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:::Perhaps it should be [[:Category:Early co-educational boarding schools]] and cut off at 1900. I think that many UK boarding schools in the UK have introduced a second gender since 1980, or gone bust. Do you thinl an admin would be available to delete my ill-thought out category, or can I do it myself, one-by one. The category [[:Category:Co-educational boarding schools]] (Correct capitalisation) could then be used for sub-categories as you suggest. However, we already have the article [[Mixed-sex education]], which is a bit of a mess.[[User:Vernon39|<font color="green">Vernon White</font>]] <b><sup><small><span style="color:#90F">[[User talk:Vernon39|. . . Talk ]]</span></small></sup></b> 23:19, 12 July 2008 (UTC) |
:::Perhaps it should be [[:Category:Early co-educational boarding schools]] and cut off at 1900. I think that many UK boarding schools in the UK have introduced a second gender since 1980, or gone bust. Do you thinl an admin would be available to delete my ill-thought out category, or can I do it myself, one-by one. The category [[:Category:Co-educational boarding schools]] (Correct capitalisation) could then be used for sub-categories as you suggest. However, we already have the article [[Mixed-sex education]], which is a bit of a mess.[[User:Vernon39|<font color="green">Vernon White</font>]] <b><sup><small><span style="color:#90F">[[User talk:Vernon39|. . . Talk ]]</span></small></sup></b> 23:19, 12 July 2008 (UTC) |
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::::Hmmm... It appears to me that your proposal of [[:Category:Early co-educational boarding schools]] would not be consistent with the purpose of WP categories, as described at [[Wikipedia:Categorization]] (in particular, see [[Wikipedia:Categorization#When to use categories]] and also [[Wikipedia:Overcategorization]]). A better way to achieve your goal probably would be to write that article about the early history of co-education in boarding schools, and include an [[WP:Embedded lists|embedded list]] of the earliest co-ed schools. <br /><br />As for the renaming, I'm afraid that only an administrator can rename or delete a category. A change from upper case to lower case to conform with [[WP:MOS]] could be done as a "speedy rename," but anything more complicated would require a discussion at [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion]]. Doing it "by yourself, one by one" is frowned upon. --[[User:Orlady|Orlady]] ([[User talk:Orlady|talk]]) 23:52, 12 July 2008 (UTC) |
::::Hmmm... It appears to me that your proposal of [[:Category:Early co-educational boarding schools]] would not be consistent with the purpose of WP categories, as described at [[Wikipedia:Categorization]] (in particular, see [[Wikipedia:Categorization#When to use categories]] and also [[Wikipedia:Overcategorization]]). A better way to achieve your goal probably would be to write that article about the early history of co-education in boarding schools (writing a new focused article might be more efficient than attempting to repair all of the problems you perceive at [[Mixed-sex education]]), and include in the article an [[WP:Embedded lists|embedded list]] of the earliest co-ed schools. <br /><br />As for the renaming, I'm afraid that only an administrator can rename or delete a category. A change from upper case to lower case to conform with [[WP:MOS]] could be done as a "speedy rename," but anything more complicated would require a discussion at [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion]]. Doing it "by yourself, one by one" is frowned upon. --[[User:Orlady|Orlady]] ([[User talk:Orlady|talk]]) 23:52, 12 July 2008 (UTC) |
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Eugh. I'd missed out a closing slash in one of the refs. All sorted now! Thanks for taking a look. Smith609 Talk 18:09, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Scouting for Boys
Thanks - I think I saw it last year but it'll take another viewing. DuncanHill (talk) 23:35, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Category:Members of parliament for constituencies in Cornwall
Hi Vernon. I thought I'd let you know that the above category you created needs a capital 'P' for "parliament". I'm not sure if you use WP:AWB, but if not, you could add the category onto WP:CFR instead of doing it manually. Regards, Craigy (talk) 03:07, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- I have requested speedy rename at WP:CFR. DuncanHill (talk) 09:09, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- If I recall correctly, when a category is renamed, a bot goes along and fixes things. DuncanHill (talk) 21:49, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Meta
Hi Vernon, hope all is well with you and yours. I noticed you signed the community petition at Meta from an IP address. You shoul be able to log in to Meta using your Wikipedia username and password now with the new unified log in. DuncanHill (talk) 12:20, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for the postcard - I hope things are well with you. DuncanHill (talk) 18:07, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Coeducational boarding schools
I see that you have created Category:Co-educational Boarding schools. The name is not compliant with WP style ("boarding" should not start with an upper-case letter), but more significantly I wonder about the purpose of this category (and whether there is a useful purpose to this category). Was this based on a discussion somewhere? --Orlady (talk) 20:15, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry not to have been compliant. The new category may help to provide a basis for an article on early co-educational boarding schools and another on the history of changed attitudes to them. If you wish to change the title of this category, please can we preserve the hyphen in "Co-educational", please? Vernon White . . . Talk 20:35, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for explaining your objectives. My concern was that this category is going to be very large when it is fully populated, because many of the world's boarding schools (see Category:Boarding schools) are coeducational. Instead of the global category, you might want to consider subdividing categories such as Category:Boarding schools in England and Category:Boarding schools in Ireland by gender -- I think that might be more useful for your project.
The inclusion or exclusion of the hyphen in "co-educational" doesn't worry me; it can be spelled either way. However, note that renaming of a category requires administrator involvement -- see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion. --Orlady (talk) 21:47, 12 July 2008 (UTC) - Although I commented on the need for an administrator to be involved, the change in case for the first letter of the word should qualify to be a speedy renaming. --Orlady (talk) 23:00, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
- Perhaps it should be Category:Early co-educational boarding schools and cut off at 1900. I think that many UK boarding schools in the UK have introduced a second gender since 1980, or gone bust. Do you thinl an admin would be available to delete my ill-thought out category, or can I do it myself, one-by one. The category Category:Co-educational boarding schools (Correct capitalisation) could then be used for sub-categories as you suggest. However, we already have the article Mixed-sex education, which is a bit of a mess.Vernon White . . . Talk 23:19, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for explaining your objectives. My concern was that this category is going to be very large when it is fully populated, because many of the world's boarding schools (see Category:Boarding schools) are coeducational. Instead of the global category, you might want to consider subdividing categories such as Category:Boarding schools in England and Category:Boarding schools in Ireland by gender -- I think that might be more useful for your project.
- Hmmm... It appears to me that your proposal of Category:Early co-educational boarding schools would not be consistent with the purpose of WP categories, as described at Wikipedia:Categorization (in particular, see Wikipedia:Categorization#When to use categories and also Wikipedia:Overcategorization). A better way to achieve your goal probably would be to write that article about the early history of co-education in boarding schools (writing a new focused article might be more efficient than attempting to repair all of the problems you perceive at Mixed-sex education), and include in the article an embedded list of the earliest co-ed schools.
As for the renaming, I'm afraid that only an administrator can rename or delete a category. A change from upper case to lower case to conform with WP:MOS could be done as a "speedy rename," but anything more complicated would require a discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion. Doing it "by yourself, one by one" is frowned upon. --Orlady (talk) 23:52, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
- Hmmm... It appears to me that your proposal of Category:Early co-educational boarding schools would not be consistent with the purpose of WP categories, as described at Wikipedia:Categorization (in particular, see Wikipedia:Categorization#When to use categories and also Wikipedia:Overcategorization). A better way to achieve your goal probably would be to write that article about the early history of co-education in boarding schools (writing a new focused article might be more efficient than attempting to repair all of the problems you perceive at Mixed-sex education), and include in the article an embedded list of the earliest co-ed schools.