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When one reads that the unusual pronunciation is in fact due to being named after William Houstoun, one wonders the reason for the difference in the spelling of the street and the person. Also, is there a particular reason why Houstoun should be pronounced differently than Houston? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.65.42.76 (talk) 08:35, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dropped:

Houston County, Georgia is also named for William Houstoun.

Actually, according to the Georgia county's official website, it is named for Ga. governor John Houstoun. Are the two men related? Wish I had time to check... Ellsworth 21:40, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I think Even though Houston Street is readable like house, but i think this is NYC people's dialect, and I think it was derived from Sam Houston. as u can see in ko.wikipedia.org, it says like Huston Street like huge like city of Houston, Texas.-ITartle (talk) 23:06, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

i think both "휴스턴" and "하우스튼" are correct - Houston Street (H Street's footprints) October 17th, 2010 21:06

The entry currently says this: "Houston Street is a large thoroughfare running east - west north of the downtown area of the borough of Manhattan..."

Aside from the fact that the sequence of words "east west north" is inherently difficult, would anyone like to defend the assertion that "downtown" in New York City begins at Houston Street? My personal downtown starts somewhere between 14th and 23rd.

I agree with you. I'm not sure I'd describe anything higher than 14th st as being a "downtown" neighborhood, but Greenwich Village is unarguably downtown, even though it's north of Houston. By the way, the Lower Manhattan article states that "'Lower Manhattan' and 'Downtown' are often roughly synonymous," but I don't buy this at all. To me, Lower Manhattan means below Canal--and especially the Financial District. Downtown much more generally refers to the southern portion of the island.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 13:09, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, downtown has never meant above 14th to anyone I know. Although I don't have anything to back me up off-the-cuff, In my five years living here Dowtown signified below 14th Street. --DavidShankBone 13:27, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I'm going to work up a useful rephrasing for the lead sentence there. - Corporal Tunnel 14:58, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Come to think of it, it's not even true that it's one block south of First Street, except for that little bit of it between First Avenue and Bowery. - Corporal Tunnel 15:02, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've entered a proposed new intro paragraph, which I think is more accurate and concise, and which solves the "east-west north" word sequence problem. Speaking of which, is there a compelling reason to Wiki-link to "east" and "west" in this context? Isn't that a bit silly? I'm leaving it for now because that's the way it was when I came to it, but there are plenty of links in there already - it may be more distracting than useful. - Corporal Tunnel 17:04, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The article's first paragraph is much better and more accurate now. I like it.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 17:08, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Corrected recent edit on the street grid. Despite the Wiki article on the subject, the numeric street grid does not start at 1st Street and Avenue B. There is no 1st Street at Avenue B; 1st starts at Avenue A. The 1811 plan may have been drawn for Avenue B, but any sliver of 1st that might have been there initially was presumably lost when Houston Street was widened. I'm not really sure how useful this information is, as compared to the original statement that the grid starts immediately north of Houston, but whatever - should be fine as is. - Corporal Tunnel 17:19, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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• Houston Street (Manhattan) → Houston Street
• Vesey Street (Manhattan) → Vesey Street
• Doyers Street (Manhattan) → Doyers Street
• Broome Street (Manhattan) → Broome Street
• Rivington Street (Manhattan) → Rivington Street
• Essex Street (Manhattan) → Essex Street
• Mott Street (Manhattan) → Mott Street
• Allen Street (Manhattan) → Allen Street
• Forsyth Street (Manhattan) → Forsyth Street
• Centre Market Place (Manhattan) → Centre Market Place
• Lafayette Street (Manhattan) → Lafayette Street
• Eighth Avenue (Manhattan) → Eighth Avenue
• Tenth Avenue (Manhattan) → Tenth Avenue
• 13th Avenue (Manhattan) → 13th Avenue
• Avenue A (Manhattan) → Avenue A
• Avenue B (Manhattan) → Avenue B
• Avenue C (Manhattan) → Avenue C
• 4th Street (Manhattan) → 4th Street
• 34th Street (Manhattan) → 34th Street
• 52nd Street (Manhattan) → 52nd Street
• 53rd Street (Manhattan) → 53rd Street
• 66th Street (Manhattan) → 66th Street
• 72nd Street (Manhattan) → 72nd Street
• 89th Street (Manhattan) → 89th Street
• 93rd Street (Manhattan) → 93rd Street
• 110th Street (Manhattan) → 110th Street
• 116th Street (Manhattan) → 116th Street
• 181st Street (Manhattan) → 181st Street
• Astor Place (Manhattan) → Astor Place
• Greenwich Avenue (Manhattan) → Greenwich Avenue
• Sixth and a Half Avenue (Manhattan) → Sixth and a Half Avenue
• Dyer Avenue (Manhattan) → Dyer Avenue
• Audubon Avenue (Manhattan) → Audubon Avenue
• Saint Nicholas Avenue (Manhattan) → Saint Nicholas Avenue
• Fort Washington Avenue (Manhattan) → Fort Washington Avenue
• Cabrini Boulevard (Manhattan) → Cabrini Boulevard

– Disambiguation is unnecessary, all of the target pages redirect to the current pages. All of these are the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for their names; there are no other streets with an identical name that are notable enough for an article on Wikipedia. Note that the recent RFC at Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(geographic_names)#RfC:_US_city_names only applies to cities, not streets. See also a similar discussion at Talk:Lexington Avenue. –sumone10154^(talk) 20:53, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose Manhattan streets are disproportionately represented on Wikipedia, perhaps in part because the New York Times has local coverage, making notability easy to establish. But there are many cities with similarly named streets, especially the numbered ones. Wikipedia tries to take a world view of subjects. Keeping the disambiguation will prevent future naming conflicts. It also serves the very useful purpose of letting a reader who is searching for a street by name know that the article deals with the Manhattan location. For example, when I do a Google search on "4th Street," the second line that pops up says "4th Street (Manhattan) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia." I think that is very desirable: If that is the 4th Street I want, I can go there, if it isn't I'm saved the trouble. This also works in the Wikipedia search box. Since we always have (or should have) redirects without the disambiguation, there is no burden on the reader. The current convention does not seem to be broken, so I see no need to fix it.--agr (talk) 21:34, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment the other numeric streets are using digits, why doesn't 10th, 8th? -- 70.24.245.16 (talk) 21:36, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]