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WP:NETHERLANDS open tasks:

Article requests

See the missing article directory of the WikiProject Intertranswiki, and image requests of WikiProject Netherlands. Other requested articles are listed below.

• Land van Ravenstein [nl] - see Uden (18 Apr 2024)
• {{Infobox Dutch cabinet formation}} (30 Jan 2024) - to provide an overview of (in)formateurs, length of process, dates of stages etc is now hidden in the text. also the articles do not look very nice without. (I am not good enough in template writing to do it myself)
• National Cyber Security Centrum [nl] - see Cyberwarfare in the Netherlands (25 September 2023)
• 2023 People's Party for Freedom and Democracy leadership election (12 July 2023)
• Racism in The Netherlands (23 October 2022)
• Crime in The Netherlands (11 May 2021)
• List of King's and Queen's commissioners of South Holland (15 April 2021)
• List of King's and Queen's commissioners of Gelderland (15 April 2021)
• List of King's and Queen's commissioners of Overijssel (15 April 2021)
• List of King's and Queen's commissioners of Groningen (15 April 2021)
• Reeuwijkse Plassen (31 March 2017)
• Amsterdamse Waterleidingduinen (24 April 2017)
• Senators:
  • Nico Schrijver (24 April 2017)
  • Mohamed Sini (24 April 2017)
  • Lambert Verheijen (24 April 2017)
  • Ruard Ganzevoort (24 April 2017)
  • Frits Lindmeijer (24 April 2017)
• Censorship in the Netherlands (most other countries have an equivalent article)
• German occupation of the Netherlands (current redirect)
• Netherlands and the Second Boer War

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The article Golden Film is a featured article candidate. You can vote now on Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Golden Film. Thank you for your help! – Ilse@ 17:09, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A few facts:

1 We have a few hunderd municipalities in this country and all of them have an article on Wikipedia.
2 Bigger towns in this country usually have the same name as their municipality.
3 As a consequence, the city and municipality of Enschede for example share an article. The municipality however also includes towns such as Boekelo. Boekelo and other towns are given an article of their own, while the main city has to share it's article with the municipality, which is non-desirable and may be confusing.
4 It appears whether or not a bigger town has an article of it's own is based entirely on whether the name is the same as the municipality. For example the town of Drachten has it's own article, and so does it's municipality Smallingerland, even though Drachten counts for the majority of the population of the municipality (just like Enschede which shares the article).

I personally believe this is not right. Please have a look at the articles Amsterdam and Government of Amsterdam. You should also have a look at the articles on a random American city and county with the same name: Yakima, Washington and it's county Yakima County, Washington. Maybe we need to follow those examples.

Recently I was involved in a thought-provoking discussion with User:Arnoutf on what to do with the article Leeuwarden. See [1]. It seems to me we have two options: create one article article for a town with the same name as the municipality and two articles for a town with a name different from the municipality's name (Bad idea in my opinion) or make sure cities and municipalities have independent articles and make sure they coexist without redundant information. A big job that is, I know. I have some ideas on how to achieve this goal but first I would like to give you the opportunity to share your thoughts on this matter.

Regards, --Baldrick90 (talk) 22:06, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to amend your statement. Even with large cities/towns there is something stange going on. For example Assen (city) is about 95% of Assen municipality, while Emmen city, although by far the largest town in its municipality, is much smaller than its municipality (see the largest city of Drenthe debate on the Netherlands article). There are many large cities that take up almost all the municipality (like Assen: examples are Amsterdam, Utrecht, Rotterdam, Leeuwarden etc.) however there are also several large towns that extend well beyond the central town (like Emmen: these include Ede and Apeldoorn etc.)

That said, I see some value in your proposal, but I would approach this in a pragmatic way; as the amount of work to do this all in one go is probably staggering. I would start further discussion with a (as far as possible mutually exclusive) list of issues for each of the type of article, to prevernt redundancies. Arnoutf (talk) 22:28, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your proposal already appears to be carried out over at the Dutch Wikipedia. See for instance nl:Groningen (stad) and nl:Groningen (gemeente), nl:Ameland (gemeente) and nl:Ameland (eiland), nl:Amsterdam (gemeente) and nl:Amsterdam, nl:Apeldoorn (gemeente) and nl:Apeldoorn (stad), nl:Asten (gemeente) and nl:Asten (plaats), nl:Barneveld (gemeente) and nl:Barneveld (dorp), etcetera. I think this is a good way to go forward. Aecis^Brievenbus 23:29, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Starting more or less from fresh, think about all these additions: (dorp - village), (gemeente - municipality), (plaats - town), etc. It would make sense to agree on one appendix, perhaps (gemeente - municipality) in the vast majority of cases. Only Ameland (eiland - island) looks okay to me, but a redirect to (or perhaps from) Ameland (gemeente - municipality) would standardize this one too. Even though I suppose one or more bots could do a lot of work, it remains a major undertaking. B222 (talk) 07:09, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it would be necessary to make this distinction. We could keep the town/city/village articles where they are (e.g. Zwolle and Eindhoven) and create municipality articles (e.g. Zwolle (municipality) and Eindhoven (municipality). Disambiguation headers could point the reader from one to the other. I don't think it's necessary to move Zwolle to Zwolle (city) and Eindhoven to Eindhoven (city). Aecis^Brievenbus 12:46, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You can now support/oppose or comment to this featured picture candidate on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates#Wilhelmina and Juliana. Thank you, Ilse@ 13:00, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The picture was promoted, thank you for your support. – Ilse@ 09:06, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It would be nice if there was more than one featured image for this WikiProject. Candidates can be first be peer reviewed on Wikipedia:Picture peer review, or nominated directly on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. For inspiration: some high quality images that might pass the nomination are:
    

Thanks, Ilse@ 15:14, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How about any of the pictures by Jacob Olie? The self portrait dates back to 1862, the picture of the Oudeschans in Amsterdam dates back to 1863. These are among the oldest pictures of Amsterdam. Aecis^Brievenbus 16:18, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How about some of the maps by Blaue commons:Blaeu? Arnoutf (talk) 16:42, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think the photos of Jacob Olie would pass easily if they were of higher resolution (min. 1000 pixels). Blaeu images (like this one) would pass when they are used in English Wikipedia articles. See for detailed information about all criteria: Wikipedia:Featured picture criteria. – Ilse@ 10:55, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I nominated a beautiful photograph of the Prinsengracht as featured picture candidate. If you want support or oppose the nomination, please see Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates#Prinsengracht by night. Thank you for your help. – Ilse@ 11:36, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I nominated another image, of the arrest of Diponegoro by the Dutch General Hendrik de Kock. If you want support or oppose the nomination, please see Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Submission of the Prince to the General. Thanks, Ilse@ 23:15, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Help would be much appreciated in translating the following book titles, passages and terms appearing in the article "Emery Molyneux" that are not in English:

• "Tractaet Ofte Hendelinge van het gebruijck der Hemelscher ende Aertscher Globe. Gheaccommodeert naer die Bollen, die eerst ghesneden zijn in Enghelandt door Io. Hondium, Anno 1693 [sic: 1593] ende nu gants door den selven vernieut, met alle de nieuwe ontdeckinghen van Landen, tot den daghe van heden geschiet, ende daerenboven van voorgaende fauten verbetert. In't Latijn beschreven, door Robertum Hues, Mathematicum, nu in Nederduijtsch overgheset, ende met diveersche nieuwe verclaringhe ende figueren vermeerdert en verciert. Door I. Hondium".
• "Tractaet ofte handelinge van het gebruyck der hemelscher ende aertscher globe. ... Michiel Colijn, boeck-vercooper, woonende op't water, in't Huys-boeck, by de Oude Brugghe".

Do respond on the article's talk page. Thanks very much! — Cheers, JackLee ^–talk– 04:12, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

William III of England has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here.

Does anyone know what will happen to "Oranje boven, oranje boven, leve de koningin" when Beatrix abdicates and Willem-Alexander is crowned king? Was there a pre-1890 version of this song? If so, could you answer at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities#A Dutch patriotic song? Aecis^Brievenbus 12:13, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I nominated the list article 1928 Summer Olympics medal count as featured list on Wikipedia:Featured list candidates#1928 Summer Olympics medal count. You can help by editing the article or comment to/support/oppose the nomination. Thanks, Ilse@ 16:14, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The featured list candidate 1928 Summer Olympics medal count has undergone some changes since its nomination. I would like to invite you to support or oppose the candidacy on Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/1928 Summer Olympics medal count. Thank you, Ilse@ 23:45, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I am a member of WP:Disambiguation. I came across a red link to village named Halle, in Gelderland. Given that there are several places named Halle, what would be the most preferred name of the article about this Halle? For quite some time, its link from the dismambiguation page (Halle) has been Halle, Netherlands. Today someone changed it to Halle, Kingdom of the Netherlands. Which one is the recommended way for articles such as this one? And, is this place even notable enough to eventually have an article? I will watch this page for answers. Thank you! --Tesscass (talk) 18:57, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would select Halle, Netherlands as hardly any one will type in "Kingdom of", either editors or readers. Also it would have had the same name before Netherlands was a kingdom. An alternate would be Halle, Gelderland. It certainly is notable enough from my quick internet search. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:31, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The notability guidelines don't apply to cities, towns and villages. Or rather, they are by definition notable enough for Wikipedia. Perhaps so little can be said about a specific village that it might be better to incorporate it into another article, but that is another issue. As far as the naming is concerned, since this is the only Halle in the Netherlands, I think Halle, Netherlands is enough, with Halle, Gelderland as a redirect. Aecis^Brievenbus 22:37, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. --Tesscass (talk) 00:08, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think I proposed it earlier, but would having a monthly newsletter help in building this WikiProject? Aecis^Brievenbus 23:15, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It could improve enthusiasm and focus efforts and make us aware of achievements, however who will write it? Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:16, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I volunteer. Any others willing to join? Aecis^Brievenbus 12:17, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In a monthly newsletter should be news about this project. What news items were you thinking about? Maybe we can start a Collaboration of the Month on one article at a time? Starting one month in advance the users that are planning to contribute can vote for articles. – Ilse@ 17:52, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For examples of collaborations of other projects, see Template:COTWs. – Ilse@ 18:00, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is what a Collaboration of the Month could look like: User:Ilse@/collaboration. – Ilse@ 20:06, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The news items covered in a newsletter could be things like: important new articles, new members, featured (FA, FL, FT, FI, FP) and good (GA) content, the way real world developments affect the content of articles within this WikiProject, RfCs and RfArbs related to the WikiProject, etcetera. Aecis^Brievenbus 12:05, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have made some major edits to the article about Koninginnedag (Queen's Day). With your cooperation this article could be improved to reach good article status. Also see the to-do list on Talk:Koninginnedag. Thank you for your time. – Ilse@ 13:50, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Queen of the Netherlands (ship) article is up for deletion. All interested editors may comment at the article's entry on the Articles for deletion page. — Bellhalla (talk) 14:05, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

An image of the Mill Network at Kinderdijk-Elshout is a candidate featured picture. You can comment on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates#Kinderdijk. Thank you, Ilse@ 10:49, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello wikiproject members,

User:Guido den Broeder wishes to add information to the Vereniging Basisinkomen page, but since he is the treasurer he has a conflict of interest. I am unable to read the sources that he wishes to use to assert the edit is worth making. Could someone on the wikiproject review please? The request can be found at Talk:Vereniging_Basisinkomen#Proposals (the bottom of the section) and some previous discussion can be found here and here. WLU (talk) 14:43, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. A heads up that the article Airborne March is up for AfD. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 23:05, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Within WikiProject Companies I am trying to establish guidelines for all Lists of companies by country, the implementation of which would hopefully ensure a minimum quality standard and level of consistency across all of these related but currently disparate articles. The ultimate goal is the improvement of these articles to Featured List status. As a WikiProject that currently has one of these lists within your scope, I would really appreciate your feedback! You can find the draft guidelines here. Thanks for your help as we look to build consensus and improve Wikipedia! - Richc80 (talk) 13:36, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I just noticed six articles within the scope of this WikiProject have notability issues. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Notability/Listing by project/Page 4#WikiProject Netherlands. Aecis^Brievenbus 13:42, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]