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Isn't it true that in the early 90's a WWF wrestler assulted McMahon after pay disputes? Also, should it be mentioned that allegedly there have been several wrestlers who have "blackmailed" Vince into more money, for example Jeff Jarrett and Ultimate Warrior. Lastly, should it be noted that while other wrestlers he has come to odds with over the years, like Hogan, Bret and Warrior, have all come back in some form (Warrior has DVD and an action figure), Randy Savage, for whatever reason, has always been reject by McMahon, despite the probable income a DVD would make. I know a Macho Man DVD was slated for release this year but McMahon nixed the idea, as well as nixing a Savage action figure. While the reason are unkonwn, there seems to be some heat there. [[User:Tobythegreat|Tobythegreat]] ([[User talk:Tobythegreat|talk]]) <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|comment]] was added at 10:23, 27 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Isn't it true that in the early 90's a WWF wrestler assulted McMahon after pay disputes? Also, should it be mentioned that allegedly there have been several wrestlers who have "blackmailed" Vince into more money, for example Jeff Jarrett and Ultimate Warrior. Lastly, should it be noted that while other wrestlers he has come to odds with over the years, like Hogan, Bret and Warrior, have all come back in some form (Warrior has DVD and an action figure), Randy Savage, for whatever reason, has always been reject by McMahon, despite the probable income a DVD would make. I know a Macho Man DVD was slated for release this year but McMahon nixed the idea, as well as nixing a Savage action figure. While the reason are unkonwn, there seems to be some heat there. [[User:Tobythegreat|Tobythegreat]] ([[User talk:Tobythegreat|talk]]) <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|comment]] was added at 10:23, 27 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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Jetsons is common knowledge

Someone deleted my statement about Spacely firing Jetson because it's "original info." It's common knowledge. All you have to do is watch an average episode of the Jetsons to see that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dstebbins (talk • contribs) 19:48, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but it's not notable. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 22:01, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If it's not notable, then so is McMahon's so-called "origination" of "You're fired" that pops up in several WWE- and The Apprentice-related articles. Let's be consistent here. We're talking about a signature of not one but two franchises - that makes the "catch phrase" and its origin very notable. 147.70.242.40 (talk) 20:25, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Illegitimate son storyline part II?

Maybe not until things are cleared up a bit more, but is this just gonna be an extension of the old piece, or its own, or what? Or is it probably not gonna be worth mentioning at all unless it becomes a bigger deal than it is right now? 3pointswish (talk) 23:44, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lee Terry

I think there should be a mention of the following article:

http://www.prowrestling.com/article/news/8602

Rep. Lee Terry Refuses To Back Down From McMahon Comments Date Added: February 29, 2008 Story By: Richard Gray

The war of words continues between Nebraska Congressman Lee Terry and Vince McMahon. McMahon responded to Terry’s comments earlier in the week that he flipped his finger to Congress for no-showing Wednesday’s Congressional hearing in a press release issued on the corporate WWE website.

Rep. Terry told the Omaha World-Herald that he was not backing down from his comments towards McMahon, especially because McMahon’s excuse for no-showing was because his attorney Jerry McDevitt unavailable to make the hearing.

Terry said, "He probably has more than one attorney, so it sounded pretty hollow," He added, "There's no doubt that the entertainment factor is that they are physically huge freaks — that's part of the show, so there is kind of a belief that steroids are very ubiquitous in the wrestling entertainment industry."

WWE spokesman Gary Davis told the publication that Terry’s comments "represent stereotypical assumptions made by people who don't follow professional wrestling.” —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.35.243.184 (talk) 18:22, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Purchase of ECW?

A minor irregularity- in the opening body of the text it claims that McMahon purchased WCW in 2001 and ECW in 2003, but later in the document it claims that McMahon purchased ECW in 2001. I belive the latter date is correct, so can it be verified and amended. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.106.45.125 (talk) 19:03, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Grandson

His grandson's name is Keynon, not Kenyon! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.194.248.5 (talk) 09:41, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Source? Zenlax T C S 19:17, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

World champion

vince is only a 1 time world champion when he won the ecw title it was not a recanized world title check pwi it was only reconised 1999-2001 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Devil Thunderbolt (talk • contribs) 19:01, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

YOU HAVE HORRIBLE GRAMMER!!!!!!!! he won the WWE title in the late 90's I think, not sure.Altenhofen (talk) 01:57, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

wrestlinggonewrong.com

Should this information be added to Vince's article here on Wikipedia?http://wrestlinggonewrong.com/tvshows/6521334.html- Wrestlinggonewrong was like a partner of wikipedia seeing as they would source articles of some of the incidents.(ie; Mass transit incident) Urena198 (talk) 01:17, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not named Junior.

The disambiguation section at the top

"This article is about Vincent Kennedy McMahon, Jr., current WWE Chairman. For his father, see Vincent J. McMahon."

should be amended to

"This article is about Vincent Kennedy McMahon, current WWE Chairman. For his father, see Vincent J. McMahon."

as there is no Jr. in his name. I would change it, but the article is locked.76.234.154.131 (talk) 06:46, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

craete an acount, you will be able to edit it.Altenhofen (talk) 01:58, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Higher Power" Revelation Date

The article lists the date of the Higher Power revelation as April 12; however, this happened after Over the Edge, which was in May, so the date is incorrect.

Rainbowhairedwarrior (talk) 06:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]


The Higher Power wasn't revealed at Over The Edge. McMahon continued to be a face for several weeks afterwards before being revealed on an episode of Raw. I don't know the date from memory but i know that it wasn't at Over the Edge.

Theincomparablebigci (talk) 12:33, 4 June 2008 (BST)

"Kiss My Ass Club"

On Vince's page, it states that Trish Stratus is in the "Kiss My Ass Club", because she was forced to join. Trish Stratus never actually made contact with Vince's backside, so therefore she shouldn't be named there. My proof is in this youtube video.[[1]] —Preceding unsigned comment added by -alex-shizzle- (talk • contribs) 16:16, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Billionaire ?

In WWE vince McMahon always says that he is a billionaire. Is it true? can anybody clear it with refferance? if he is than we should put this in the article Upol007 (talk) 05:37, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He most likely is worth a billion in assets, but owning 1 billion or more in cash; I highly doubt that. Altenhofen (talk) 22:10, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

not a "Jr."

This article lists him as being "Vincent Kennedy McMahon, Jr", but he is not a junior. It also lists "Vince McMahon, Jr" as one of his wrestling names, but it doesn't give a source. I have never seen him credited or billed as "Vince McMahon, Jr" on any televised program or written advertisement. Sometimes other wrestlers erroneously refer to him as "Junior," "Vince Jr," or "Vince McMahon, Jr" when they are speaking on documentaries or interviews, but this is not correct and doesn't belong in an encyclopedia page. I would edit the article myself, but I can't because of the protection status. Grammarian10 (talk) 19:41, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Irish-American

Should it read in the opening paragraph that Vince is Irish-American, similar to wikipedia pages that read 'Italian-American' and 'African-American'? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.240.101.123 (talk) 18:29, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vince's 6-23-08 accident.

During the final minutes of RAW on 6-23-08 after the $500,000 giveaway, the stage started to fall apart, starting with lights falling, then some lights sparking in front of Vince.Then, as he backed to the corner of the stage, it collapsed.An object then proceeded to fall and hit Vince.He wasn't killed, but he did however complain that he couldn't feel his legs, and had to be brought out on a stretcher.

Definitely needs adding. I'd do it, but can't due to the protection. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Red994 (talk • contribs) 03:27, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It looked real but it would just be another storyline to get people to watch the show. CNN, MSNBC, and FOX NEWS is not reporting anything on their channels or websites. McMahon’s medical condition, will be updated at the WrestleMania XXV press conference on Tuesday at 1 p.m. in Houston. 65.43.22.226 (talk) 03:30, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This really isn't all that notable. The set fell on him and he was wheeled off on a stretcher; big deal. Unless he his "presumed dead," similar to his first "death," then this really isn't that notable. –LAX 03:36, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If it's covered by reliable independent sources (and if it's real, which I doubt, then it will be covered) then we put it in, otherwise, we can't include it. After all, this may just be similar to when he blew up last year. Who knows. But without sources, nothing goes in. Calgary (talk) 03:40, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Plus, reading the News Release on the WWE website, they keep saying Mr. McMahon instead McMahon like any other real person. Also, why would they wait until a press conference already planned for WrestleMania? 65.43.22.226 (talk) 03:48, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I also want to add that I've been watching the video of this so called "accident" is fake. It looked like the set had fallen in a way that would have been released in a special way. The video is on the website. Look at the set falling and look at the button. 65.43.22.226 (talk) 04:02, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The wwe.com article should be enough to constitute an inclusion on the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.122.12.235 (talk) 04:09, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. We should wait until reliable third-party publications confirm his legit condition. –LAX 04:12, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Of course it is fake. Look at the video on wwe.com, there are metal pieces that you can hear click and watch them move at the same time, thus releasing the sign. Totally fake and if you even thought it was real for a second--you are crazzzy! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Microbunny (talk • contribs) 05:07, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I never did think it was real. I was explaining that WWE is obviously going to say it's legit, so we should wait until third-party sources confirm his condition. –LAX 05:11, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think the Million $ Mania thing should be included in one section. Also, it was obviously fake. Vince wouldn't have gotten up so fast if he had just fallen through the stage. And that big dollar sign thing fell on the stage, not on Vince. The Million $ Mania, Support. The 6/23/08 incident, I support it because it's a major storyline, but oppose it per LAX's statements SAVIOR_SELF.777 05:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If it was a real accident (which I doubt because it almost never is, but they do know how to sell it) then it shouldn't be added until it can be sourced to a reliable third-party. If it's fake then it shouldn't be added until the storyline is furthered enough to a)warrant its own section and b)have a definitive storyline. Right now it's not only questionable in its believability, but it's also not known where they're going with it.

That's just my opinion, though. -- Chickenmonkey 06:09, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. This should not be added until we find out from more of a confirmed from a news source like CNN or something like the Benoit incident was. FaithLehaneTheVampireSlayer 07:49, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
it is fake, and it has only happened as it is a way to stop the million $ mania —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.1.224.123 (talk) 18:31, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This still shouldn't be noted unless we have reliable third-party sources confirming it. –LAX 18:34, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

When the thing fell on top of Vince; Edge, Triple H and John Cena came to help, and they all attempted to lift the structure off him. Now... Triple H and John Cena are faces while Edge is a heel, this is a break of kayfabe only done in rare situations, and also, Triple h is heard saying "be careful!" and "Jesus Christ". There is a 51% chance this is legit --Hype-TDB (talk) 20:32, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Important to note that Vince called Triple H "Paul", his given name. This almost never happens and is a true break in kayfabe, especially since i have no recollection of very many people in the history of his career calling Triple H by his given name.Ryn2me (talk) 21:23, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think they did this to so people like "us" (People who know this stuff is fake but love it anyways) think it is real. After all, there were multiple breaks in kayfabe but proof that it was fake (Vince ducking before he "Didn't get hit). Altenhofen (talk) 02:51, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Vince is an idiot, thats just the way it is. Have you nticed the last "Fake Accident" happened in the same month this one did? Plus, it could be real or fake; after all, Cena and Triple H were both pretending to be KO'd, but they got up like speeding bullets to lift that thing off the man. I will check out the vid, see for myself if the damn thing is fake like last time. Altenhofen (talk) 22:07, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I watched it, IT IS 100% FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!! vince ducked down before the thing fell.

Those "reliable third-party sources" better not be those internet wrestling rumor sites I hope. --Maestro25 (talk) 23:22, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It should be noted that real accidents have happened in the past. For example Owen Hart. Lets wait for a third party source as LAX stated. Arzakon (talk) 02:12, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, accidents happen--but what are the chances of the first thing falling, Vince conveniently off-camera onto the gorund below, and then a completely seperate piece of equipment falls--while it is all caught perfectly on camera. Not to mention, that if it was unscripted/real they would have cut away from the close-up on Vince 'mangled' under the fixture. Also, as far as the Owen Hart incident goes---it's pretty safe to assume seeing a man fall multiple stories and land on his neck is not scripted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Microbunny (talk • contribs) 23:11, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If it had been real, they would have cut RAW from the air, especially considering that they were already running past their alloted time slot. Also, cameramen wouldn't have been hovering over Vince and blocking the paramedics. And on a closer look at the video, it is apparent that Vince isn't even hit by the falling structure. (Sawyer (talk) 01:52, 26 June 2008 (UTC))[reply]

That isnt nessicarly true! Some stations have been known to remain on air durning such events! This is to avoid a sorta panic from Civilans and immediate questions from media! I can assure you this was real! I examined the clip several times! Now you have to take in to account that equipment failure is not uncommon! to name a few:
  • The Big Show and Brock Lessner: The ring implodes! Civilan is injured when a peice of the ring fly at him(Minor Injury; No Charges) Camaga Man nearly taken out! Cause determended to be improperly instuled bolt and nearly 1,000 lbs Impacting the ring.
  • Durning Pyro Explosions a minor fire breaks out on the roof! Building Evacuated. (No injury and Minamal Damage; Show resumes Live)
  • Wreslemania 24: Pyro Explosions cause a partal Strucal Failure and causes 45 Civilans harm!
  • Vince and is nearly hit by a lighting fixture on the roof when it falls! When it impacts it weakens the stage and at the same time knocks a short in the Pyrotechnics causeing it to explode, and in tern causeing the stage to fall! Though unclear at this point the stage collopsing caused the Sign to fall just missing him but not totally as at impact it does hit him in the head and Back.
    • (This of corse is what I heard)

So we cant say its "Not Real" unless we know for sure! PS: Sorry for the bad Grammer but Im in a rush! --Wikiloli (talk) 15:43, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good point, but WWE has a track record of going to dead air but maintaining a visual feed for faked injuries, such as with Shawn Michaels back in 1996 when he got a "concussion" from Owen Hart, while they go to shots of the audience or to the announcers when a serious injury happens in ring, such as Owen Hart in 1999. This was by no means real. Had it been real, I guarantee you the superstars would have been shoving the cameramen out of the way to get to Vince, not giving them the closest spots. And really, looking at it from a common sense angle, what are the odds that the lights would fall, and miss, at the very end of the show, that Vince would be standing on the exact 6 by 6 section of stage that gave away, and that that specific lighting structure would fall? Also take in to account that if this had been real, it would have been announced on WWE's Corporate website. As it made no appearance at all, it can be safely assumed that this was a pure storyline. (Sawyer (talk) 22:30, 27 June 2008 (UTC))[reply]

"

This article has lots of this: "". Should it be cleaned up? Altenhofen (talk) 02:53, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Draft Incident

On the 08 Draft Vince got chrushed by the set. As it is not n there I went to edit it and geuss what? It was locked. So I have two questions. One is can a mod put it in? And two which is why is it locked? By locking it Wikipedia is preventing vital info from being in the article. So Wikipedia, I have four words for ya! WHAT WERE YOU THINKING!?!?!? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.2.164.184 (talk) 16:49, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article is semi-protected, which prevents anon IPs and newly registered users from editing the article. Anyways, this SHOULD NOT be added yet. Read my comments in the above discussion for my reason. –LAX 16:56, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

hey! they deleted my site for "not being wiki-oriented" i wouldn't blame them! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.202.136.49 (talk) 07:45, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Assult, pay disputes and Macho Man

Isn't it true that in the early 90's a WWF wrestler assulted McMahon after pay disputes? Also, should it be mentioned that allegedly there have been several wrestlers who have "blackmailed" Vince into more money, for example Jeff Jarrett and Ultimate Warrior. Lastly, should it be noted that while other wrestlers he has come to odds with over the years, like Hogan, Bret and Warrior, have all come back in some form (Warrior has DVD and an action figure), Randy Savage, for whatever reason, has always been reject by McMahon, despite the probable income a DVD would make. I know a Macho Man DVD was slated for release this year but McMahon nixed the idea, as well as nixing a Savage action figure. While the reason are unkonwn, there seems to be some heat there. Tobythegreat (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 10:23, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Source? (Sawyer (talk) 22:33, 27 June 2008 (UTC))[reply]