User:JCarriker/talk temp

Jcarriker,

Though I still would appreciate moderation of your endorsement, I'd like to say thanks for working to tone down the vitriol.

-Justforasecond 16:59, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The new maps are now available on the map page. Please review them and my post on its talk page. Suggestions and comments are highly encouraged. -JCarriker 17:57, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Visually, great. As you know, I'm more inclined to split some states down the middle (does anyone really not consider West Texas part of the West?) but it's not an issue I plan to start a fight over. -- Jmabel | Talk 18:42, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, i've been busy lately, i'm going to copy and paste everything there to WP:WPY now. And thanks for your offer regarding my subproject, I think i'll take you up on it. karmafist 20:06, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

For informing we of Alabama Boy's wanting to leave. εγκυκλοπαίδεια* (talk) 16:53, 10 December 2005 (UTC) 21:52, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the notice! (I hadn't noticed.) I'll fix some errors in it now; hope you don't mind. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 22:52, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, You may be unfamiliar with me, however, I have come seeking an opinion from an administrator, and I happened to stumble upon your page. I've been here at Wikipedia for two moons, or so. Based on my contributions, etc, if I were to be hypothetically nominated for a janitor post, would I hypothetically have your support? I'd rather get an opinion here than in the actual vote. Thanks --Jay (Reply) 23:37, 11 December 2005 (UTC). (please reply at my talk page).[reply]

While I applaud your project, I don't think I am well-suited for active membership

• For one, while I strongly define myself as "non-white", and (despite my lack of recent African blood) I see myself as strongly moulded by the culture of the diaspora (as any Caribbean person must be) I have not been very successful in connecting with African Americans, especially undergraduates. It bothers me with my own students - I feel like I should be able to make my classes more hospitable for them than other classes, but so far I have not succeeded. Thus, I don't know if I would be much of a help to recruit African American editors.
• For another, I don't feel comfortable using my real name in Wikipedia. It's just too big. I am hunting for my first real job - I don't want a hiring committee member googling me and discovering where I spend all my time. In addition, I have edited articles about some rather scary people back home (allegedly linked to islamists, drug cartels, extortion, kidnapping and "protection" rackets; tried to overthrow the government in 1990). I don't want my name connected with the article about them. It's a slim chance that someone associated with them would want to carry out a reprisal, but it's also very easy to connect my name with my family (I have relatives who are prominent back home). I'd rather be paranoid than wrong :)

That said, I am willing to help out in any way that I could. But I don't see myself as a useful formal member of the group. Guettarda 00:36, 12 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

It seems that I became the Operation Wisła article star, and have my own stalker now, who loves leaving me such love letters on my user page :D--SylwiaS | talk 14:09, 12 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hey JCarriker! Thanks for your support on my RfA. The final outcome was (57/4/3), so I am now an administrator. If you need help, have a question, or just want to chat (or if I get out of line!), please don't hesitate to let me know! Again, thanks! :D

Tomer^talk

Thanks to everyone for their support. I've now had time to clear my head. I agree that we can't back down to the idiots who drove out Deeceevoice. Personally, I hope she returns but until then we've got work to do. I'd strongly suggest that everyone keep an eye out for users engaging in racism and bias. I'm also hoping that we will keep in touch about this issue and let each other know when we encounter racist editors and such. Any other ideas how to combat this?--Alabamaboy 15:05, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I think the HBCU outreach is a great thing. In fact, I used to be associated with a HBCU. The only reason I did not sign the outreach page was b/c you wanted us to sign our real names. I work as an academic and while I love my work at Wikipedia I prefer not to do it under my real name b/c of the potential for harm to my job. Basically, many of my academic colleagues not only don't consider working at Wikipedia as real publishing but, according to some annecdotes I've heard, hold it against those who do work at Wikipedia when stuff like tenure and all comes up. Would it be ok to sign the outreach document under my username?--Alabamaboy 17:17, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I can tell, it isn't an academic bias against Wikipedia - it's an academic bias against focussing on anything other than your field. I think this article from the Chronicle of Higher Education gives a window onto the mindset. Guettarda 17:46, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Dear JCarriker,

I'm an administrator, and I've got you to thank for it! Thanks to your support, my RfA passed 25/0. Please don't hesitate to contact me if I can help you with anything. See you around the wiki, :-) Alhutch 05:56, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. I'm really glad you're sticking around. Thanks for the help with the Children's Organ Transplant Association page and for the support on my RfA.

In my opinion Justforasecond borders on obsession with the idea of "punishing Deecee" and has mericlessly pursued that goal. However, he's not Wareware, he seems to be nothing more than a good person acting poorly. Might I ask what is it about his behavior that you find racist? If there is evedince to that effect that I have been unable to find, I would very much like to be made aware of it. Thanks. -JCarriker 05:59, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think he was acting racist per se. I find him to be a nice, but obsessive individual. I think the filing of the RfC and RfAr was rooted in some or another typre of racism. I could be wrong or right, dunno. Hopefully everything will get to normal.εγκυκλοπαίδεια* (talk) 16:16, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi JCarriker,

Thanks for the comment on my talk page. I know you disagree with filing the RfA against deeceevoice, but I think it is necessary. As far as I can tell, deeceevoice has violated civility, NPA, NOR, and NPOV repeatedly, and has shown little regard for anyone asking her to abide by these policies, either individually or in her RfC. From previous conversations, I think you may disagree with this assessment, but if you did believe that she had violated all of these, what is appropriate? Beyond my own offense at her comments, it's not responsible to let an editor like deeceevoice continue to go unchecked. We have policies that were designed to be a reasonshould be followed. Of course we shouldn't be the gestapo if someone throws a tantrum now and then, but this is not a "once in a while" sort of thing. I've come across even more offensive stuff from her just recently: I find such images and the display of so much pink flesh distasteful. This has no place in wikipedia

I wanted the RfC to get the message across to deeceevoice that there were a significant number of editors who found her behavior unreasonable, but she cast it aside in rather dismissive language. I don't know what will come of the RfA. It may ultimately go nowhere, and hurting other editors. I may end up being banned for filing it. I don't want either of these scenarios. What I hope is that the RfA will make it clear what is permissible here and what isn't. We can't have thousands of editors abiding by posted standards, and a few that consistently break the rules.

-Justforasecond 22:29, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, if you have a free minute, could you please check the requested move voting of Partitions of Poland to Partitions of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. As you'll see from discussion, we really need some outside view. Thanks.--SylwiaS | talk 22:40, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Yes, I agree, and I am also of an opinion that what was commonly called Poland then, was in fact PLC, not the Poland as we know it today. Times and borders have changed, but the common name for the historical country remained. I don’t have a problem with the longer and more correct name, esp. that in Polish we often use it. I just want to know how it may be accepted by English speakers. As for now the opinions are divided. I can understand it too, after all the Battle of Britain is called in majority of Wikis Battle of England (Polish included). Would you mind if I pasted your response to the article’s talk page?--SylwiaS | talk 00:19, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you leave Esperanza? -4micah 05:37, 18 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Did you miss me while I was gone Jay? :) I don't even know why I am here now. Boredom, I guess. Hehe. RJN 17:50, 18 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I have posted a message on Justforasecond's talk page asking JFAS to top harassing Deeceevoice and posting all over Wikipedia about her. To me, this is pure and simple harassment. I'm hoping that JFAS will listen to reason and let the RfA run its course but if JFAS doesn't I plan on bringing a RfC against him. Please check out what I wrote on his talk page and, if you agree or disagree, please post that there so there will be a record of all this. Thanks,--Alabamaboy 02:40, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi JCarriker,

I don't know why you thought it necessary to come to my talk page again. We've discussed this before. The only change since the last discussion was my post to the administrator's noticeboard. I don't know if you've read deeceevoice's page recently, but it has some very offensive material, such as:

 And did I mention the endless campaigning for more RfA pilers on on   
 article and personal talk pages (including my own)? Join in: "Let's    
 have   a lynch party! Martha, you bring the picnic basket, Tommy 'll   
 get the kerosene, and Dickie 'll bring the camera."

This is the most offensive comment ever directed at me. It's bad enough that folks are calling me (or insinuating that I am) racist, but this makes me a racist murderer who has a family picnic while doing the crime. How would you feel about something like that? Isn't that reasonable cause to post on the administrator's noticeboard?

It seems that Alabamaboy is trying to gather an RfC. If you agree with Alabamaboy, I'd appreciate it if you told me which part of Wikipedia:harassment I'm violating so I can stop. (Of course, simply filing an RfAr can't be enough??)

As to my edits on this -- the number is certainly high. It takes forever. If you guys didn't come to my page you could have saved me five edits.

Anyway, I am taking a break from the deecee proceedings. I'll come back next month. It seems the RfArs take that long to get into evidence phase, when accepted.

-Justforasecond 06:21, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't responded (although I have been reading) because you folks have been doing a fine job .. and I didn't think my input would add much to the project for now. Davodd 08:18, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm thinking that given the current problems it would be appropriate for WP:WPY to host a discussion on Wikipedia and Race. Please get back to me with your ideas. -JCarriker 07:37, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting proposal. What's the proposed scope? I'd be inclined to keep it to the English-language Wikipedia (at least as a focus). Are we mainly talking U.S. here, or wider? For example, are we trying to discuss ethnic conflicts in Eastern Europe? Are we trying to discuss anti-Arab racism and anti-Semitism? And are we talking race prejudice or racism (or both), because they are very different matters, the first being a matter of individuals' views, and the latter being about systems of oppression.

I do think there is potential here, but I'm honestly hesitant to launch into a wide open wiki-style discussion without preamble and (inevitably) without moderators. As we've seen on the recent RfC and RfA about deeceevoice, some very ugly statements may come rapidly to the fore.

If we are to do this, I would first like to see a small, self-selected group forge a draft statement to begin the discussion. (Notice, please, that I am stating this on the wiki, not in email. And I think we should forge that statement equally publicly, but not by inviting everyone to participate).

I believe that what you propose would be tough, because from what I can tell a disproportionate number of English-language Wikipedians are young middle-class males with rather limited experience of the world, and while undoubtedly virtually all of these personally know at least a few non-white people, probably most have never functioned in a milieu that was not predominantly white. Many appear to me to believe that European and European-diaspora (and anglophone) values and culture (and, for some of them, even people) are the norm, and anything else is a deviation, and is always subject to suspicion as being sub-standard.

No doubt someone will pick on my words here and once again claim that I am an anti-white racist. So it goes. One cannot confront racism without talking about race. The attitudes I'm talking about are not, by any means, unique to white people, but that is what faces us in the English-language Wikipedia. I imagine that a Korean trying to edit the Japanese Wikipedia faces much the same, as does a Russian from Chişinău or a Hungarian from Sibiu trying to work in the Romanian Wikipedia.

You can reply here, I'll watchlist your page for a while. -- Jmabel | Talk 08:20, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

First lets change the title to Wikipedia Race and Ethnicity since race and ethnicity overlap this is a more correct title. I think that we should concentrate-for now on whats already hit the fan- and invite Alabamaboy, Encyclopedist, and Matt Crypto to participate in a discussion with us. I also agree we should limit participation- by placing a notice at the top of the page, we should back this up by housing it intially in userspace so that we have a leg to stand on in limiting participation. Racism and prejudice certainly are here,we know that from Wareware and his ilk, but I think we are talking about ignorance more than anything else. I'd post more but its 3:00 AM. -JCarriker 09:13, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

That would be a good group to start with, we can always expand by inviting in others. And, yes, we would have to do this in User space. Do you want to host it and invite people? -- Jmabel | Talk 23:44, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I guess it probably would be best if it were hosted in my userspace-. I'll also do issue the invite but we should talk to our fellow regent Maltmomma since WPY will be the sponsor of the discussion. -JCarriker 00:00, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi JC and Jmabel, This sounds very interesting. I'm sure you both are well aware that anytime politics, race or religion are discussed it can quickly become a firestorm that can get away from one's main objective. Having said that, I think a well controlled, moderated discussion might work. At least this way, everyone might acknowledge the elephant sitting in the middle of the room. This is an honorable idea and while it may very well be a massive undertaking, I'll help in any way I can. Maltmomma ^(chat) 02:50, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

If someone gets a page started and points me to it, I have plenty to say. In any event, I'd like it to start with two things: (1) an acknowledgment that there have been some very testy issues around race and ethnicity in Wikipedia and (2) a clarification of the distinction between race prejudice and racism. -- Jmabel | Talk 19:54, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Ok start here: I'm inviting Alabamaboy, Bcorr, Encyclopedist, JCarriker, Jmabel, and Matt Crypto to partiicipate. -JCarriker 20:17, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

:D Welcome back! Take any case of your choice at WP:RFM. Redwolf24 (talk) 08:22, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

How's this? I seem a bit big-headed, but we did do a lot of things in pairs, and I'm sure he'll show up a lot in my wikibio. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:13, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

And you've been assigned WP:RFM#Nanking Massacre. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:33, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'll try my best to work on Wikibios, but I can't guarantee much. I'm hesistant to work on anyone's wiki-bio who is still active, and Essjay is still active at meta. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 20:55, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Responded on my talk, I hope you aren't upset. εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 23:04, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, it is great to have a friend here. I don't think anyone is persecuting me, I will think about readding my name to the stuff I belonged to. εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 05:45, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for supporting my RfA - I'll do my best as an admin to help make the dream of Wikipedia into a reality! BDAbramson T 23:06, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I am glad to here that. I have had a realisation that you may have been part of an online scenario I played a minor role in. I gather this from your heavy edits to Marshall, Texas, which became of importance in the scenario because a major player actually lived there and insisted on its inclusion. I hope that you do not find this dreadfully frightful. If so, I just want to say that I found your political theories eloquent, especially your attempt to harmonise political ethics, action, and values and I see that your attachment to green extends farther than your politics. Again, regards. -4micah 07:39, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and all the best for the New Year. Guettarda 17:51, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I am sorry that people are so foolish as to think that they have the right to vandalize my page.

Take care, εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 00:25, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Is Dallas/Fort Worth considered to be "along the Gulf Coast" region? In the Houston article, I stated that the Houston area is the largest economic region along the Gulf Coast region. This would be true if the Dallas/Fort Worth Metroplex is not considered to be "along the Gulf Coast" region. Thanks. RJN 02:08, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, sorry I haven't followed up on that yet—I was actually just thinking about it earlier today. I will definitely be visiting the Met next week now that I'm off work for the holidays (and my girlfriend got me a membership to the museum for Xmas!). Postdlf 00:26, 25 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've made a comment at the Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Deeceevoice/Workshop and now I'm done. This is a lynching, I called it what it was, and now I'm moving on. It's a shame, though, that all this has happened.--Alabamaboy 03:17, 25 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the comment. I'm aware that Deeceevoice has inflamed the situation but that doesn't change that I believe this case is a type of lynching. But, as I said, I'm moving on now. Just felt the need to state what I felt this case really was. I should also state, though, that I don't think the Arbcom are racist but are merely continuing what other racists started. I've amended my post on the arbcom page to reflect this. Best and Merry Christmas. --Alabamaboy 15:16, 25 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! (I'm not kosher, by the way. I'm very secular. Then again, I don't eat mammals or birds, so Southern cooking for me mostly means catfish. Yum.)

Thank you, sincerely, for this and other similar gestures, but really, please stop giving me "awards". My pages are getting to where I have too many of them. -- Jmabel | Talk 06:06, 25 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi JC, I respectfully submit my resignation to Wikipediology effective immediately as I just don't have the time to devote to it. I'm sure you can find someone to fill the position. Thanks. Maltmomma ^(chat) 01:37, 27 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

From both. Thanks. Maltmomma ^(chat) 14:36, 27 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I also didn't realize there wasn't an article on southern culture. I would indeed like to work on it with you. Why don't we start with the culture section from Southern United States and expand from there.--Alabamaboy 18:18, 27 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good. There was no reason those authors were left off of southern lit except that I never found the time to add them in. Seems like I never get enough time to edit everything as I want it (and messing around with little political stuff at Wikipedia hasn't helped :-).--Alabamaboy 18:47, 27 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I wanted to let you know that I still plan on working on this article but probably won't get a chance until next week. Also, I'm ok starting it out as a stub and going from there.--Alabamaboy 14:29, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I started the Southern Culture article at Culture of the Southern United States. At this point, it is just the culture section of Southern United States with a new lead. I'll be working to update it more in the coming week and hope you'll do the same. I also made a number of redirect leading to this new article. Best, --Alabamaboy 16:44, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, another editor has joined us in the article. He's made a number of great edits so far. When we're done with this article we'll have to make sure to update the culture section of Southern United States with this new info. Best, --Alabamaboy 14:02, 31 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Dear JCarriker,

Regarding your acrid comment below –

I do not appreciate the arrogant and suspiscious tone of your post scriptum. In a short order response: 1. I'm on Earth. What planet are you on? All of Texas can be considered the Southeast[1][2], from an ecological standpoint East Texas always is. 2. One of the defintions of land is the people of a nation, district, or region] and it was the one I was using. 3. My opinon was solicitied as was yours, I am no more meddling than you are. The theme of my post was that popular perceptions do not change facts and I find it regrettable that you illustrated my point by rejecting what I said about East Texas in favor of a popular, but false perception. This is an online encyclopedia yet when your preconceptions were challenged you just assumed that I had to be on another planet to believe things. Just as Renata writes of Lithuania your action here (read your rejection of what East Texas actually is in favor of the Cowboy and Cactus lie) is also VERY OFFENSIVE to East Texans. - JCarriker 12:43, 27 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

–

1. I assumed from your language that you were not a native English speaker. My mistake and apologies.

2. I still have no idea what you meant by "a stayed prudish land." (Staid?) Perhaps you would like to explain.

3. I have driven through both west and east Texas (and central Texas as well). East Texas is indeed warm and muggy in summer, unlike the arid western part of the state. In terms of climate, it is indeed humid-subtropical. However, it is not part of the Southeast United States in the commonly understood meaning of the term, which is more geographical than climatological. Generally, I believe Texas as a whole is considered part of the South more than the Southwest, but these regional terms are amorphous and open to interpretation. For example, my state, Idaho, is said to be part of the Northwest or Pacific Northwest by some and part of the Intermountain West by others. My native state, Minnesota, is known variously as part of the Midwest, the Upper Midwest, the North and the Old Northwest. (There are many companies in Minnesota with "Northwest" in their titles, such as Northwest Airlines, even though Minnesota is obviously not part of the Northwest as we understand it here in the West.)

4. Renate completely misunderstood my comment. I was not suggesting that Lithuania should be ignored or belittling the country (which I have visited many times and find fascinating) in any way. The discussion was about the title for a historical piece on the partitions of Poland in the 18th century, which a number of Polish and Lithuanian Wikipedians think should be changed to "Partitions of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth." My argument has nothing to do with the importance of the two countries; it was solely focused on the fact that this topic is known everywhere in the Western world as "The Partitions of Poland," and that complicating the title by adding "Lithuanian" and "Commonwealth" to it would serve no purpose on an English-language encyclopedia site.

Sca 19:48, 27 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

...that I visited the Met today, and not only did I verify firsthand that there is an entire room filled with statues of Hatshepsut and relics from her tomb (except for one display case of roughly contemporary artifacts), but I took pictures of every statue in there. I will Photoshop and upload them tonight. Postdlf 00:06, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a page with thumbnails of the images I uploaded. The information given in the image descriptions comes from the placards accompanying each piece in the museum. I also took some pictures of the smaller head fragments you'll see mounted on the wall in the background of the panorama image; let me know if these will be useful as well. Postdlf 03:35, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Please vote here, I do not want Robchurch as an admin.εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 08:22, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the invitation. It was really nice to receive it. However, there is a but! I believe I've read everything there was to read and clicked all the interlinks, and yet I cannot find the region section. Could you point me out to it?--SylwiaS | talk 23:47, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. I've read all the essays and it sounds interesting. What I'm supposed to do?--SylwiaS | talk 10:12, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I was wondering if you can make a map for the Southeast Texas article when you get a chance. I see there are maps for other articles and would like to know which counties are considered to be in this subregion. Thanks! RJN 17:42, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Please remember that there is an ongoing conversation at User talk:JCarriker/Wikipedia: Race and Ethnicity. Please add it to your watchlist and/or check for new posts regularly. PS Can you believe we have been editing wikipedia over a period that spans four seperate years? Thanks. -JCarriker 19:14, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• I don't see any signs of an ongoing conversation. As far as I can see, I stated my major point a week ago and no one is responding. -- Jmabel | Talk 21:24, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd love to work on a Wikipedia article on the issue with you, but freelancing is sometimes problematic with my current job (they don't like it much). That doesn't mean we can't create a great WP article, though. Best! · Katefan0^(scribble)/mrp 16:36, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No; everybody loves εγκυκλοπαίδεια! -JCarriker 18:58, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I am very flattered. The "Everybody hates Encyclopedist" heading is a joke, I was thinking about Chris Rock's new show, so I satired it on my talk page. : ) εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 19:04, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for asking if I'd consider trying to be a regent at Wikipediolgy. I'm honored that you would ask. Unfortunately, though, I don't feel I have taken part in Wikipediolgy enough to do the duties required. Again, thanks for asking. Best,--Alabamaboy 22:30, 6 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I assigned you WP:RFM#Nanking Massacre and I haven't seen you say anything anywhere showing you're aware it's been assigned. So please reply at my talk page. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:22, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind about that, scraped away. Redwolf24 (talk) 04:09, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I'm just checking to make sure you're active. I'm checking with all the mediators listed as active to make sure they are truly active and ready to take a case. Reply at my talk page ASAP :) Redwolf24 (talk) 04:09, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]