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I write from first hand experience, not only - I've been contacted by other people that had the same problem. So I feel free to write whatever is true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TRUEVOICENYC (talk • contribs) 17:24, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Content of Wikipedia articles must be verified by independent third-party sources, personal testimony is not accepted. Please see WP:VERIFY. Cassandra 73 ^talk 17:43, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cassandra, I understand your concerns with the conclusions drawn. In that case I'd like to post only what is clearly verifiable - namely that Platt wrote an article for Make in which he claimed that DDWFTTW (directly downwind faster than the wind) is not possible, and that a recent world record for DDWFTTW was established. Perhaps the fact that he has been a condescending prick, still does not accept DDWFTTW, and that he won't settle up on his bet with Emilio will have to be left out of it. After all, it's one thing to make a claim that DDWFTTW is not possible, but it's another thing entirely to publish an article in Make magazine with that conclusion, and to insult a fine engineer like Jack Goodman in the process. This is all verifiable and appears in his published article. Spork33 (talk) 18:36, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Now that I've seen your other edits, you are obviously connected to this controversy; you have a conflict of interest and are therefore very strongly discouraged from editing the article. You also made these edits as an IP when you have an account, this could be seen as "editing logged out in order to mislead" per WP:ILLEGIT. If you have some sort of dispute with Platt, his Wikipedia article is not the place to air it. Cassandra 73 ^talk 19:53, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My editing while logged out has only to do with the fact that I have extremely little experience with wikipedia. By reducing my edits to the doucumented and relevant facts, they should be completely acceptable. I have no interest in settling a dispute with Platt through wikipedia, and I don't in fact have a dispute with him. I do have an interest in updating this article so that it is a more complete, accurate, and balanced description of Platt - and I will do so. Spork33 (talk) 20:30, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Looking back at the article I see now that my edits appear to be the only edits that require any sort of references or verification. Starting from the top, let's see what statements are without any sort of verification:

- (born in London, England, 1945) - is an author, journalist and computer programmer. - He relocated from England to the United States in 1970, - is a naturalized U. S. citizen - has one daughter, Rose Fox. - is the nephew of Robert, Baron Platt, of Grindleford. - The Silicon Man has been endorsed by William Gibson - Platt was nominated for Hugo awards and received a Locus Award - Charles Platt has also used pen-names... - Platt ceased much of his activity as a fiction writer after 2001 - in 2005 he was offered a contract... - Platt is also known for writing The Gas (novel) -(Girodias also published several of Barry N. Malzberg's early novels.) - When Platt's novel was published in the United Kingdom by Savoy Books in 1980, copies were seized by the UK's Director of Public Prosecutions.

I could go on. But hopefully you get my point. I don't see a bit of evidence for any one of these "facts" or for that matter most any of the rest of the article. My edits at least have valid references. Are we simply going to go back and forth on these edits, or are we going to come to some reasonable compromise? Spork33 (talk) 03:21, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you're right, the article is inadequately sourced at the moment and I'll look into this. (I hadn't seen this article before chancing across your edits.) However with articles about living persons we exercise particular caution with controversial information. Per Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons: "any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be attributed to a reliable, published source using an inline citation. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced—whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable—should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion." For the most part your edits did not have valid references.

I'll reply further later as I'm at work at the moment. Cassandra 73 ^talk 12:23, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I will attempt to clean up the article, but that's a separate matter from your edits. Please see WP:BURDEN – this puts the onus on the editor who wishes to add the material to provide verification. This requirement is not waived for future edits to an article just because it already contains unsourced material; there is also specific provision for swift removal of poorly sourced material which might damage the reputation of living persons.

If you still want to pursue this, then in line with the conflict of interest guideline I would strongly recommend you discuss any proposed changes on the talk page of the article rather than editing it directly. Cassandra 73 ^talk 07:53, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How about if you and I come to an agreement on the verifiable and relevant facts - and you make the appropriate edits? Spork33 (talk) 12:17, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please take it to the article's talk page, I would like input from other editors. Cassandra 73 ^talk 12:36, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Set Sail For The Seven Seas 18° 43' 30" NET 01:14, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! It's always good click the orange bar and find a friendly message. Cassandra 73 ^talk 16:49, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No problem! Set Sail For The Seven Seas 291° 10' 45" NET 19:24, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

--Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 16:53, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you too! (Did I sound like I was dropping a hint? It's just my talk page has been mostly BLP-violating SPAs lately.) Cassandra 73 ^talk 17:18, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

--Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 17:25, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Set Sail For The Seven Seas 291° 27' 44" NET 19:25, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, this has completely cheered me up! Cassandra 73 ^talk 20:19, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's good to hear! Happy editing! Set Sail For The Seven Seas 320° 35' 14" NET 21:22, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not to be outdone... I just posted this~! --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 11:21, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I won't be outdone either - here's another! Set Sail For The Seven Seas 192° 8' 0" NET 12:48, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Facepalm2 *runs for cover!* --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 15:15, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This might on for a while! Set Sail For The Seven Seas 235° 38' 15" NET 15:42, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]