User talk:Peter: Difference between revisions

Hello! Welcome to my talk page, feel free to leave a message for me at the bottom of this page, using a new heading for new topics. Please try and use descriptive headers, as it helps with my archiving (I reserve the right to change the header for this purpose). Messages in italic like this have been copied from other users talk pages to keep the full conversation thread together. I will usually reply on your talk page (unless you ask otherwise) to give you a new messages notification. Petros471

Ken Masters/Chun-Li

Please do not add the sprotect template to the article yourself, as only admins can actually carry out the protection (the template is simply a notice of the protection, it doesn't actually protect the article). I've have now semi protected the article, as it is hard to block dynamic IPs without causing a lot of collateral damage. In future if you need an article protected you can put a request in here, and if an IP needs blocking after warning see WP:AIV. Thanks for helping out! Cheers, Petros471 10:05, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, alright. I didn't know that. Thanks :) Danny Lilithborne 10:14, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problem :) Petros471 10:19, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

After an apology on the Ken Masters talk page, this guy seems to be doing it again with E. Honda. Checking his history, his edits seem to be all alterations of statistics on SF, Mortal Kombat and wrestling pages. I don't know enough about the last two to do anything about it, but all the stats on the SF character pages are taken from Capcom of Japan canon, so they're as accurate as possible. Danny Lilithborne 12:13, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Block

Thanks for the note. Jayjg ^(talk) 16:29, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Resurrecting an old case on RFI (Joestieg, Jake Scorpio et al)

Hello. A while back Choess left a complaint about Jake Scorpio (a Joestieg sockpuppet) on WP:RFI. I am asking your opinion about it, now that you're an admin and you seem to pay attention to RFI. You may remember the complaint, since you commented on it at the time. It is archived somewhere on this page. The complaint was pretty much ignored. I thought perhaps that wouldn't matter, since Joestieg seemed to disappear for a while. But he recently reappeared with an impostor account, Veyklaver (talk • contribs) (see checkuser), to harass me . That particular account has been banned, but no action has ever been taken against any of his other accounts despite months of abuse. I would just like to know where I should complain to get some administrator attention. If RFI isn't the right place, where is? Your advice would be appreciated. (It's OK to reply on this page.) —Veyklevar 06:55, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I'll try and take a look at this later today. RFI is probably the right place, however because it doesn't get much admin attention WP:AN/I would be the place to go if I can't help or if it needs multiple people to review the situation. Petros471 09:12, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, so to get this straight we have:

Joestieg (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) - Last edit 25 February 2006, not blocked.
Veyklaver (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) - Edited only on 26 April 2006, blocked as a checkuser confirmed sock of Joestieg.
Ukiemob (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) - Last edit 25 April 2006, not previously blocked, checkuser confirmed sock of Joestieg. - just blocked.
Jake_Scorpio (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) - Last edit 13 March 2006, not blocked, suspected but not confirmed sock of Joestieg.

So to summarise we now have all confirmed socks blocked, Jake is not confirmed but hasn't recently edited, and the puppet master Joestieg is not blocked but hasn't edited recently (under that account). I think that will do for now, unless you have anything more to add? Joestieg can be blocked for disruption if he creates any more sock accounts, but I'll leave it for now. Petros471 20:48, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's all the known socks, unless ip addresses count as socks. The only thing I don't understand is why Jake Scorpio isn't blocked. Given his edits, the only possibilities are (1) that he's a malicious sockpuppet of Joestieg, or (2) that he's an impostor pretending to be such a sockpuppet. Either way, I don't know why we would want him around. Anyway, that's not terribly important. Thank you for your efforts, I know it must have been a chore to sort through the history of the whole sordid business. —Veyklevar 00:42, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't forget about 24.61.27.114 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) (especially as it's checkuser confirmed) but I thought as no edits have been made from it since the final warning I'd leave it for now. Same with Jake really, especially as it wasn't definitively confirmed. If the account is used again for disruptive edits I'd be happy to block, but I'll leave it for now. Feel free to let me know in future if any of these re-appear. Cheers, Petros471 20:36, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, just to show Veyklaver was right to be blocked for impersonation- I just thought I'd posted this message on the wrong talk page until I double checked! (too many tabs open...) Petros471 20:53, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You are not the first person to be confused. When I first saw the impostor's posts, I didn't even notice the spelling difference. For a moment I thought there was some sort of database glitch causing some other person's posts to be attributed to me. —Veyklevar 00:42, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks for spotting my note on WP:AIAV. Never had to use it before. Wow, that was fast. Telsa (talk) 09:38, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

Way to go on blocking User:BlackKn1ght!! Man, that was fast. Grand masterka 10:23, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

IP 207.195.51.94 Vandal Back Again

This IP is up to the same old tricks at Martin Luther. I've reverted the second time today. Didn't bother with a new warning. He's been blocked once more since you blocked him. --CTSWyneken 16:13, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

207.195.51.94 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log), let's take a look... Petros471 19:46, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry but I'm in a generous mood (to the vandal that is), and as it was one quick burst of vandalism I've given a test4. Next vandal edit that looks like it's from the same user let me know (if it's another quick one-off) or report to WP:AIV if an urgent block is needed. Be sure to note that it looks like the same user or the report will probably just get removed off that page with little action. Petros471 20:09, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks for reverting my user page while I was on holiday - appreciated Stephenb (Talk) 12:11, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problem :) Petros471 20:26, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question (User talk:ChaplineRVine/hello-alt)

Hi Petros,

A user, ChaplineRVine, posted this script into my talk page: {{User talk:ChaplineRVine/hello-alt}} . Do you know why they might have done that? I thought it may have been an attempt to get me to vote in an AfD since he seemed to have done something sneaky like that a few days ago when he put messages on talk pages to say hello but when you clicked on part of his signature it sent you to an AfD vote. This tag did something similar. Thanks, --Strothra 19:29, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mmm that is weird... That's a page being transcluded onto a load of talk pages, and would from the title appear to be a standard welcome message or something. No problem with that (although it should be subst:) if that is what is was, but it seems like a strange extract from a talk page or something... I'll go and ask him about it and see what happens. Petros471 19:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's a vote stacking effort since it does link to a hot topic afd. Please see the section of his talk page titled "Those talk-page messages you've been leaving." There's an accusation there where he did a similar thing in a previous afd discussion. I don't think it's against Wiki rules though but just annoying. --Strothra 19:48, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(second attempt at posting this) Could you please post this on WP:ANI as I think it could do with a few more experienced admins to decide what needs to be done. Thanks, Petros471 20:01, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sure --Strothra 20:02, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

May the Force be with you.

Dear Peter,

Thanks for voting on my RFA! I appreciate your faith in me, and was overwhelmed by the positive response to my RFA; for it shows that at least I'm doing something right. :) I've started working to improve myself already, and I hope that next time, things run better, and maybe, just maybe, one day we can bask on the shores of Admintopia together. Thanks and cheers, _-M o P-_ 21:46, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vandal User:86.16.102.3

Hi Cobaltbluetony. Please note that I've archived or removed your recent request for investigation. That page is only for very specific cases, as described by the page's guidelines. Your alert would be better placed on Administrator intervention against vandalism (WP:AIV), where it will usually be processed within minutes. Many alerts that are incorrectly placed on Requests for investigation are never dealt with, simply because they become old before an administrator gets to them. Thanks for your efforts. :) Petros471 08:40, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

PS. I haven't blocked for now as no edits since your final warning. Have you checked that all info added changed has been reverted? Petros471 08:40, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Request concerning 86.16.102.3 (talk · contribs) was moved by Deskana here, not by me. Vandal continued since my addition of the IP to the WP:AIV page. I do have to review ALL of the edits, because some I let slip by due to not knowing at first the nature of the "trivia". - CobaltBlueTony 13:16, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, ok I didn't realise you hadn't reported it. I wouldn't mind if more admins actually paid any attention to RFI, but as very few do, AIV is the best way to get a quick block on a vandal. Thanks for helping out, keep it up :) Petros471 13:22, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Would you please, please, please consider a block on this person? They're at it again, and they're getting sly-er! *grinds teeth* - CobaltBlueTony 14:02, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Now blocked for 24 hours, will extend if continues on return. User:Petros471 14:18, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much! - CobaltBlueTony 14:59, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. I like your italicized method of recording both sides of a conversation. I may adopt it! - CobaltBlueTony

Aska 4

Mind if I extend your block to indefinite, as that user doesn't seem to have any intention of contributing usefully? Petros471 08:46, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. I was thinking about extending the block myself but wasn't sure if that would be a good idea because I have been the most involved with him. By the way, I'm glad that you are becoming an active admin. From what I have seen you are doing a great job. Academic Challenger 08:48, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Yeh, that's why I suggested doing it. I was going to block in response to the AIV report, thought your block was a bit on the short side and then after all the disruption on the talk page afterwards... Thanks. Petros471 09:07, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Arab Americans and Egyptians

Seeing your edit and subsequent revert from Zerida here would you mind adding to the discussion on Category talk:Egyptian Americans to help form a consensus there? Petros471 08:00, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the invitation to discuss this issue, but I have no factual information on the subject. I was just working to fix up categories and one item looked out of place--based only on my general knowledge of what makes up Arab countries. Thanks Hmains 15:46, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Uberac 9

Please reinstate the uberac 9 article, they have an audience of well over a thousand - up to 2000, and are an up and coming band - you better have a very good reason!!! oooh yes! Benjaminstewart05 17:58, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(btw I started writing this before receiving your message on my talk page) I deleted that article as it doesn't meet Wikipedia notability criteria for bands. I've noticed that you seem to be one of the few editors of Portsmouth Grammar School that actually wants to improve that article, so I wanted to thank you for that. However there are still parts of that article that aren't really that notable for anyone outside of the school. Please remember that whilst Wikipedia is is not a paper encyclopedia, not everything is considered suitable for inclusion. Please feel free to ask me any further questions. Petros471 18:04, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I quote from the critera for groups and ensembles:

"Important note: Failing to satisfy the notability guidelines is not a criterion for speedy deletion. An article that fails to even claim that the subject of the article is notable can be speedy deleted under criterion A7, however. A mere claim of notability, even if contested, may avoid deletion under A7 and require a full Article for Deletion process to determine if the subject of the article is notable."

I claim that they are notable and that they will one day achieve success, so really I am doing wikipedia a favour by actually creating an article on them, so that in the future (if it isn't destroyed by people like you), it will be here.

Please reinstate or I will continue creating the article and we wouldn't want an edit war would we now.

A very angry - Benjaminstewart05 18:08, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here's the deal: I knew perfectly well before I deleted the article that you wouldn't be happy, however as an administrator on Wikipedia I've signed up to help keep it tidy, do some janitorial type work etc. That article did not assert notability, and to be honest I'm not sure it can at this point in time. Remember that official policy states that original research is not allowed, so just writing about something you know about isn't enough for it to stay on Wikipedia. Now I could undelete the article and list it on AfD, but I advice you that it probably won't be pleasant for you. If you still aren't satisfied then feel free to request a Deletion review. Petros471 18:22, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

An edit war it shall be. Benjaminstewart05 18:36, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that edit warring disruptive, and is a blockable offence. Petros was perfectly justified in deleting the article, as it does not meet our notability criteria for bands, but meets our speedy deletion criteria for articles. As Petros says above, you can always request undeletion if you disagree.--Shanel ^§ 18:43, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's right get a friend in - well, a good way to end this, and keep a perfectly good wikipedian, is by not deleting the article. And if you must block me, it will be the most stupid thing you have ever done - apart from deleting the article in the first place. Sometimes I wonder about the sanity of some people - Just keep it and stop being a pedant. Benjaminstewart05 18:51, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Blocking you is the last thing I want you to do- I really do want you to contribute to Wikipedia, but it's already been explained why that article can't stay (and if you disagree with that how to dispute it properly). As for bringing my friends in - all I did was point the situation out to some other admins to check that I was doing the right thing, and they agreed with me. Petros471 19:02, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I see that I'm going to have to delete the page again. As I said before if you dispute the deletion take it up at deletion review. Alternatively, if you ask me to, I'd be happy to undelete it and list it at WP:AfD to allow the community to decide (you can have your say there as well). I'd even be happy if you wanted the article in your userpage. Now before do anything else about this, please review your options: you can go ranting at me on my talk page, but I'm not quite sure what that would achieve; you can take up one of the options I've given you above, if you believe Wikipedia should have this article; or you can simply get on with welcoming new users, and doing good solid article/talk page edits like I know you're capable of doing (hint: I'd pick that one). So what will it be? Petros471 15:04, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You really are a very big geekopedant - Ok, it won't go on wikipedia proper, and it won't go to a vote because you and your friends will try and block it. So, could you tell me how to create a seperate area on my user page for it. Therefore it will still be accesible on wikipedia to those who may want to know more about it, i.e it's audience.

But tell me if you put it on WP:AfD - If you do, I want to defend it.

Benjaminstewart05 16:33, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To create a user subpage for the article just go to User:Benjaminstewart05/Uberac 9 and edit away. As you've re-created the article before I assume you have a local copy of it, so is there any need for me to restore a version and move it there for you? Also please note despite you calling me a "a very big geekopedant" (never heard of a geekopedant before- far more original than most words chucked in my direction!), I am 'bending' this part of the WP:NOT policy, so don't say I didn't do anything for you... As long as you don't re-create the article in the main namespace (i.e. where all articles go) I won't put it up on AfD, but if I did, then I would have let you know. And btw, thanks for re-wording the message heading- will look a lot more boring in my archive but shows you're willing to take a step back :) Petros471 16:49, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for finding a good solution to a difficult problem - appeasement does work even if it caused WW2.

Benjaminstewart05 16:59, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats

Fantastic, so now you are an administrator! I would have come earlier, but could not on account of my sickness from 3rd April to 24th April 2006 resulting into my wiki-absence. I convey my congratulations to you on your elevation as an administrator, and wish you all the best! Have you ever seen me around? I am just curious! --Bhadani 15:17, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks :) It means I've now pretty well always got something to do! Yes, I have seen you around various places. Cheers, Petros471 15:22, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Book

Heya, thanks for letting me know! I hope you enjoy it. What part of the world are you in? If I'm passing through that way, I'll let you know so I can stop by and autograph, if you want! Oh, and for a hint on the metapuzzle: be sure to examine page 16 very carefully. :) --Elonka 18:13, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar - But I don't know where to put it

The Barnstar of Good Humour

I award this barnstar for diffusing a situation with an editor (me) in a rage, and making it work Benjaminstewart05 08:54, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #3

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Note from the editor
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Trading spaces

Hello, Petros471, thank you for signing up to participate in Esperanza's trading spaces program. As you requsted to have your user page renovated by another user, Whopper will be renovating your userpage. Please contact Whopper on their talk page about the renovating. The renovating will be listed at Wikipedia:Esperanza/Programs#Undergoing_Renovation, please feel free to update the status as it changes. Enjoy!

Hello Petros471

So I'm going to renovate your userpage. Can you give me an idea of what you would like, (organization, colors, etc)! Whopper 00:20, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll finish it tommorow morning. Whopper 01:59, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Whopper, thanks for starting work on my userpage, it's looking good so far. Just a few things in response to your question to guide your completion:

* I'd rather have my userboxes outside of one of those 'show' sections.

* You can put the 'What I do on Wikipedia' and 'To-do' sections into one of those 'show/hide' things, as they are more for my reference.

* I like the coloured Intro, Admin stuff, RFA, About, Contact boxes as you've done them :)

* Maybe make the 'What I do on Wikipedia' section colour scheme the same as the 'About me' box, as the lighter shade is easier on the eye.

* Oh and a final bit of vanity- now I've got my second barnstar could you create a new 'show/hide' section for 'Awards'?

Thank you again for your work, I look forward to seeing the final result! Cheers, Petros471 09:42, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, sounds good, I'll make a drawing at work today, and try it 9out :) Cheers. Whopper 11:58, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RFI report

Thanks for your response. Yes, I did notice your report on ANI- good job! I'm glad that we got that sorted out and got the proper blocks in place. I should have noticed that it was a registered account and not an IP (I knew that period at the end was fishy...) Anyway, good job, and I'm glad my report did some good. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help you in the future. E WS23 | (Leave me a message!) 19:22, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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 :::Ok, sounds good, I'll make a drawing at work today, and try it 9out :) Cheers. [[User:Whopper|Whopper]] 11:58, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
+==RFI report==
+Thanks for your response. Yes, I did notice your report on ANI- good job! I'm glad that we got that sorted out and got the proper blocks in place. I should have noticed that it was a registered account and not an IP (I knew that period at the end was fishy...) Anyway, good job, and I'm glad my report did some good. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help you in the future. [[User:EWS23/Esperanza|<font color="green">'''E'''</font>]][[User:EWS23|WS23]] | [[User talk:EWS23|(Leave me a message!)]] 19:22, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Fahrer / Team für die Suche eingeben:

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User talk:Peter: Difference between revisions

Revision as of 19:22, 8 May 2006

Archives

Ken Masters/Chun-Li

Block

Resurrecting an old case on RFI (Joestieg, Jake Scorpio et al)

Thanks

Vandalism

IP 207.195.51.94 Vandal Back Again

Thanks

Question (User talk:ChaplineRVine/hello-alt)

May the Force be with you.

Vandal User:86.16.102.3

Aska 4

Arab Americans and Egyptians

Uberac 9

Congrats

Book

Barnstar - But I don't know where to put it

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #3

Trading spaces

Hello Petros471

RFI report