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::Well, the problem is that the book is used to support sales of pre-1978 singles. I think it would be really difficult to find recent sources. All we need is to verify whether the sales is same with what the book says. [[User:Bluesatellite|Bluesatellite]] ([[User talk:Bluesatellite|talk]]) 02:26, 23 December 2010 (UTC) |
::Well, the problem is that the book is used to support sales of pre-1978 singles. I think it would be really difficult to find recent sources. All we need is to verify whether the sales is same with what the book says. [[User:Bluesatellite|Bluesatellite]] ([[User talk:Bluesatellite|talk]]) 02:26, 23 December 2010 (UTC) |
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:::Lemme check if I can get this book. — <font color="blue">[[User:Legolas2186|''Legolas'']]</font> [[User talk:Legolas2186|<sup>(<font color="red">talk</font><font color="green">2</font><font color="orange">me</font>)</sup>]] 08:08, 28 December 2010 (UTC) |
:::Lemme check if I can get this book. — <font color="blue">[[User:Legolas2186|''Legolas'']]</font> [[User talk:Legolas2186|<sup>(<font color="red">talk</font><font color="green">2</font><font color="orange">me</font>)</sup>]] 08:08, 28 December 2010 (UTC) |
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== 5--9.9 million section: There are 25 SONGS FROM THE 2000's and ONLY 3 songs from the 80's!!!!! == |
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Time and time again, I have gotten tired of seeing this trend in this list. Just because we´re in the 2000s doesn't mean we can completely forget about past decades. Chances are there are at least 4 to 15 songs from the 80s that have sold enough to be mentioned in this section of list (Purple Rain, Like a Virgin, Billie Jean, Another One Bites the Dust, Physical (Olivia Newton-John), Eye of the Tiger, When Doves Cry, Beat It, Every Breath You Take, Hello, Walk Like an Egyptian, Fath (George Michael), Karma Chameleon, With or Without You, Livin´on a Prayer, etc.) but --of course-- since most people EDITING it listen to NEW music (and are therefore probably rambling, semi-ignorant teenagers who don´t give a s--- about the past, we have THIS problem. |
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I admit many reasons for which I am not ENTIRELY justified in my point. I admit there were less people on the planet to buy records and less countries certifying them 10+ years ago than now. I also admit globalization and worldwide development now let more songs reach more places than before. BUT, IFPI (the LEGITIMATE source where most of the 25 new songs come from) themselves say in their 2010 report that the music market has SHRUNK 30% in the past 3 years, In addition, the 2009 report says "95% of music downloads are done illegally" meaning that average number of copies any hit song sold then and the amount of copies one would sell now really hasn't changed much. |
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As a final note, Wiki-users/people who defend new music might say "Hey, if you´re complaining so much about this, why don´t you go fix it yourself?!?" Well, what I have to say is 1-It only takes ONE person to go to IFPI´s yearly reports and post COMPLETELY LEGITIMATE figures for new songs. 2-To balance out with 80's songs, 70's songs or other, it takes HOURS upon HOURS of dedicated and focused research done preferably by multiple people to produce equal results from those time periods. |
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--This is not a personal attack on anyone or any group.-- |
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---This is not a complaint about IFPI yearly report sources already being used.-- |
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I appreciate everyone´s attention for taking the time to read this and their possible consideration for thinking about it contemplating and planning to PLEASE, take ACTION and help solve this. |
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Thank You [[User:Mauri96|Mauri96]] ([[User talk:Mauri96|talk]]) 03:46, 29 December 2010 (UTC) |
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What happened to Sukiyaki?
It used to be on this list and is still listed in Wikipedia in its own article as having sold over 13mil worldwide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taucetiman (talk • contribs) 06:13, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
Mariah Carey
Without you has sold more than 9 million copies, Fantasy has sold more than 7 and one sweet day has sold more than 6.5. I saw that in a page what show the best selling singles worldwide. http://www.mediatraffic.de/alltime-track-chart.htm
(united world chart)
I gotta feeling
I gotta feeling has sold more than 13 million copies worldwide not 7 million. http://www.mediatraffic.de/alltime-track-chart.htm
(united world chart)
Madonna - Hung Up
Hung up is one of madonna best selling tracks ever selling at least five million copies. I think it should be added as well
Me Against the Music
Does it seem odd that the single "Me Against the Music" is listed twice, once with Madonna's name, and once with Britney Spears? And they are both associated with different numbers...
Various singles
Well, I'm sorry that I signed up for Wikipedia. After going through the torture of signing up, i was unable to enter my question. I'll never make that mistake again. Anyway, my question is where is Elvis Presley's It's Now or Never on the best selling singles?24.92.139.138 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:45, 26 July 2010 (UTC).
- RIAA certifies that single as Platinum. That certification was received in 1992 and I forget whether that was before or after Platinum was reduced from 2 million to 1 million. (Our own article on the RIAA is no help whatsoever.) Considering that the track topped the UK charts not once but twice, it's not impossible that this single could have sold an additional 3 or 4 million around the world, but that's not something a quick visit to RIAA can prove. If you'd like to do some research on that song, you're welcome to post it here and an editor will be happy to double-check the source if they can, and add the title for you. Bear in mind that this song has been recorded by many other artists, both in this form and in the original "O Sole Mio", and that excessive claims are likely to include all versions of both songs, which is relevant to the writer/publisher, but not Elvis' single. Abrazame (talk) 06:19, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
I've been removed Mariah Carey singles " All I want for Christmast is You " because the reliable stated that THE ALBUM (Merry Christmast) is sold 12 million copies worldwide, not the singles " All I want ". thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.138.244.177 (talk) 11:50, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
All I Want For Christmas is You, Mariah Carey
The AIWFCIY page says that it has sold 12 million copies worldwide, and that it is one of the best selling singles ever, with that title being a link to this page, however the song is not listed in the list....why???????calvin999 16:57, 7 September 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Calvin999 (talk • contribs)
-If you check the source, it says that the ALBUM ("Merry Christmas") has sold 12,000,000 copies WW. It doesn't refer to the single's WW sales. Therefore, I'm removing AIWFCIY from this page.
I found a page what says that All I want for christmas is you has sold 10,000,000 copies WW. The article refer to the single's WW sales. http://www.nst.com.my/nst/articles/Showbiz_Carey__8217_snewChristmasjam/Article/ --67.194.152.93 (talk) 07:44, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Bleeding Love
Why isnt Leona Lewis - Bleeding love here ?! 90.210.232.212 (talk) 16:54, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
- Do you have any reliable source? Lxhizy (talk) 09:01, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
Ke$ha - "TiK ToK"?
"Tik Tok" has sold more than 5 million copies in the U.S. alone. I think it's time you put her on this "list".
- Done Even if the sales of Tik Tok are over 9 million copies, there are no reliable sources to prove it, so it's nice to use at least the sales un the U.S. Lxhizy (talk) 09:07, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
Shakira 10 million?
The source for the incorporation of shakira on the list does not says she has sold 10 million singles. She has to be removed from the list. --Therein8383 (talk) 23:35, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
- The source says "hips dont lie" sold over 10 million digital sales, so it's actually over 10 million aswell since it doesn't include total sales... but a source can't be found for specifics like these. --109.156.221.54 (talk) 17:32, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Its says on hips dont lie wikipedia page that it is the most successful single of the 21st century , so why isn't this on the list. Like wise for Whenever,wherever,Underneath your clothes and la tortura. Shewolf has apparently sold over five million . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.10.141.122 (talk) 22:07, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
- Everything you said is BS. "She Wolf" was not popular anywhere except certain Latin countries, so thats for sure not true. The rest are exaggerated, their are much better sellers out there.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 09:05, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
Shakira is not just popular in Latin America, but all over the world. Hips dont Lie is the best selling of the decade, and her other songs are close. I even question why "Whenever "wherever" is not on the list... --109.156.221.54 (talk) 17:10, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
- About shakira.. shouldn't it be written in the introudctory bit that it's the best selling of the century? It deserves a mention... --109.156.220.230 (talk) 11:53, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
Christina Aguilera
There are many singles of Christina Aguilera which reached the 5 million mark, like Beautiful and Lady Marmalade, it would be nice if someone could provide a reliable source to put them on the list. Lxhizy (talk) 09:10, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
White Christmas figure...
It's a guess. 50 million copies was being touted in the 1980s and is too much of a round number to be genuine. Certainly by 2010 several million more ought to have been added to that figure. Does any one know any more up to date figures, or could we work out an appropriate caveat for the article in terms of precision? DavidFarmbrough 10:50 a.m. UST 2nd December 2010.
Edit request from 24.10.246.151, 12 December 2010
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- Please provide a WP:RS. --Funandtrvl (talk) 18:03, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
"The Book of Golden Discs" by Joseph Murrells
Anybody can verify the singles sales which supported by that book??? I don't have this book and it is also not available on Google Books. When I cleaned up and rearranged this page, I thought to keep it even though I was not really sure. Thanks Bluesatellite (talk) 01:30, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah I think we should change this for more up to date sources. Mattg82 (talk) 01:53, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
- Well, the problem is that the book is used to support sales of pre-1978 singles. I think it would be really difficult to find recent sources. All we need is to verify whether the sales is same with what the book says. Bluesatellite (talk) 02:26, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
- Lemme check if I can get this book. — Legolas (talk2me) 08:08, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
- Well, the problem is that the book is used to support sales of pre-1978 singles. I think it would be really difficult to find recent sources. All we need is to verify whether the sales is same with what the book says. Bluesatellite (talk) 02:26, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
5--9.9 million section: There are 25 SONGS FROM THE 2000's and ONLY 3 songs from the 80's!!!!!
Time and time again, I have gotten tired of seeing this trend in this list. Just because we´re in the 2000s doesn't mean we can completely forget about past decades. Chances are there are at least 4 to 15 songs from the 80s that have sold enough to be mentioned in this section of list (Purple Rain, Like a Virgin, Billie Jean, Another One Bites the Dust, Physical (Olivia Newton-John), Eye of the Tiger, When Doves Cry, Beat It, Every Breath You Take, Hello, Walk Like an Egyptian, Fath (George Michael), Karma Chameleon, With or Without You, Livin´on a Prayer, etc.) but --of course-- since most people EDITING it listen to NEW music (and are therefore probably rambling, semi-ignorant teenagers who don´t give a s--- about the past, we have THIS problem.
I admit many reasons for which I am not ENTIRELY justified in my point. I admit there were less people on the planet to buy records and less countries certifying them 10+ years ago than now. I also admit globalization and worldwide development now let more songs reach more places than before. BUT, IFPI (the LEGITIMATE source where most of the 25 new songs come from) themselves say in their 2010 report that the music market has SHRUNK 30% in the past 3 years, In addition, the 2009 report says "95% of music downloads are done illegally" meaning that average number of copies any hit song sold then and the amount of copies one would sell now really hasn't changed much.
As a final note, Wiki-users/people who defend new music might say "Hey, if you´re complaining so much about this, why don´t you go fix it yourself?!?" Well, what I have to say is 1-It only takes ONE person to go to IFPI´s yearly reports and post COMPLETELY LEGITIMATE figures for new songs. 2-To balance out with 80's songs, 70's songs or other, it takes HOURS upon HOURS of dedicated and focused research done preferably by multiple people to produce equal results from those time periods.
--This is not a personal attack on anyone or any group.-- ---This is not a complaint about IFPI yearly report sources already being used.--
I appreciate everyone´s attention for taking the time to read this and their possible consideration for thinking about it contemplating and planning to PLEASE, take ACTION and help solve this.
Thank You Mauri96 (talk) 03:46, 29 December 2010 (UTC)