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he is a good man.amnaThis page should only list the Secretaries for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs. The previous offices (Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, Secretary of State for the Colonies, etc.) should have separate articles. [[User:Jlk7e|john]] 23:51 May 9, 2003 (UTC)
he is a good man.amnaThis page should only list the Secretaries for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs. The previous offices (Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, Secretary of State for the Colonies, etc.) should have separate articles. [[User:Jlk7e|john]] 23:51 May 9, 2003 (UTC)


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We've lost Jack Straw! <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/86.139.119.84|86.139.119.84]] ([[User talk:86.139.119.84|talk]]) 00:08, 12 September 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
We've lost Jack Straw! <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/86.139.119.84|86.139.119.84]] ([[User talk:86.139.119.84|talk]]) 00:08, 12 September 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Requested Move ==

The United Kingdom is the only country to have a minister commonly called a "Foreign Secretary", the vast majority of [[foreign minister]]s hold titles which are all pretty much based on the formulation "Minister of/for Foreign Affairs", "Foreign Minister", or "Minister of External Relations". The US, the UK and Vatican City are pretty much the only exceptions with, respectively, "Secretary of State", "Foreign Secretary" and "Secretary for Relations with States". [[Foreign Secretary]] and [[Foreign secretary]] already redirect here. [[User:YeshuaDavid|YeshuaDavid]] ([[User talk:YeshuaDavid|talk]]) 23:35, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

===Discussion===
:''Any additional comments:''

===Survey===
:''Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with'' <code><nowiki>*'''Support'''</nowiki></code> ''or'' <code><nowiki>*'''Oppose'''</nowiki></code>'', then sign your comment with'' <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>''. Since [[Wikipedia:Polling is not a substitute for discussion|polling is not a substitute for discussion]], please explain your reasons, taking into account [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions|Wikipedia's naming conventions]].''

*'''Support'' as nominator [[User:YeshuaDavid|YeshuaDavid]] ([[User talk:YeshuaDavid|talk]]) 23:35, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

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This template must be substituted. Replace {{Requested move ...}} with {{subst:Requested move ...}}. he is a good man.amnaThis page should only list the Secretaries for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs. The previous offices (Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, Secretary of State for the Colonies, etc.) should have separate articles. john 23:51 May 9, 2003 (UTC)

Why? They are vastly equivalent roles! Anyway, this has a precedent elsewhere, see Secretary of State for International Development TreveXtalk 00:17, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not really sure what the deal was - it was almost three years ago, and there were a lot less articles to take precedents from. As long as it's made clear that the two offices are different, and that the current office includes the gobbled up Commonwealth Affairs Office (which was itself the amalgamation of the Colonial Office and the Commonwealth Relations Office), I don't really care if it's decided to merge. john k 00:53, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've reformatted the big list(section 1), but it's badly spaced out, I would fix this but I only did this to show how notepad + copy & paste can do, appologies if this messed anyone elses hard work, please revert if you don't like it, and feel free to fix the spacing --86.133.59.208 18:57, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Without the little-used status column the list could be shorter because we could spread out the dates onto one line, though I don't want to (and am not sure how to) make that change on my own. Ddye 02:13, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I've removed the status column, I think it looks much better now, as it is shorter and easier to understand.--86.133.59.208 11:10, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We've lost Jack Straw! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.139.119.84 (talk) 00:08, 12 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Requested Move

The United Kingdom is the only country to have a minister commonly called a "Foreign Secretary", the vast majority of foreign ministers hold titles which are all pretty much based on the formulation "Minister of/for Foreign Affairs", "Foreign Minister", or "Minister of External Relations". The US, the UK and Vatican City are pretty much the only exceptions with, respectively, "Secretary of State", "Foreign Secretary" and "Secretary for Relations with States". Foreign Secretary and Foreign secretary already redirect here. YeshuaDavid (talk) 23:35, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Any additional comments:

Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.