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I modified the template so that it will accept an optional parameter value of 4. This will allow properly punctuated usage of the class when it is to be used as a noun. Grammatically, using parameter value = 0 provides an adjectival form.

For example:

The last ship of the {{sclass|Haven|hospital ship|4}} is still afloat in [[Baltimore, Maryland]].

Gives this:

The last ship of the Haven class is still afloat in Baltimore, Maryland.

I tested this at {{User:Bellhalla/Sandbox}} prior to implementing the change, so I am hopeful that it will work correctly.— Bellhalla 11:41, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have added a disambiguation parameter to {{sclass}} to help avoid generating links to disambiguation pages. This is what occurred previously when the "ship type" parameter was "minesweeper". The template linked to minesweeper, a disambiguation page, rather than minesweeper (ship).

I tested the functionality of my changes at {{sclass/sandbox}} and User:Bellhalla/Sandbox before implementing them. — Bellhalla (talk) 19:03, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

what if you don't like using a hyphen in the class name? GraemeLeggett (talk) 08:54, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As of right now, you can generate the form "Name class" — with no hyphen (but also no ship type) — by using format option 4, like this

{{sclass | Shipname | Classtype | 4 }}

which would produce Shipname class. — Bellhalla (talk) 11:58, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

{{editprotected}} Please change the first line of this template from this:

• <includeonly>[[{{{1}}} class {{{2}}}| ''{{{1}}}''<!-- remove \n

to this:

• <includeonly>[[{{{1}}} class {{{2}}}|''{{{1}}}''<!-- remove \n

This edit will remove one extra space character that is generated in front of the link, noticeable when this template is used right after punctuation. This should be a pretty straightforward edit, but nevertheless, I have tested this change at the testcases page. — Bellhalla (talk) 16:24, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. — Kralizec! (talk) 17:42, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a possible way to have a code similar to this template, and having the shiptype be optional? Like, perhaps you don't have a ship type to use, or it's known (For instance, Enterprise-class) (a random named I picked, by the way) That way, you could use this template with and without a type, I've tried to figure this out, but I just...can't seem to get going in the right direction.--Terran Officer (talk) 10:11, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm unable to get this template to output a link without a redirect on an article that hyphenates in the name (i.e. Derfflinger-class battlecruiser). Nothing I can come up with will output a link with the hyphen, necessitating a redirect (i.e. Derfflinger class battlecruiser). Can we establish a parameter to change this without screwing up the parser? For the list I'm generating, I can't use a greenlink, I need the actual target instead of a redirect (and really don't want to have to manually type piped links with italics). bahamut0013^words_deeds 17:25, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

Could you add fr:Modèle:Classe to interwiki links ? Thanks, Gonzolito ^Pwet 21:30, 19 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Done, see here, but you didn't need to use {{editprotected}} - Template:Sclass/doc is not protected. --Redrose64 (talk) 18:44, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Is there some parameter to distinguish between different classes of the same name? For instance there are two South Dakota-class battleships, so that link just leads to the disambig. Is there a way to write it so that it will lead to one or the other? --Grahamdubya (talk) 15:33, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Using {{sclass|Abercrombie|monitor}} gives Abercrombie-class monitor ([[Abercrombie class monitor|''Abercrombie''-class]] [[monitor]]). It should instead give Abercrombie-class monitor ([[Abercrombie class monitor|''Abercrombie''-class]] [[monitor (warship)|monitor]]). Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 16:43, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Two things: (i) my understanding is that it's only the ship's name which should be italicised, the word "class" is written upright; (ii) you don't seem to have sufficient apostrophes in your <nowiki>...</nowiki> examples. --Redrose64 (talk) 18:47, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I fixed that. Copy-paste error. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 19:01, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oh there's a disambiguation option, I didn't see that. {{sclass|Abercrombie|monitor||warship}} gives the correct output: Abercrombie-class monitor. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 19:05, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please replace the content of this with the content of Template:Sclass/sandbox. It will remove hyphens in the ship class per Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ships#Ship class hyphens.

 Ryan Vesey 13:15, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Done --Redrose64 (talk) 12:05, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Ryan Vesey 13:16, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, that's just plain wrong - and has not been properly discussed. The hyphen is essential in distinguishing between the the noun form (Foo class) and the adjectival form (Foo-class ship). This used to be properly explained at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Ships/Guidelines#Referring_to_ship_classes - until messing around with this template make a nonsense of the explanation - and thousands of other pages. I'm going to ask for the most recent change to be reverted and ask that this is properly discussed before any further changes are made. See comments at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ships. 212.183.128.232 (talk) 18:40, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The template still makes a large overgenerlization, automatically changing things like Parthian class submarine to Parthian-class submarine. In addition, the noun-form is much more likely to be used. If there is going to be an exception, the exception should be for it to become the adjectival form. Ryan Vesey 18:44, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan, read MOS:HYPHEN, and please give me a moment to finish editing - I'm having snags with edit conflicts here! Thanks. 212.183.128.232 (talk) 18:48, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

what in MOS:HYPHEN are you referring to? The part that says "hyphens are never inserted into proper-name-based compounds" perhaps? Ryan Vesey 18:51, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan, my dear chap, {{sclass}} used to correctly render Parthian class submarine to Parthian-class submarine, which is always correct. "Parthian-class" is a compound modifier of submarine - ie the noun submarine is modified by the hyphenated adjectival phrase "Parthian-class". The nounal use would be "Parthian class", NOT "Parthian class submarine". If you're not a grammarian, perhaps it's worth pausing two marching paces to read up on the difference in a suitable reference - or indeed in Wikipedia's MOS at MOS:HYPHEN. Can I also point out (at the risk of further damage to the correct use of English grammar in Wikipedia) that {{sclass2}} still correctly implements the hyphen!

On the subject of "proper-name-based compounds" (and note the beautiful hyphenation in that phrase), that prohibits solecisms such as "Ryan-Vesey errors", as the example makes clear. Yours, 212.183.128.232 (talk) 19:00, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, well for starters, my requested template change should be reverted, at least until discussion is finished. I know little about the proper naming and was just going off of what I was told earlier; however, why is it that the title of the article should be unhyphenated? It was that comment that led me to believe it was a proper-name-based compound. Ryan Vesey 19:05, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan, good question. The discussion about hyphenating article names was defeated through a mixture of WP:JDLI and a self-defeating campaign of unilateral action. It wasn't pretty - you can read it here. I personally feel the articles should prima facie be hyphenated, but I can't see us opening that can of worms again for a long time... 212.183.128.232 (talk) 19:45, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please revert the last change to this template. The hyphens are there for a reason - English grammar.

212.183.128.232 (talk) 18:48, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The change should be reverted, there needs to be a hyphen in Parthian-class submarine and others. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 19:39, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've asked User:Redrose64 to revert the requested edit. 212.183.128.232 (talk) 21:40, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Done see here. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:42, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]