Africa: South Africa Unassessed

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this people has a vibrant early history, which needs much more detail in this article. ive added a little. please help. Covalent 05:14, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A few points:

• The article claims that "the two language groups are easi to distinguish" basically since the Nguni languages have clicks and the Sotho languages don't. This is completely false, since Sesotho does have click consonants.
• The languages are not "dialects of Bantu language". There is no such thing as the "Bantu language".
• Should this article, which in the introduction says that the use of the term "Bantu" as an ethnic label is insulting (at least in South Africa), then use "Bantu" as an ethnic label throughout the rest of the article?

Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 19:48, 15 August 2006 (UTC) Á[reply]

This edit is problematic for two reasons:

1. Calling the people "Stone Age" is obviously incorrect.
2. The part about the Waterberg looks suspiciously like the apparently Original Research edits I reverted from Nguni after discussing them with User:Mark Dingemanse on my talk page.

Any thoughts? Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 12:09, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Stone Age" is the term used for this aspect of Bantu migration by: William Taylor, Gerald Hinde and David Holt-Biddle, The Waterberg, Struik Publishers, Capetown, South Africa (2003) ISBN 1-86872-822-6. Anlace 17:13, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's obviously incorrect, isn't it? "Stone age" Nguni groups less than 300 years ago? Am I missing something here? Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 21:02, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

oops my mistake. i checked the Taylor source and it says "Iron Age" and attributes the reference time frame as 450AD. i have altered the text accordingly. thanks for your help on this. Anlace 21:23, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, kewl. Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 11:20, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

An article which claims that the ethnic label is insulting should not then use it repeatedly. These South African articles shouldn't all be repeating the exact same history about Difaqane etc. since it is redundant. If the ethnic label is insulting then the title shouldn't use it as if it is valid (that's your fault too, Ezeu).

My Grand Master Plan Eagle 150X7 will try to fix all these problems, beginning with moving this article to Bantu speaking peoples of South Africa in a few days if no one objects.

Any thoughts? Tebello TheWHAT!!?? 21:30, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Phase 1 of The Plan complete. Tebello TheWHAT!!?? 16:34, 29 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]