:November 23, just like the US, I believe. Plus a couple days to a couple weeks for the library to process it (like sticking barcodes on it). ''<span style="background:#00BB00">[[User:Brambleclawx|<span style="color:brown">Bramble</span>]][[User talk:Brambleclawx|<span style="color:brown">claw</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Brambleclawx|<span style="color:brown">x</span>]]</span>'' 01:22, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
:November 23, just like the US, I believe. Plus a couple days to a couple weeks for the library to process it (like sticking barcodes on it). ''<span style="background:#00BB00">[[User:Brambleclawx|<span style="color:brown">Bramble</span>]][[User talk:Brambleclawx|<span style="color:brown">claw</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Brambleclawx|<span style="color:brown">x</span>]]</span>'' 01:22, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
::I don't really plan on reading it (I got way behind a long time ago), but I will try to keep the summaries, etc. cut down and clean. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy">[[User:PrincessofLlyr|<font color="darkgreen">PrincessofLlyr</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:PrincessofLlyr|<font color="blue">royal court</font>]]</sup></font> 03:00, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
::I don't really plan on reading it (I got way behind a long time ago), but I will try to keep the summaries, etc. cut down and clean. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy">[[User:PrincessofLlyr|<font color="darkgreen">PrincessofLlyr</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:PrincessofLlyr|<font color="blue">royal court</font>]]</sup></font> 03:00, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm still keeping on, but a fifth series seems a bit much. :/. Getting pretty off topic now... [[User:Derild4921|<span style="color:blue">Derild</span>]][[User talk:Derild4921|<span style="color:red">49</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Derild4921|<span style="color:green">21</span>]][[User:Derild4921/Guestbook|<span style="color:orange">☼</span>]] 03:05, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
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I noticed that an individual had made modifications to the article Ranger's_Apprentice and you reverted it to its previous condition, see link Diff between the versions at question . The individual not only added several notes of interest, but fixed several inaccuracies. I understand that you reverted it because it seemed to add fluff to the article. I am just giving you a heads up that I am going to not revert to the previous changes, but incorporate them into an addition and fixes to the article. I hope the changes that I will make are amiable to you.
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Below is the NASCAR Picture of the month (found here). The picture has to be one uploaded in the last month.
It is exclusive to the Newsletter. REMEMBER, YOU CAN VOTE.
Article of the month – Alan Kulwicki, selected as a good article
Alan Dennis Kulwicki (December 14, 1954 – April 1, 1993), nicknamed "Special K" and the "Polish Prince", was an AmericanNASCAR Winston Cup Series (now Sprint Cup Series) racecar driver. He started racing at local short tracks in Wisconsin before moving up to regional stock car touring series. Kulwicki arrived at NASCAR, the highest and most expensive level of stock car racing in the United States, with no sponsor, a limited budget, and only a racecar and a borrowed pickup truck. Despite starting with meager equipment and finances, he earned the 1986 NASCAR Rookie of the Year award over drivers racing for well-funded teams.
After Kulwicki won his first race at Phoenix International Raceway, he debuted what would become his trademark "Polish Victory Lap". Kulwicki won the 1992 Winston Cup championship by what was then the closest margin in NASCAR history. He died early in 1993 in a light aircraft accident, and was unable to defend his championship. He has been inducted into numerous racing halls of fame and was named one of NASCAR's 50 Greatest Drivers.
Kulwicki was known for being a perfectionist and doing things his own way. An engineer by trade, his scientific approach to NASCAR racing inspires the way teams are now run. Despite lucrative offers from top car owners, he insisted on driving for his own race team, AK Racing, during most of his NASCAR career. Described by his publicist as "a real hard type of person to get to know", he remained a bachelor throughout his life.
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You have deleted my page October2003 which I believe I was working on in my page space so that I could continue to improve the quality and content of this page before publishing to Wiki. I would like to know why you have deleted it. Was I building the page in the wrong work area?
You also deleted the page with the reasoning of ambiguous / promotional content. I would like to know how the content for the individual I was writing this page on is any different to the content found out the following http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Arno as I copied the same style of factual content.
Hi October2003. Hm... that page wasn't a good one to base anything off of :/. Please make sure that the page meets WP:BIO; it doesn't look like any of the companies he has founded have pages on Wikipedia (or qualify for one), unlike Arno. Additionally, it read like a resume, focusing solely on his career and public appearances. Take a look at one of our featured biographies, for example, Barack Obama, which is something better to strive towards. The article is well-sourced and covers his whole life, not just his political career. If you're still interested in creating the article, I'd be more than happy to restore the page if you can find some other information to make it a more complete biography, making sure it meets without a doubt WP:BIO. Regards, Airplaneman ✈18:23, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
506th Infantry Regiment
Notice you'd removed the (United States) from the end since there are no other 506th Infantry Regiments listed, so no disambiguation is required. I'm curious if consistency with the other regimental article titles (502nd Infantry Regiment (United States) and 504th Infantry Regiment (United States), for example) is reason enough to leave the unneccesary disambiguation intact. I think it is, as we would otherwise need to go through every such regimental article and change the titles on those without another article of similar name. Interested in your thoughts. --Habap (talk) 13:59, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That is just one of the humdrum activities editors sometimes have to engage in. I spent most of the morning fixing links to avoid redirects. Tomorrow, I will probably finish the ones that remain. This sort of thing goes on all the time. Consistency with other similarly named articles is nice, but not necessary. If those other articles are unnecessarily disambiguated then, yes, they should be changed as well. But, changing 506th back seems unnecessarily time-consuming, especially since it would mean all the links I changed today would have to be changed back. As I said on your talk page, there were at least 5 redirects produced by various page moves involving 506th, which is really absurd. When pages are moved, editors need to take it upon themselves to change the links, which is time-consuming and boring, but must be done. Thanks. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive'17:18, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Virtually every US military unit was changed to include 'pre-emptive disambiguation' around January of 2007. It was a lot of work and it seems comical to go and undo all that work just because 3 editors have agreed that it should be done despite the decision made 3 years ago. I will search to see if I can find the discussion that was carried out by the Military History Wikiproject for clarification. --Habap (talk) 18:23, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Here is the discussion by the WikiProject Military history. I've posted on the talk page for the Wikiproject to see if further discussion or changes to all such articles is desired. --Habap (talk) 18:49, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, and nice to meet you, Habap. I wasn't aware of the discussion and am willing to revert my move per the discussion for standardization that occurred three years ago. I'll keep tabs on the discussion. Airplaneman ✈23:45, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Nice to meet you as well. I'm waiting on response from RepublicanJacobite, as there is a lot of work involved in undoing the changes if consensus is that they ought to be undone. --Habap (talk) 13:20, 28 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just contacting you to request reinstatement of the Beta Lambda Zeta social fraternity page. The page provides information regarding the fraternity and its history, so it does contain value. The page is also linked to several others, notably the Emory and Henry College page and the Frank Rowlett page.
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit. When adding comments to talk pages, please remember to sign your posts with four tildes like this: ~~~~. Your article was deleted because it was about a group or club, and did not indicate the importance or significance of the subject. I invite you to create a userspace draft, and I'd be willing to help, if you can find reliable sources to indicate notability. Thanks, Mono03:55, 28 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think it should resolve itself before long (probably during the next archival by the bot). If the bot makes a pass and it's still there, I'm not sure what it is. Airplaneman ✈22:53, 30 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, and nice edit summary. :) Do you know any type of formatting template or something that can put tables into two different layers? Such as two on the top (one-left, one-right), then one in the middle below it? Nascar1996 03:02, 30 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Such a lifesaver!!!! Is there a way to add "New Pages" to the interaction box on a skin? It was there for the CologneBlue skin, but that skin does not seem to work with Twinkle. jsfouche (talk) 06:10, 31 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No problem :). Are you referring to the monobook (old) skin as "CologneBlue"? And is the script you're referring to User:TheJosh/Scripts/NewPagePatrol.js? If so, the script is not working because you haven't created User:Jsfouche/vector.js, your script page for the new Vector skin. An easy way to do this would be to add
Thanks for the help with the Inline Skating Categorization. Its looking really good now! and I'm really getting stuck into the sub-categories pages. Good stuff! Thanks!Geosak (talk) 16:02, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hey! Thanks for your input. I've been busy trying to get a battle cry going with people I know in the industry (inline skating) who could be excellent editors. Still trying to get people to commit, so I'm not going to startup a project just yet. There are 3-5 key players I'm still courting into joining me here on Wikipedia. I'll get there eventually and if/when I do I will poke you to see if you got the time to join us. If I get them involved there is a wealth of info to extract from these guys and we will need an experienced Wikian for sure! For now I'll just continue tidying up and getting it all in a accurate, relevant representation of inline skating (Aggressive skating mostly but I am sure other niches people will follow suit, hopefully). This hopefully will tempt them even more. Thats where I'm at right now. Thanks Air! Geosak (talk) 10:59, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, there has been massive amounts of speculation from IP users including a couple vandalisers. Since the hidden messages do not work, could the article be protected, or add the review thing to it? Nascar1996 14:06, 31 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm still hesitant to protect it because there are good contribs from IPs as well. Since the page is well-watched, I'm not sure pending changes would help with preventing the speculation either. I know the bad additions are frustrating, but I'm afraid locking the page would hinder some potentially constructive contributions. Airplaneman ✈06:04, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Perseus, it looks like the list is unfinished, so I will hold off on moving it until it's complete. Make sure there's no unnecessary overlap from the first series' character list, and that there is no "fancruft" (unnecessary detail: see WP:PLOT as well). I haven't read The Lost Hero, but plan on doing so. Regards, Airplaneman ✈05:55, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
WikiCup 2010 October newsletter
The 2010 WikiCup is over! It has been a long journey, but what has been achieved is impressive: combined, participants have produced over seventy featured articles, over five hundred good articles, over fifty featured lists, over one thousand one hundred "did you know" entries, in addition to various other pieces of recognised content. A full list (which has yet to be updated to reflect the scores in the final round) can be found here. Perhaps more importantly, we have our winner! The 2010 WikiCup champion is Sturmvogel_66 (submissions), with an unbelievable 4220 points in the final round. Second place goes to TonyTheTiger (submissions), with 2260, and third to Casliber (submissions), with 560. Congratulations to our other four finalists – White Shadows (submissions), William S. Saturn (submissions), Staxringold (submissions) and ThinkBlue (submissions). Also, congratulations to Sasata (submissions), who withdrew from the competition with an impressive 2685 points earlier in this round.
Prizes will also be going to those who claimed the most points for different types of content in a single round. It was decided that the prizes would be awarded for those with the highest in a round, rather than overall, so that the finalists did not have an unfair advantage. Winning the featured article prize is Casliber (submissions), for five featured articles in round 4. Winning the good article prize is Sturmvogel_66 (submissions), for eighty-one good articles in round 5. Winning the featured list prize is Staxringold (submissions), for six featured lists in round 1. Winning the picture and sound award is Jujutacular (submissions), for four featured pictures in round 3. Winning the topic award is Sturmvogel_66 (submissions), for forty-seven articles in various good topics in round 5. Winning the "did you know" award is TonyTheTiger (submissions), for over one hundred did you knows is round 5. Finally, winning the in the news award is Candlewicke (submissions), for nineteen articles in the news in round three.
The WikiCup has faced criticism in the last month – hopefully, we will take something positive from it and create a better contest for next year. Like Wikipedia itself, the Cup is a work in progress, and ideas for how it should work are more than welcome on the WikiCup talk page and on the scoring talk page. Also, people are more than welcome to sign up for next year's competition on the signup page. Well done and thank you to everyone involved – the Cup has been a pleasure to run, and we, as judges, have been proud to be a part of it. We hope that next year, however the Cup is working, and whoever is running it, it will be back, stronger and more popular than ever. Until then, goodbye and happy editing! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn, Fox and The ed1703:00, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Can you temporarily restore the MDS Technology article and wait a few days before deleting articles after a notification? There's no need to hurry up the deletion after a notification was first sent. I've been busy and by some misfortune have forgotten to update the article with more relevant information; it's not the only article I pay attention to either. I'm going to update it momentarily. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Desagwan (talk • contribs) 11:09, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's better! I think it would survive a CSD tagging, but if you could add more information (company history, etc.), that would be great. Airplaneman ✈03:15, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The project's most popular page in September was Harry Potter which received 481902 views throughout the month. That means that it received on average 16063 views each day. It's a GA which is Top importance within the project's scope. To see more popular pages head over to the list now.
There are lots of articles within this project's scope without infoboxes. They can help to improve the quality of an article by adding a brief overview. It's a task that won't take very long so why not head over now and help out?
From the Editor
Hello and welcome to this, the third edition of our WikiProject's newsletter. In this month's newsletter, I encountered a problem, well, two problems actually. I needed some help with the production: suggestions and other writers. As with last month, if you have any suggestions for the newsletter, please add them at the Tips Desk. If you would like to write some of the next issue, that's even better! Just come go over to the main Newsletter page to see where you can help out, and of course, as always, please give us your feedback on this edition, on the talk page. Until next time, happy editing!
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows movie Part 1: The first part of the Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows movie will be released worldwide this month, coming out on November 19 in both the USA and the UK.
British PMs reveal favourite childhood books: The British Prime Minister, David Cameron, and his deputy Nick Clegg last week revealed their favourite childhood books to be Our Island Story and The Gruffalo respectively.
I have created a few pages and edited several others. I am working on the Waterfalls project, too. It is A LOT of work to create an article from scratch and make sure links work, references are current and formatted. :)
I was unsure about the talk page. I kinda thought it was just a chat, but I see how it can be useful to maintain it, so I will take your advice about archiving!
Thanks for short term protection of the University of Dallas article, as per my request. As usual, the protect was placed 30 minutes after the non-discussion guy reverted my changes! :) If you could find your way possible to revert his changes here, he might be forced to talk to me and we might settle this. If not, I will just wait until the block expires. Thanks. Student7 (talk) 22:20, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you!
Airplaneman,
1. I like airplanes as well! (Wartime, Military related airplanes specifically)
2. You have a wonderful user page/ achievements.
3. Thanks for signing my guest book!!
TheObsidianFriar (talk) 22:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's always nice to meet new people, and guestbooks help that process. Yay, you like airplanes! When I created this account, I was fascinated with commercial airliners in particular. Since then, my tastes have broadened to include other types of airplanes as well. As for the user page design, thanks :) (I stole the shell from User:MuZemike). See you around! Airplaneman ✈01:00, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Could you make a Wikipedia Ad for PJTF? (or at least get some quick pictures to put together?) Thanks! 173.49.140.141 (talk) 21:30, 2 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I could try if I have a lot of free time (maybe over Thanksgiving?) and/or when I'm inspired to take a crack at visual editing. As for photos, how about a trident? Airplaneman ✈00:56, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Please pardon the intrusion. This tin of thanks spam is offered to everyone who commented or !voted (Support, Oppose or Neutral) on my recent RfA. I appreciate the fact that you care enough about the encyclopedia and its community to participate in this forum.
There are a host of processes that further need community support, including content review (WP:GAN, WP:PR, WP:FAC, and WP:FAR). You can also consider becoming a Wikipedia Ambassador. If you have the requisite experience and knowledge, consider running for admin yourself!
If you have any further comments, input or questions, please do feel free to drop a line to me on my talk page. I am open to all discussion. Thanks • Ling.Nut (talk) 02:14, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's still not too bad, but it looks like all recent edits are bad edits and reverts of those edits. I've semi-protected it for 3 months using the same summary as RoyalBroil (Continuous addition of speculation and unsourced information). Talking to or at least welcoming the offending editors couldn't hurt either. Airplaneman ✈03:18, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Protecting a mate wanting to peddle his POV? This game, apparently, was played in central NSW, and comes from the language of the area, from the one and only written source that exists, a book written by Ken Edwards, who is neither a historian nor an expert in indigenous languages, and who has not referenced where his story comes from. All of a sudden, this author of this wiki article is making a claim that the etching depicting a ball game in Victoria is the very same game that was supposedly being played in central NSW. Sorry, it all smacks of POV, and I'm not sure why he would be getting protection to continue peddling POV. Figghiu Beddu (talk) 22:10, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hardly. I hadn't even met WLRoss (talk· contribs) before this incident, for which he requested protection at WP:RFPP. Go talk to him about it instead of wasting time undoing again and again. Continuous edit warring between you and him may either lead to blocks (for both of you, I don't care who is "right") or full-protection. Try it! Airplaneman ✈04:17, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm quite busy at the moment, so I won't "officially" adopt you (that way I don't feel obligated to try and teach you something, which only adds unneeded stress - I have enough of that in real life). But you are welcome to bombard me with as many questions you can think of. Let's get started! Airplaneman ✈02:57, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'd be willing to help out, my grades have been going back up so I have more free time on Wikipedia now though obviously no time in the morning. Derild4921☼02:58, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Wayne, I think you'll find that having someone, or a group of editors, to rely on, rather than one adopter, may do as much for you as an adopter. Airplaneman has many talk page stalkers, most of whom are always willing to help out. I am, of course, one of those tps and willing to help you. I do take on adoptees, but I'm not even as active as Airplaneman currently, and chances are that the same group of editors would end up helping you. Do you have any specific areas you are interested in learning about, or could you give us a general idea of the things you do know? PrincessofLlyrroyal court04:39, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The adopt-a-user program is still being redesigned, but you can find a list of all available adopters at Wikipedia:Adopt-a-user/Adoptee's Area/Adopters. Simply message them on their talk page and ask to be adopted. If someone is listed as available and doesn’t adopt you, please let me know so I can change the status indicator. Thanks. Netalarmtalk05:47, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sure. No reason not to. Some people will be curious if you leave a basic "please adopt me" line, but if you fully explain why you want to be adopted and what you're interested in learning, probably someone will take the bait. PrincessofLlyrroyal court20:00, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Unprotection Request
Hi, I reviewed the history of the Michael Welner BLP and find no justification for protection so I requested unprotection and was advised to [ask you] about it first. I have not asked for an article to be protected or unprotected before and am not real familiar with the protocol. The BLP has only 1 instance of blatant vandalism that I could find and has never had an edit war nor much editing at all other than that by the Editor who requested protection, who is a new Editor with this being his/her single topic of editing,I think, and who might be overreacting to normal article development and the necessary inclusion of well-sourced criticism of a Subject at times. Mr.Grantevans2 (talk) 14:29, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like you've discussed it with Stewaj7 (talk· contribs); it seemed as though he was undoing multiple edits without much of an explanation over the course of a few days, and "overreacting" does seem to accurately describe what he was doing. I will go ahead and unprotect the article. Happy editing, Airplaneman ✈03:02, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Invitation to the December 2010 Wikification Backlog Elimination Drive
Yes, some parts are so closely paraphrased that it would at least be considered plagiarism. As a user has vowed to fix it, let's give them some time to. I am tempted to just restore this revision, which, at a glance, seems to be clean(er) than the current one. To be honest, this is giving me a headache. I will contact another user way more knowledgable in this area than me and see what they have to say. Thanks for catching this! Airplaneman ✈03:54, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I see this fellow has had a number of warnings on his talk page. Sheesh. His latest action was to remove the AFD tag from the article Bolo Na Tumi Amar currently under discussion at AFD. Considering the number of warnings he's received since October 10, might it now be time for a temp block of the IP? Schmidt,MICHAEL Q.05:22, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) They had done it on 2 other pages too. I've reverted and given them another final warning - but it appears they stopped editing almost 2 hrs ago so a block may not be needed now. 705:51, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Airplaneman! Back in September you gave the page Black operation semi-protection for a month because of repeated vandalism by IPs. Things were very quiet for that month, but now that the protection has expired it has started up again. The page is getting vandalized an average of about once a day. Maybe that isn't a lot by Wikipedia standards; I'm sure many pages are worse. And the page has enough "watchers" that things get reverted fairly quickly. But please take a look at it and see what you think. Thanks! --MelanieN (talk) 15:47, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the protection - and thanks for the guidance about what is and what isn't enough vandalism to require protection. That page certainly did go crazy over the last two days! Hopefully it will calm down after a week. --MelanieN (talk) 01:37, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Flight nurse
Greetings! Can you move Flight nurse to Flight nursing? I tried, but there were a couple of old edits on Flight nursing. Those old edits are incorporated into the Flight nurse page. The rationale for the move is to maintain consistency with other nursing specialty articles which list the name of the specialty following by "nursing". I am working on articles over at the Wiki Nursing Project. Thanks!!! jsfouche ☽☾talk17:01, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Most of the nursing specialty articles discuss the specialty and the role. The primary reason for the request is for standardizing the nursing articles, which are listed by the specialty. jsfouche ☽☾talk00:57, 7 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Please be advised that since the protection on the Michael Welner page was removed, over 20 edits have been made by Mr.grantevans2, including adding a disproportionate section re: Omar Khadr, using unreliable sources and disseminating factually inaccurate content. Such an investment from Mr.grantevans2 is a subtle attempt to vandalize the page and strip it of its reliability as a source to the public – propaganda if you will. I appreciate your input on how to resolve this. Thank you.
A few of the misrepresentations include:
… "to testify at Omar Khadr's sentencing hearing in Guantanamo Bay. Welner testified he had spent eight hours examing Khadr, and 500-600 hours preparing his testimony." Erroneous. Dr. Welner testified that he had spent 500-600 hours researching this case, not 500-600 preparing his testimony
"Welner called Khadr a 'Jihadi rock star'" No, Dr. Welner specifically quoted the Deputy Camp Commander as saying that the other detainees regarded him as a “rock star”. This is reflected in the trial transcript.
…"and described the Qur’an as 'a criminal book that forces people to do criminal things.'" Dr. Welner specifically said that he did not regard the Quran as a criminal book and that if he had, he would not have recommended deradicalization. (The reference to the criminal book of the Quran is meant to create a threat and to inflame Muslims)
"Welner called "political" Sennels assertion that Musims can not integrate into western societies."
This misstates Dr. Welner’s testimony. He spoke quite openly about how Muslims integrate into New York, and further pointed out that Sennels assertion was substantively what German Chancellor Angela Merkel had stated.Stewaj7 (talk) 16:19, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like you guys are working it out. I'll keep an eye on the article. Don't go and make a ton more reverts again, ever, though; that's just a waste of edits and doesn't get anywhere. Airplaneman ✈22:02, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
A few months ago, I added to a section of Bill Gates page entitled "Criticism". In it, I discussed what is a fairly common criticism of Bill Gates, that he often closely mimics other's software, and used a source for one of the criticisms. My comments were removed, and I'd like to ask what you feel would be the proper way to address the topic.
I certainly do not want to vandalize any page, and was not intending to do so. However, I feel I was not vandalizing. Bill Gates has many good attributes, such as his philanthropy and obvious intelligence and skill in the world of software. However, like any human, has negative attributes as well. It is important to understand and be able to discuss and even refute criticisms to be able to understand the more positive attributes.
As of now, there isn't any criticism section on Bill Gates page. Surely, some criticism section is warranted. I thought I was summarizing the common detractments in a civil manner, but I must have been mistaken. What would be the appropriate way of making my remarks so that I'm not seen as vandalizing his page, but still mentioning criticisms that are often mentioned when he is discussed?
Hi Dredlox. Here is the stuff I removed; sorry for using the "revert as vandalism" button on Twinkle, a handy editing tool which you may want to try out if you're not on Internet Explorer. In hindsight, your additions were in good faith and I should have noted that. The main reason I decided to remove them was because they did not appear to adhere to the neutral point of view policy. Also, they weren't reliably or well-referenced. This is critical, especially for biographical articles, so living people aren't adversely affected by their entries on the world's largest encyclopedia. In addition, criticism as well as successes are woven into the other sections of articles; therefore, a section solely dedicated to criticism is not needed. There's no "praise" section, for instance.
Hello Airplaneman, and thank you for participating in my RfA, which failed with 20 support votes, 34 oppose votes, and 11 neutral votes. All the feedback was much appreciated, and the concerns that were brought up are surely not falling on deaf ears. I will strive to listen to everyone's feedback in the days, weeks, and months to come, and I hope that I will eventually be able to gain the community's trust and receive the admin tools so I can further benefit this encyclopedia. Happy editing! –Access Denied (talk)
Speaking as a TPS, just like quite a lot of younger Wikipedians (like me) school really cuts down on time spent on Wikipedia, that's seems like what's happening to Airplaneman. Derild4921☼19:39, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thats what I was thinking that it would be, but I was wondering how long he was going to be under this because I would like him to review some articles, but I can wait untill others can. Nascar1996 20:01, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe in a few years; I'll see where life takes me ;). I'll still be around, though. Maybe I could review over the Thanksgiving holiday? (no guarantees) Airplaneman ✈23:04, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I will be away for the second half of December visiting family (and yes, I will ride a plane to travel :D). My Thanksgiving doesn't look too hectic though. What articles did you want to to take a look at? Airplaneman ✈01:05, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Mostly 2010 Sylvania 300. I believe that it is very close to FA-class, and it has been nominated fo GA, by myself. I just want to see how the main part of the article is. I have been basing most of it from FA-class Formula One articles. There are also four other articles that are nominated for GA, two of them that I am 99% that they will not be promoted. Also how do you think of this image as valued or FA (if you know)? Nascar1996 01:18, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
At a glance, Sylvania 300 needs work, especially with the prose, but it looks like a solid article. As for the pic, I don't think it's near VP or FP quality. Although I'm no expert, there are many things about the picture I could nitpick about, including the positioning of the main subjects (car and pit crew), which are a bit to the right instead of center. I don't want to say more lest I epicly fail and give wrong tips. That doesn't mean it's a bad picture; it's pretty good actually. I just don't think it's a VP or FP. You can always nominate it and see what others have to say. Airplaneman ✈01:25, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
About Page Restoration
My T. Michael Riddle page was deleted and the reason seemed to be because you believed it was for advertising purposes. I assure you the page was meant to be educational, informing people and sharing knowledge about who he is. You have a similar page for Ronnie Montrose at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronnie_Montrose that was not deleted. My page was written in a similar way, but it would help if you sent a message asking about concerns you may have before deleting a page to see if they might be clarified.
I would like my page to be restored and am willing to discuss any concerns you might have had with it. The deletion would have had to occur between Friday and today (Monday, Nov. 15), if that helps. If there was something specific about the page that need be taken out, I am willing to revise and reword what I need to but I rather not go through having to recreate the whole page.
Hello Holly (would you like me to call you that or by your username?), I see you've posted over at User_talk:Alexf#About_Page_Restoration as well - he provided an extremely thorough response and I won't waste your or my time restating what he said. I'm just curious - how did you find out about me here (I don't remember having prior contact with you)? Regards, Airplaneman ✈23:34, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Done :). For future reference, it's a {{db-u1}} candidate because it doesn't contain talk history as a cut and paste archive, and it's part of your userspace. Airplaneman ✈01:57, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I find it easier to contact you, but I'll follow your suggestion anyways. I have requested it like that before, but you do it a lot faster than others who have to read the category that has all of them on it. Nascar1996 01:59, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yea, C:SD has been quite backlogged lately. We need more admins patrolling it, especially the A7 nominations because it may take a few minutes to review a situation and make a good decision about what to do; if only one person is doing that, the backlog will go nowhere. Oh well. Airplaneman ✈02:06, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Changing to a different subject, it is about time to get ready for next season: 2011, as though this coming weekend is the final race of this year. What exactly should I put in the background section on the 2011 Daytona 500, since there are no pre-race point standings. Maybe include some quotes from the Budweiser Shootout? Nascar1996 02:13, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't recall your previous "wikibreaks" ending... and now a new one is "starting"... Heh. By the way, it'd be nice if you stuck around just a couple weeks more. The WP Warriors role call is scheduled to start on the 27th of november. I was going to tell you on Sat., but I may as well mention it now, before you "disappear". Brambleclawx04:00, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The Princess will be glad to assist in delivering messages. @Airplaneman - have a nice wikibreak. I suppose I'm still technically on break, but it's kind of variable based on my RL responsibilities any given day. Anyhoo...it's gonna be quiet with you gone. PrincessofLlyrroyal court04:15, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I shall get Night Whispers soon. Every time a book comes out, people try to write a massive edit not-so "summary". Oh well. It seems like we're going to have a lot fewer people after the role call. Brambleclawx01:17, 18 November 2010 (UTC)Add I was typing my edit summary, then missed a key and hit enter probably, and somehow managed to edit conflict myself... weird.[reply]
November 23, just like the US, I believe. Plus a couple days to a couple weeks for the library to process it (like sticking barcodes on it). Brambleclawx01:22, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
a couple of files of not-working Vector skin issues have no descriptions. I really don't have any use for them anymore, so I thought maybe you could delete them. But also, I would like to know, since they are linked to in the Bug report page, is it necessary to keep it and add a description? (Not expecting a "quick" reply). Brambleclawx01:19, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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