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Perry's Teenage Dream has sold around 4.5 million in the US. 0.9 million i UK. Around 1.3 million in Canada and has over 9 more certifications in other countries as well. So I think it must also be added.
Perry's Teenage Dream has sold around 4.5 million in the US. 0.9 million i UK. Around 1.3 million in Canada and has over 9 more certifications in other countries as well. So I think it must also be added.
:1.3 million in Canada?!! I definitely don't believe this. [[Special:Contributions/109.10.33.64|109.10.33.64]] ([[User talk:109.10.33.64|talk]]) 19:28, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

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"Another One Bites the Dust"? 7-8 million copies sold. 82.141.159.112 21:59, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I also added it. You're welcome.--Mauri96 (talk) 04:43, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Bohemian Rhapsody

Bohemian Rhapsody ? --89.239.145.5 12:38, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I added it in. :) --Mauri96 (talk) 04:43, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Culture Club

I find it hard to believe "Karma Chameleon" is nowhere on the list. That's song was extemely popular like in 1983/1984 and a major international hit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.192.176.30 (talk) 19:43, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I added "Karma Chameleon" in as well.--Mauri96 (talk) 04:43, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Where the... is all the Michael Jackson singles?

Where is Thriller, Beat It, Billie Jean, Black or White, You Are Not Alone, We Are the World, Bad, The Way You Make Me Feel, Earth Song...? Maads (talk) 18:55, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"We Are The World", "Billie Jean" and "Black or White" are on the list, with sales levels of 20, 7, and 8 million respectively. The two Jackson titles have no references, and could potentially be tagged and later removed. The charity single is sourced to an unacceptable reference (see TSORT post above) and so needs a better ref as well. If you can find notable references (not fansite claims or fan-blog boasts) supporting a worldwide sales claim of more than five million, or national certifications that add up to more than five million, then feel free to cut-and-paste the links here and someone will check them and add them to the list if you're unable to do so yourself. Abrazame (talk) 00:45, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"We Are the World", "Beat It", "Billie Jean" and "Thriller" have all been added to the list (the last two were removed before 2012) with notable references. I still can't find sources for "Black or White" and "You Are Not Alone". The rest I believe did not sell the minimum 5 million, but by all means add them if you can find (a) reputable third-party source(s) or notable references, whichever you prefer.--Mauri96 (talk) 04:43, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from 24.10.246.151, 12 December 2010

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Please provide a WP:RS. --Funandtrvl (talk) 18:03, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I added the song to the list with "Genie in a Bottle" 's source.--Mauri96 (talk) 04:43, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Where is Genie in a Bottle?

--2811Butterfly (talk) 21:50, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It was added in sometime between you posting ^that^ and me writing this--Mauri96 (talk) 04:43, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

ABBA, Baccara

  I think that I know how Wikipedia works, now. As long as a claim can be Linked to a Book, or Article, that claim is

added here as 'Fact'. Thus, because Joseph Murrells Book, gave 18 Million Sales to Baccara's 'Yes Sir I Can Boogie', it is Listed here as having 18 Million Sales. The fact that the claim is ludicrous is of no consequence. The Baccara Single sold 4 to 5 Million Globally. It was not even a Hit in the USA - pretty hard to even sell over 5 Million without USA Sales. It had sold 3 Million in Continental Europe, before becoming a UK Hit. With UK Sales, & Irish Sales, etc., it sold 1 to 2 Million more copies. Where the extra 13 Million to 14 Million Sales have come from, I do not know! Maybe it was also a Hit in Atlantis, Fairyland, & Wonderland!

  As for ABBA - Their biggest Seller is 'Dancing Queen'. It is now on about 7 Million Sales - with Downloads added in.

By the end of 1992, it was on over 6 Million Sales. You are using the fact that Joseph Murrels gave it 3 Million Sales in his Book. In fact, they were Sales given out at the end of 1976. It was still in many Global Charts at that time.

  It had only just started climbing the USA Charts. It went to No.1 there in 1977. It sold well over a Million there.

Mr. Murrels included Zero of its 1977 Global Sales in his 3 Million Total.

  But, Wikipedia grossly over-estimates the Sales of the Baccara Hit, & grossly under-estimates those of the ABBA

Hit. As such, I've long realised that it is fatal to use Wikipedia as a reference for anything.

  I get the impression that if there was an Article saying that Noddy was once the King Of Denmark, Wikipedia would

put that as a Fact, in the Enid Blyton section - because you could Link to the Article! I find it very hard to take Wikipedia seriously. Especially on Music & Chart 'Facts'. (LOL!)82.22.125.117 (talk) 11:12, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sadly, it is Wikipedia's policy to do what you have described above. Users like myself and Harout72 have tried to be bit more realistic and add, say, certification requirements for an artist's sales or for an album's sales.
I have a feeling a certification requirement box would be disastrous here because two of the world's largest music markets, the U.S. and the U.K., had little in the way of sales tracking above a simple "Platinum" certification until single sales picked up with songs like "I Will Always Love You" and virtually all mega-hits in the past few years.--Mauri96 (talk) 04:43, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hikaru Utada - Flavor of Life

First of all, her official "stage name" as printed on future releases is Hikaru Utada, not Utada Hikaru, according to her article here on Wikipedia. More importantly, Flavor of Life has sold 8,000,000 copies as of the most recent source, dated May 13, 2008. Sales of tracks from Heart Station, according to barks.jp —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.28.105.66 (talk) 20:22, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done. I updated the sales using your same reasoning.--Mauri96 (talk) 05:50, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think these singles have sold more than 5 million:

I Like It:5 milliom(last years WW sales was about 4.9 so up to now surely it has sold more than 5)

Hero: 8 million or more(in 2001 it sold more than 3 and year after more than 4 and up to now may more than 9)

Bailamos: 5 (in 1999 it sold more than 4 million and of course till now it has reached 5)

so please add them and if you're not sure check it out yourself from a reliable source may be like meditraffic.de--Farid1374 (talk) 19:10, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think even if we dont rely on mediatraffic(as i see most of the singles sales claims likes of shakira is claimed by meditraffic) these singles and even some other singles of enrique Iglesias has sold more than 5 million!!!!!!!!!
just try to find a reliable source or check it from the data bases!!! and i think one the resons that you dont know about his single sales is bcuz his sales at those particular years was not in the top ten. but even those PDF files sales claims is really close to meditraffic and with some gusses you can add those singles of Enrique!!!!!!!!!!--Farid1374 (talk) 10:17, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"I Like It" has been added. I don't know about the other songs though. They don't seem to have almost any sources for their sales. It seems that like 70% of websites that mention Enrique Iglesias' single sales only mention "I Like It"--Mauri96 (talk) 05:50, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Need You Now

NYN was certified for 5 mio. copies sold in the USA, for 70k in Australia and 15k in NZ. The result is 5,085,000 which makes it eliable to be included in the list. Please include it! --79.199.19.192 (talk) 00:50, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Avicennasis @ 01:27, 4 Av 5771 / 4 August 2011 (UTC)
The song was added.--Mauri96 (talk) 00:53, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mariah Carey

Without you has sold more than 9 million copies, Fantasy has sold more than 7 and one sweet day has sold more than 6.5. I saw that in a page what show the best selling singles worldwide. http://www.mediatraffic.de/alltime-track-chart.htm

(united world chart)

Note: the chart mentioned is not based on copies but points.

I gotta feeling

I gotta feeling has sold more than 13 million copies worldwide not 7 million. http://www.mediatraffic.de/alltime-track-chart.htm

(united world chart)

Madonna - Hung Up

Hung up is one of madonna best selling tracks ever selling at least five million copies. I think it should be added as well

Me Against the Music

Does it seem odd that the single "Me Against the Music" is listed twice, once with Madonna's name, and once with Britney Spears? And they are both associated with different numbers...

White Christmas figure...

It's a guess. 50 million copies was being touted in the 1980s and is too much of a round number to be genuine. Certainly by 2010 several million more ought to have been added to that figure. Does any one know any more up to date figures, or could we work out an appropriate caveat for the article in terms of precision? DavidFarmbrough 10:50 a.m. UST 2nd December 2010.

Shakira

  • Underneath your Clothes with sales of over 9 million copies worldwide
  • "La Tortura" is currently the highest-selling only-Spanish language digital track in United States at 804,000 downloads and the biggest-selling Spanish language track of the decade with sales of over 5 million copies worldwide

hips dont lie sold more than 13 millon copies worldwide and is the most selling song in the decade — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.106.169.108 (talk) 17:20, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Where is Michael Jackson?

Michael Jackson is described elsehere in wiki land as the third biggest recording artist of all time (after The Beatles and Elvis), yet he doesn't appear here at all. I can only think of an anecdote told by a coworker about the time he visited his daugher working for the peace corps in niger - no electricity, no running water, no vehicles, indeed no sign of "modern" civilization whatsoever - yet one afternoon, he heard some music that sounded vaguely familiar. he walked around the village looking for the source and finally found some old man sitting at the opening of his hut with a beatup cassette player listening to Thriller. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.158.61.141 (talk) 19:56, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The songs Black or White and Billie Jean used to be on this list. Billie Jean was removed ages ago and I have no idea what happened to Black or White. In any case, there are two explanations to why so few of Michael's songs sold 5 million+.
First of all, back in the 80's, single sales were not as big as album sales, so few sources, newspaper quotes and other traces exist of single sales from that time.
Second of all, as a consequence or cause of the first thing, around 70-90% of Michael Jackson's certified sales (as in gold, platinum, multi-platinum) are for his albums; Thriller alone has nearly 43 million in certifications. He doesn't really have a lot in single certifications.
I'll see if I can find sources for those two songs and maybe Beat It, and You Are Not Alone and Don't Stop Till You Get Enough. Mauri96 (talk) 17:32, 22 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I've been looking through Michael's certifications, and if you add in this source and the certifications he has for mastertones, both "Billie Jean" and "Beat It" have over 5 million in sales and "Thriller" has around 5.6 million. Mauri96 (talk) 00:59, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WHITNEY's HOUSTON I WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU is the best selling single by a female artist

I Will Always Love You is the best selling single by a female artist,not Celine Dion's My Heart Will Go On  ! You put 15 million for My Heart Will Go On and 12 million for I will Always Love You ! Is this a mistake ?

Too many newer songs

I have gotten tired of seeing this trend in this list. Just because we're in the 2010s doesn't mean we can completely forget about past decades. Chances are there are at least 4 to 15 songs from the 80s that have sold enough to be mentioned in this section of list:

Purple Rain, Like a Virgin,

Physical, Another Day in Paradise,

Every Breath You Take, Hello,

Walk Like an Egyptian, Faith,

With or Without You, Livin' on a Prayer, etc.

Of course-- since most people EDITING the list listen to NEW music (some of whom are rambling, presentist teenagers who don't give a s--- about the past), we have THIS problem.


I admit many reasons for which I am not entirely justified in my point. I admit there were less people on Planet Earth to buy records and less countries certifying them 15+ years ago than now. I also admit globalization and worldwide development now let more songs reach more places than before. BUT, IFPI (the LEGITIMATE source where most of the 25 new songs come from) themselves say in their 2010 report that the music market has SHRUNK 30% in the past 3 years, In addition, The Guardian says that "95% of music downloads are done illegally", meaning that average number of copies any hit song sold then and the amount of copies one would sell now really hasn't changed much.

As a final note, Wiki-users/people who defend new music might say "Hey, if you're complaining so much about this, why don't you go fix it yourself?!?" Well, what I have to say is: 1-It only takes ONE person to go to IFPI's yearly reports and post COMPLETELY LEGITIMATE figures for new songs. 2-To balance out with 80's songs, 70's songs or other, it takes hours of dedicated and focused research done by multiple people to produce equal results from those time periods.

--This is not a personal attack on anyone or any group.-- ---This is not a complaint about IFPI yearly report sources already being used.--

I appreciate everyone's attention for taking the time to read this and their possible consideration for thinking about it contemplating and planning to PLEASE, take ACTION and help solve this. Mauri96 (talk) 03:46, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]


I would like to say sorry to everyone for such a useless, biased and unproductive rant. I did not hand solutions or tools to reach them to the hands of all you editors.
My main reason for posting this is to bring this very serious topic to the attention of everyone (no matter how few) who edits and watches this page. I will try to look for links and sites that can facilitate reaching the goal of including more 90s, 80s, and late 70s songs on this list. Mauri96 (talk) 19:45, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As of April 22, 2012, I have added Do They Know It's Christmas?, Lambada, You're the One that I Want, Eye of the Tiger, Beat It, Thriller, Another One Bites the Dust, Bohemian Rhapsody, and a couple others. Since few sales records exist from the 70's and 80's, some of the songs I mentioned will never be added. Some songs I request help finding sources for are When Doves Cry, Livin' on a Prayer and With or Without You. --Mauri96 (talk) 18:58, 22 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Physical-era singles VS. Digital-era singles: We need new rule?

I notice that this page is completely flooded with recent songs. After digital era began in 2005, nowadays, selling 5 million copies for a single is not hard to achieve. In 1989, Madonna's "Like a Prayer" was the best-selling single of the year, yet it only sold 5 million (physical singles). In 2011, we have nine songs with sales of 5 million (digital singles) per IFPI report. I think it is really unfair and WP:RECENT. What do you all think? Do we need a different rule for singles between pre and post digital era? Bluesatellite (talk) 04:57, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Good point, we could try ro make something like the list of best-selling albums in the Nielsen SounScan era. I would separate the article into "Best-selling digital singles" and "Best-selling physical singles" sections. After all, there used to be separate sections for 5-9.9 million copies 10-20 million copies, etc.
However, there may end up being a problem with songs released between 2000-2005 that may have sold a little of both.
By the way, I was the one who tagged the list as showing signs of recentism. :D Mauri96 (talk) 16:45, 28 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I've already gotten a start on separating the physical and digital singles here. If anyone wants to go ahead and make the split, you are welcome to do so. Mauri96 (talk) 22:08, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I will now make the split. Mauri96 (talk) 06:03, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Returning to the issue of where to put songs released in the mid 2000's, it is worth noting that in the U.S., the last song to sell 1 million physical copies was "I Want You" and the first to sell 1 million digital downloads was "Hollaback Girl". Mauri96 (talk) 14:52, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

ABBA - Fernando

it is written that ABBA's Fernando sold 6 million copies; however, the link indicates it sold 10 million copies worldwide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.157.154.117 (talk) 22:29, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WHERE IS KELLY CLARKSON'S "BECAUSE OF YOU" ?!

the title says it all... by now the song must have sold over 10 million copies worldwide ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.178.240.211 (talk) 21:26, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

As of 2010, "Because of You" has only sold 1.465 million digital downloads in the U.S., where 82% of the song's certifications come from. In other words, it is very unlikely the song has sold anything past 3 million copies worldwide.
Not even "My Life Would Suck Without You", which has sold 2.601 million copies in the U.S., could make it on the list, since it only has 0.43 million in non-U.S. certifications. Sorry.--Mauri96 (talk) 22:37, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WHERE IS KATY PERRY'S "TEENAGE DREAM" ?!

Perry's Teenage Dream has sold around 4.5 million in the US. 0.9 million i UK. Around 1.3 million in Canada and has over 9 more certifications in other countries as well. So I think it must also be added.

1.3 million in Canada?!! I definitely don't believe this. 109.10.33.64 (talk) 19:28, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]