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:Frankly, if there's another article on the topic, in my mind there's absolutely no reason for any of them to be on this one. [[User:DreamGuy|DreamGuy]] 21:59, 24 February 2006 (UTC) |
:Frankly, if there's another article on the topic, in my mind there's absolutely no reason for any of them to be on this one. [[User:DreamGuy|DreamGuy]] 21:59, 24 February 2006 (UTC) |
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*I split the "References to Cthulhu" section into a separate article: [[Cthulhu in popular fiction]]. I left a hatnote at the top of the Cthulhu page directing editors to the other article — although technically hatnotes should not be used for this purpose, I strongly recommend leaving it for the time being so that other editors will know where the "fancruft" (with apologies, I would prefer to use a more ''diplomatic'' term, but I can't think of one at the moment) went; otherwise, the "References to.." section is liable to get recreated.<br><font color=blue><small>-,-~</small></font>[[User:RlyehRising|<small><sup>R<big>'lyeh<big>R</big>isin</big>g</sup></small>]]<font color=blue><small>~-,- 19:08, 1 April 2006 (UTC)</small></font> |
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== Lame IPA in lead == |
== Lame IPA in lead == |
Revision as of 19:08, 1 April 2006
no information
the article is huge, and some people obviously put some time into it, but there's practically speaking NO INFORMATION on what cthuluhu actually DOES, or WILL do, or what the deal is. the ONLY specific piece of information is that he will be "ravenous" in "delight" or something like that. .....what is that supposed to entail? i assume lovecraft's source material gives more details than that. otherwise the whole idea of cthulhu is nothing but a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury signifying nothing. somebody please put in some details about what cthulhu will actually DO when he rises.
A note, on the removal from the article of the "kuh-loo-oo" pronunciation: As I recall, Cthulhu has been pronounced "kuh-loo-oo", and by no lesser person than Lovecraft himself. Nobody's quite sure how he got "kuh-loo-oo" from "Cthulhu" (or vice versa), though. --Paul A 01:25 Feb 21, 2003 (UTC)
Regarding the quote, "That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons even death may die," in the story The Nameless City by H.P. Lovecraft, the protagonist says that the verse refers to the alligator/seal beings that live in the eponymous nameless city in the middle of the desert. "It was of this place that Abdul Alhazred the mad poet dreamed of the night before he sang his unexplained couplet:" It might be worth mentioning this, in the section where it says the verse usually relates to Cthulhu. --67.188.65.218 18:55, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Its also worth mentioning that Cthulhu appeared in an episode of the new Justice League cartoon series that runs are Cartoon Network. They pronounced the name "Ich-thoo-loo". He wasn't very Lovecraftian insomuch as Superman punching him in the face did him significant harm, but that's DC for you.
Tales of the Plush Cthulhu
No page on Cthulhu-related satire can be complete without a reference to Tales of the Plush Cthulhu: http://www.logicalcreativity.com/jon/plush/01.html
Not sure where this goes, but...
Cthulhu movie! http://www.cthulhuthemovie.com/
Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
Where should a reference to this go? It's not exactly a parody of Cthulhu...--SarekOfVulcan 07:08, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
The nonnotables
This article has a bad case of cruft... do we really need to know everytime some webcomic parodied Cthulhu, or cards in games, or (by the gibbering mouths of the squamous shoggoths!) that the description of a minor deviant art community actually mentions the name in an offhanded and totally uninteresting way?
You could probably cut out half of this article just getting rid of pointless trivial crufty junk. DreamGuy 02:26, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
proposed change
In Quake, the first boss is named Cthon, not Cthulhu.
References to the mythos
The list of references to the mythos in this article is out of control. There's a page for that. Anyone want to take a stab at criteria by which key references should be selected on this page? -Harmil 22:14, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
- Frankly, if there's another article on the topic, in my mind there's absolutely no reason for any of them to be on this one. DreamGuy 21:59, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
- I split the "References to Cthulhu" section into a separate article: Cthulhu in popular fiction. I left a hatnote at the top of the Cthulhu page directing editors to the other article — although technically hatnotes should not be used for this purpose, I strongly recommend leaving it for the time being so that other editors will know where the "fancruft" (with apologies, I would prefer to use a more diplomatic term, but I can't think of one at the moment) went; otherwise, the "References to.." section is liable to get recreated.
-,-~R'lyehRising~-,- 19:08, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Lame IPA in lead
We have at least two independant accounts of HPL's own pronunciation of Cthulhu:
- Frank Belknap Long said in writing: "Coot-yew-lew"
- Robert Barlow said in writing: "Koot-u-lew"
Those two are clear, convergent, and don't require unreadable IPA to make their point -- IPA should come second after them. Why isn't that information mentionned in the lead, as well as the fact that it was how HPL dealed with the name?
62.147.37.230 06:08, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
- IPA is totally useless to being with, despite being inaccurate here. We should use the actual refs. And, from what i remember, HPL himself gave two pronounciations, something like KLOOLOO and something totally alien that humans couldn't understand. It's in his letters somewhere.DreamGuy
Hellboy Reference
I don't know just a thought, and maybe just some conflict here, but in the movie Hellboy at the end of the movie there are those octopus looking monsters that seem to have a similiar appearence to the description of the Cthulhu. I think I'm wrong...but they may very well be the same being. Fromps
Fthagn
In the parody section I changed the note claiming "fthagn" as a corruption of "fan." From the cultist chant "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!" ("In the depths of sunken R'lyeh dead Cthulhu sleeps") from Lovecraft's short story "The Call of Cthulhu," "fthagn" means "sleeps."