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Oneworld25 and I appear to be in the early stages of a revert war, and I wanted to prevent such a war from occurring. So let's discuss:

I believe that Bard's refutation of allegations of discrimination in Israel should remain in the article. The argument against this (if I understand correctly) is that information is redundant, because the article states elsewhere that Arabs have the right to vote in Israel. In the first place, I do not think it is terrible to include this information twice (although best avoided if possible). In the second place, if this information is to be included anywhere it should be in this section, which is the most relevant in the article. In the third place, I haven't found any other section in the article that states that Arabs in Israel have the right to vote. The possible exception to this is in the intro, which states that Arab residents of East Jerusalem are allowed to vote in municipal elections. This is a far cry from what Bard articulates. Thoughts? Screen stalker (talk) 03:51, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am not against mention being made of Israeli Arabs having the right to vote, but I am against this quote because:-

1. Is he a reliable source?

2. It does not refute the idea of discrimination against Israeli Arabs, since in Israel and a lot of other countries there can be subtle and not-so subtle discrimination by various means.

3. Actually, women do have the right to vote in some other places in the Middle East, including the PA (and it is the Israelis who have deprived them of this right). However, even if it was true that Israeli Arab women were the only women in the Middle East with the right to vote, this would be not at all inconsistent with there being a high level of discrimination against Israeli Arabs. PatGallacher (talk) 17:52, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"and it is the Israelis who have deprived them of this right" - ya right ..... Zeq (talk) 19:46, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]