I can't find an ounce of it on the web. Valerie 18:59, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Should the opening definition include spacecraft? Sagittarian Milky Way 02:46, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

window reflection (car)

I want to make a separate article about visibility of the driver.

Stef

article Driver visibility

Hello

I moved a part to the article "Driver visibility" Here we can write something about windshield reflection , truck driver blind spots, everything that eliminates the visibility

There is a other article about passengers car blind spots

good luck to you all

Stef

Move to Windscreen?

The word primarily used in the article is "windscreen" so the article should be called "windscreen" rather than "windshield". I therefore propose that the article be moved to "windscreen".--ukexpat (talk) 23:07, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The use of 'windshield' and 'windscreen' is currently extremely mixed. I suggest one term is chosen and stuck to throughout the article. Bagofants (talk) 23:28, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

'Windshield' is strictly an American term, if Americans are okay with using both terms I would suggest changing it so that 'windscreen' is used throughout. FOARP (talk) 12:07, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Americans are *not* okay with using both terms, most Americans would be as confused by windscreen as other English speakers are by the term windshield. English bias is a pretty sticky issue in the Wikipedia world it would seem, the talk page for British English being one of the hotbeds of discussion. Some people even go so far as to say mixed usage is good as it broadens the reader's comprehension for terms from flavors of English other than their own. I myself am not so sure, I came across this article from the linked word "windscreen" in an article on Grand Theft Auto IV, a game made by a British developer set in a parody of an American city. Hark80 (talk) 22:50, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A windscreen is a row of trees planted in open fields to protect something downwind from the full force of the wind. These are common on farms to protect the farm house. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:40, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Manufacturing process?

Would including a section on how the windshields are manufactured be appropriate here? There is a note of the macro process from window glass on through to laminate but a curved, clear, glass seems like it would require a specific manufacturing process. -- Greyed (talk) 01:49, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was no consensus to move. --RegentsPark (talk) 13:58, 22 April 2010 (UTC) Windshield → Windscreen — Modeled after inverse of unsuccessful move request here (as in, how it is there currently), and inactive request Talk:Windshield#Move_to_Windscreen.3F, to improve WP consistency among wording in articles. ₪— CelticWonder (T·C) " 20:30, 2 April 2010 (UTC) [reply]

Strong oppose per WP:ENGVAR. I closed the other discussion since there was no consensus. Yes, it would have been better for consistency if windscreen wiper had been moved to windshield wiper, but that was not where consensus was. This article has been here since 2003 and there is simply no reason to move it. I'll also add that windscreen is ambiguous. Besides the other uses mentioned, a windscreen is those mesh signs that have holes that allow the wind to pass through. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:31, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose like Vegaswikian I oppose based upon WP:ENGVAR. I'm not sure if it's a Canadian thing, but for me a windscreen is principally a wind barrier (like a tarp or trees) but I have also heard it used in ref. to a microphone cover.--Labattblueboy (talk) 20:21, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. In the article itself, windscreen is mostly used. Outside of America and Canada, the terms are reversed (see Windscreen#Terminology) with windscreen as the unambiguous term, and windshield referring for instance to wind barriers on beaches. Cjc13 (talk) 13:52, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Which does not address the fact that windscreen is ambiguous making it a poor choice. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:01, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - If windscreen is ambiguous than so is windshield. In the UK, for instance, it is windscreen that is the unambiguous term. Cjc13 (talk) 10:52, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I have never, ever heard it called a "windscreen" in the US, and I've lived here all my life. Is there any evidence that this term is used in the US at all? Maybe it's an East Coast thing? (I live on the West Coast...) Wikkitywack (talk) 07:17, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The point is that outside the US and possibly Canada, windshield is not used in relation to cars. The article itself consistently uses windscreen. Cjc13 (talk) 10:52, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - The fact that someone has gone into the article ignoring WP:ENGVAR is not a reason to change. Look at the first version of the article or this one. The fact that they even changed the usage in the US shows a problem. This is no justification for changing from the US usage that started the article and was retained when it grew to a rather large one. Changing these back is not a big deal. Vegaswikian (talk) 15:17, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, unnecessary and potentially disruptive spelling move per WP:ENGVAR. Knepflerle (talk) 08:15, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support Naming should depend on usage in most countries. Windshield is a North American thing. Windscreen is a UK, Ireland, rest of Europe, Australian, South African, New Zealand etc. term. Also as the term is used predominatly in the article, the name should be consistent. WP:ENGVAR does not enter into this as there are logical reasons provided for the move, this is not a BrEn vs AmEn motivated request. Welshleprechaun 11:08, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, article was originally written in American English with an American English title. The wording in the article should be reverted back to American English per WP:ENGVAR. ~~ GB fan ~~ ^talk 22:12, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Repair of stone-chip and crack damage

This section of the article doesn't mention anything about the advantage of repairing the stone-chip damage on a windshield vs replacing the entire windshield. So I added this line - "It's generally a lot cheaper to repair a windshield than it is to replace it. For this reason, insurance companies in some places like Texas waive the deductible as an incentive for choosing repair over replacement." I wanted to add a reference, so I did some googling and picked the most authoritative looking site - Windshield Repair Houston - but it was promptly deleted. The link wasn't added for SEO purposes, especially since wikipedia adds the nofollow attribute to all external links. It was added to provide a reference for the reader. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.54.203.244 (talk) 13:39, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

how about some more history?

Very early windshields were a flat piece of glass. Starting about 1937 (at least in the Big 3 of GM, Ford, Chrysler companies), there began to be divided, raked windshields (the current article shows such on a 1952 car). This continued up to and then after the World War II interruption in making of cars for civilian use. For the Big 3, the 1952 model year was the last for divided windshields (although GM was using curved glass AND divider, while omitting the divider on, say, Cadillac?). Windshields after that are curved. Late 1950s was seeing the "pork chop" (the current article shows such on a 1959 Edsel), but this was quickly phased out in the early 1960s. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.63.16.20 (talk) 21:45, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

market value?

Is this line correct? "A Yorkshire consortium of CO2Sense and Ecofillers Ltd estimate that in the UK the potential market for recycled PVB in 2020 may reach a value of around 5000 GBP." No reference is given. 5000 GBP (assuming they mean Great Britian Pounds) is only 7553 USD. That is a significantly low 'industry value' (which is usually given in millions or billions of GBP/USD) especially if dumping windshields is outlawed in Europe. --198.160.96.7 (talk) 14:18, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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 Very early windshields were a flat piece of glass.  Starting about 1937 (at least in the Big 3 of GM, Ford, Chrysler companies), there began to be divided, raked windshields (the current article shows such on a 1952 car).  This continued up to and then after the World War II interruption in making of cars for civilian use.  For the Big 3, the 1952 model year was the last for divided windshields (although GM was using curved glass AND divider, while omitting the divider on, say, Cadillac?).  Windshields after that are curved.  Late 1950s was seeing the "pork chop" (the current article shows such on a 1959 Edsel), but this was quickly phased out in the early 1960s.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/128.63.16.20|128.63.16.20]] ([[User talk:128.63.16.20|talk]]) 21:45, 17 January 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+== market value? ==
+Is this line correct?
+"A Yorkshire consortium of CO2Sense and Ecofillers Ltd estimate that in the UK the potential market for recycled PVB in 2020 may reach a value of around 5000 GBP."
+No reference is given. 5000 GBP (assuming they mean Great Britian Pounds) is only 7553 USD. That is a significantly low 'industry value'  (which is usually given in millions or billions of GBP/USD) especially if dumping windshields is outlawed in Europe. --[[Special:Contributions/198.160.96.7|198.160.96.7]] ([[User talk:198.160.96.7|talk]]) 14:18, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

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