Hi January. FYI and [1]. Thank you. Dr.K. ^{λogosπraxis} 10:47, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The article was fully protected. Maybe the protecting admin thought the dispute was between the two of us. Regardless, you win some you lose some. Dr.K. ^{λogosπraxis} 04:46, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thank you for your input to the article. I've been struggling with that on my own for a while now. January (talk) 17:06, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Just trying to help you out. Personally the subject of the article leaves me completely indifferent to say the least. Dr.K. ^{λogosπraxis} 20:42, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi January, why have you not replied to my latest point in the discussion of above article, with regards not citing for the 5 year term as it is in the state's constitution?

87.228.193.254 (talk) 16:09, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your last comment? The comment I didn't reply to came from the 212 IP who said they were an independent observer who supported your position [2]. January (talk) 17:21, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

IP 212. Is known to me, <redacted> but he is not me i'm an entrepreneur my name is Yiannis, you seem to be accusing me of using sock puppetry, please refrain from doing that it is unfair and unsubstantiated and can be seen as harassment so that what you believe is correct goes in the article. Now I have noticed your reply which is still unsatisfactory. I think the Cypriot constitution takes precedence over any sort of citation! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.228.193.254 (talk) 17:58, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You should not be posting other people's personal information without their consent, see WP:OUTING.

How did you both find yourselves involved in the same dispute? January (talk) 18:16, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's a funny story,we are season ticket holders at the same Cypriot football club,our seats are adjacent we have both contributed to improving certain Cypriot football club entries on Wikipedia mostly of the club we support. When I added what you are labelling as POV section on the CBC governor it was after reports on Cypriot TV you removed them asking for citations which I added you then said that was not good enough. Given 212 profession, I told him to have at look at the discussion and use his admittedly deeper knowledge on the subject to first see if what I had added was fair. The rest you can see on the discussion. I apologise for inadvertently giving bits of his Id but it appeared necessary to prove to you that we are not in fact one and the same!

87.228.193.254 (talk) 20:30, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You previously claimed to have no relation to this user [3], and the other user claimed to be an "independent observer" when in fact you had asked them to involve themselves in the dispute. I would suggest both of you take a look at WP:MEAT. January (talk) 20:42, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

what is wrong with asking someone to independently judge if what you are writing is fair? He is not a close friend or relative and on his own free will he took part in the discussion, I just pointed it out to him! Dear oh dear January your over eagerness to keep the article as is, means you are trying to use all sort of Wikipedia rules to prevent ANY edits to the article!!

87.228.143.217 (talk) 20:56, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

January, you are implying I'm a "meatpuppet" this is defamatory, please retract this harrasment. It is indeed quite ingenious the methods you are using to prevail in the "Edit War" of the Athanasios Orphanides article. Anything in the wikipedia rules just to get your version through. Let me clarify what I meant by "independent" observer and why I consider myself to be one, even though you don't seem to believe Yiannis. For a start I'm called Stavros and I work in a Cypriot bank. Yiannis is an aquaintance, he is not a friend nor a relative. You must realise that in a country as small as Cyprus you cannot strictly apply these universal Wikipedia rules on sock puppetry and the like, for the simple reason that our whole population is around 750K-800K, we are a small nation and almost everyone is "aquainted" to the other!! Yiannis who I know from football games of our favourite Nicosia team asked me to fact check his addition to the Orphanides article, he didn't ask me to take his side or tip the argument in his favour, in fact he told me <please do a "sanity check" and fairness check on what I have added>. If I with my better knowledge on banking issues would have found his additions unfair, defamatory or with undue weight I would have had no qualms to say so, in the discussion on the topic. The fact that I didn't and agreed with him does not mean I'm his "meatpuppet"!! I am using my independent judgement that you seem not to value and are discounting completly.

Moving on to another subject though, why have you started behind our backs a "sock puppetry" investigation of Yiannis and myself? This is a bit naughty when on the one hand you are involved in an "edit war" with Yiannis and on the other hand you are using other methods to intimediate him and get him to stop his good faith edits. I would have expected an experienced wikipedia administrator as yourself to not bite off the head of newbies like us on this encyclopedia and assume good faith. In actual fact you write these principles on your discussion page where in fact all you are doing is "teasing out" info from us and then "telling" on us for sockpuppetry!!! How is this fair??? Lastly please reply to my point as to why the Orphanides article is slanted towards pre-2007 research/events and no mention at all is made of his recent actions as central bank governor between 2007-2012. This is undue weight and a slanted representation of a living person and you watchlisting the article and preventing the addition of a section on his record as governor from user 87. is basically perpetuation this slanted view. Who on earth is Geostavr who added the beer image I certainly don't know him and I'm not his "Muppet"!!! 62.12.95.225 (talk) 06:24, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I started the SPI because I did not find it plausible that the two of you were unconnected editors, and as is now acknowledged you are not unconnected although you both previously claimed you were. It was actually because it was clear that something strange was going on that I withdrew from the discussion. As for the additions, the material removed was inadequately sourced which does not comply with WP:V and WP:SYNTH (another editor agrees with me on this). You are reading far too much into my motives which have only ever been about ensuring compliance with WP policy. There has absolutely never been any intention of intimidation or harassment on my part. January (talk) 12:39, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough January, I see all you want is a strict application of rules, there may be a cultural clash here as well, in the sense that English people as yourself love rules while a Cypriot like me does not like following rules blindly in cases where the constitution of a country (the UK has no written constitution so maybe this prevents you from understanding that this is the most important document or evidence in a country with a written constitution) clearly says the term is 5 years and the president has absolute right to renew. I would be interested to see your response to ip 212 point that the article focuses too much on research prior to the post of Governor. Are you doing anything to rectify this in a way that follows all these rules?

87.228.193.254 (talk) 13:34, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've explained why I withdrew from the discussion, and I certainly do not feel that we can have any sort of constructive discussion while these insults and ad hominem arguments directed towards me continue. I have already suggested a couple of places where you can raise it if you think there is a neutrality issue with the article as it stands. January (talk) 10:15, 24 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Poor excuse for keeping the article as is and biased.

87.228.193.254 (talk) 21:34, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for helping deal with the backlog at Category:Non-free images with orphaned versions more than 7 days old. Please note, however, that merely deleting the old versions of the iage doesn't remove it from the category - pleasse also remove the {{orphaned fair use revisions}} tag from the image description page. While a bot to do this does aparently exist, when a call for admins to clear out the category is made, and multiple admins are doing it at the same time, these images should be removed in real time. As far as I can tell, the bot doesn't actually do that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Od Mishehu (talk • contribs) 13:18, 18 December 2011‎ UTC