Template talk:Artificial light sources: Difference between revisions
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::Well, I thought I would just be [[WP:BOLD|bold]] and do it. I'm fine with your reversion, though. Let's discuss it. What are we trying to achieve with this template? It seemed fine at first, but it has become extremely large. It seems problematic and not very useful to incorporate such a large template into so many pages. I can see the point of a narrower template covering sources of illumination (in the sense of [[lighting]]), but I don't really see the value of a massive template that covers every possible device or process that can emit light. There are better ways of dealing with big lists of things, like [[Wikipedia:Lists (stand-alone lists)|list pages]]. Perhaps we could make a list page with a very small template that links to it?--[[User:Srleffler|Srleffler]] 01:41, 24 March 2006 (UTC) |
::Well, I thought I would just be [[WP:BOLD|bold]] and do it. I'm fine with your reversion, though. Let's discuss it. What are we trying to achieve with this template? It seemed fine at first, but it has become extremely large. It seems problematic and not very useful to incorporate such a large template into so many pages. I can see the point of a narrower template covering sources of illumination (in the sense of [[lighting]]), but I don't really see the value of a massive template that covers every possible device or process that can emit light. There are better ways of dealing with big lists of things, like [[Wikipedia:Lists (stand-alone lists)|list pages]]. Perhaps we could make a list page with a very small template that links to it?--[[User:Srleffler|Srleffler]] 01:41, 24 March 2006 (UTC) |
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==Types of light sources== |
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This is a very useful infobox - for a topic that can be confusing. Please comment on this proposed design - to standardize the general categories of lamps or light sources: (maybe delete "fuel lamps") |
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! colspan=3 style="text-align: center" bgcolor="#ccccff"| L i g h t S o u r c e s |
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| <small>'''[[Fluorescent lamp|Fluorescent]]'''</small> ||<small> [[Compact fluorescent lamp|Compact FLuorescent]] (CFL) - [[Fluorescent lamp|Linear fluorescent]]</small> |
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| width="80" rowspan=7 | [[Image:Compact fluorescent transpa.png|60px|Compact fluorescent lightbulb]] |
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| <small>'''[[Incandescent light bulb|Incandescent]]'''</small> || <small>[[Incandescent light bulb#The halogen lamp|Halogen]] - [[A-lamp]] - [[Parabolic aluminized reflector light|Parabolic Aluminized Reflector]] (PAR) - [[Reflector lamp]] (R) - [[Bulged reflector lamp]] (BR)</small> |
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|<small>'''[[Gas discharge lamp|Gas discharge]]'''</small> || <small>[[High-intensity discharge lamp|High-Intensity Discharge]] (HID) - [[Mercury-vapor lamp]] - [[Metal-halide lamp|Metal-halide]] - [[Sodium vapor lamp|Sodium vapor]] - [[HMI]]</small> |
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|<small>'''[[Arc lamp]]'''</small> || <small>[[Carbide lamp|Acetylene/Carbide lamp]] - [[HQI]] - [[Safety lamp]]s - [[Xenon arc lamp|Xenon arc]] - [[Yablochkov candle]]</small> |
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| <small>'''Fuel lamps:'''</small> || <small> [[Candle]] - [[Gas lighting]] - [[Kerosene lamp]] - [[Limelight]] - [[Oil lamp]]</small> |
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|<small>'''Other types''' ||<small>[[Light-emitting diode|Light-Emitting Diode]] (LED) ([[Solid State Lighting|Solid state lighting]]) - [[Induction lamp|Induction]] - [[Fiber optics]] - [[Neon sign|Neon]] - [[Plasma lamp|Plazma]] - [[Nernst lamp]]</small> |
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-- [[User:Dogears|{{{2|Dogears}}}]] ([[User talk:Dogears|talk]]) 19:05, 24 March 2006 (UTC) |
Revision as of 19:05, 24 March 2006
There has been a request for my bot to rename all files to Template:LightSources - I want to make sure everyone is aware of that, I'll leave this here a few days before starting the job, it's on User:Tawkerbot if anyone wants to see the request. Tawker 08:39, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
See below. My edit has made this unnecessary, assuming others approve of the change.--Srleffler 05:57, 23 March 2006 (UTC)- Please hold off on this, pending the discussion below.--Srleffler 07:06, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
- Bot is not going to do anything until consensus has been reached -- Tawker 07:12, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Simplification and refocus
This template had become large, unwieldy, and ugly. Trying to encompass all possible sources of light in one template is just not going to work. I have tried to simplify and refocus the template to cover sources of illumination (lighting) only.
Note that I have also removed specific illumination sources that are covered by a more general article, e.g. Mercury-vapor lamp, Metal halide lamp, and Sodium vapor lamp are all types of High-intensity discharge lamp, and are all linked in the introduction to the latter article. There is no need to list them all separately in the template. The template should still remain on those individual articles, though, even though they are not specifically listed in it.--Srleffler 05:57, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
- Wow, you really let the discussion develop for a while before making that change, ehh? ;-)
- In any case, I strongly disagree with your changes, so I reverted them. Let's let the discussion develop a bit further before taking such radical action, ehh?
- Well, I thought I would just be bold and do it. I'm fine with your reversion, though. Let's discuss it. What are we trying to achieve with this template? It seemed fine at first, but it has become extremely large. It seems problematic and not very useful to incorporate such a large template into so many pages. I can see the point of a narrower template covering sources of illumination (in the sense of lighting), but I don't really see the value of a massive template that covers every possible device or process that can emit light. There are better ways of dealing with big lists of things, like list pages. Perhaps we could make a list page with a very small template that links to it?--Srleffler 01:41, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Types of light sources
This is a very useful infobox - for a topic that can be confusing. Please comment on this proposed design - to standardize the general categories of lamps or light sources: (maybe delete "fuel lamps")
L i g h t S o u r c e s | ||
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Fluorescent | Compact FLuorescent (CFL) - Linear fluorescent | ![]() |
Incandescent | Halogen - A-lamp - Parabolic Aluminized Reflector (PAR) - Reflector lamp (R) - Bulged reflector lamp (BR) | |
Gas discharge | High-Intensity Discharge (HID) - Mercury-vapor lamp - Metal-halide - Sodium vapor - HMI | |
Arc lamp | Acetylene/Carbide lamp - HQI - Safety lamps - Xenon arc - Yablochkov candle | |
Fuel lamps: | Candle - Gas lighting - Kerosene lamp - Limelight - Oil lamp | |
Other types | Light-Emitting Diode (LED) (Solid state lighting) - Induction - Fiber optics - Neon - Plazma - Nernst lamp |