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::As I said, I'm not debating this with one person. This is a request for consensus which means others need to weigh in about THIS ARTICLE, not other articles. If you want people to weigh in on all articles, you need to start a discussion at the main project page. And, AGAIN, do not bring past conversations into the conversation, it is not helpful, it is not relevant, and you are still not understanding what this discussion is even about with all your examples. I'm done addressing your comments, ad nauseum, when you can't even decide what you really want. The example you cited above is what was there that you kept removing. By the way, it's inappropriate to bring in other editor's comments and take them out of context as support for your thoughts. I'm sure IrishLass will have something to say about your comments that claim to be her position but in reality are completely taken out of context. [[User:KellyAna|KellyAna]] ([[User talk:KellyAna|talk]]) 13:35, 17 January 2008 (UTC) |
::As I said, I'm not debating this with one person. This is a request for consensus which means others need to weigh in about THIS ARTICLE, not other articles. If you want people to weigh in on all articles, you need to start a discussion at the main project page. And, AGAIN, do not bring past conversations into the conversation, it is not helpful, it is not relevant, and you are still not understanding what this discussion is even about with all your examples. I'm done addressing your comments, ad nauseum, when you can't even decide what you really want. The example you cited above is what was there that you kept removing. By the way, it's inappropriate to bring in other editor's comments and take them out of context as support for your thoughts. I'm sure IrishLass will have something to say about your comments that claim to be her position but in reality are completely taken out of context. [[User:KellyAna|KellyAna]] ([[User talk:KellyAna|talk]]) 13:35, 17 January 2008 (UTC) |
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:::Let me first say that present tense is not MY theory, see the MOS for writing about fiction. Additionally, I didn't even say that how the infoboxes and present tense relate to each other was my theory but rather I brought a link [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Infobox_Television#Starring.2FFormer_stars] to a conversation from the TV project talk pages to show that the issue had been discussed and a decision made in the past. I don't appreciate my words being twisted as DJS24 did. That is unacceptable and not the way to attempt to reach a decision. As to the theory you claim others agree with, that was not about this article, it was about CSI, the main CSI article and the editor doesn't even want any stars in the infobox. Copied from my archives: ''I actually think they should all be removed from the infobox (see FA [[Lost (tv series)]]), but hey, if you want to add her, go for it.--Yamanbaiia(free hugs!) 19:36, 14 January 2008 (UTC)'' So the editor DJS claims backs him actually has stated s/he doesn't want them in at all not that they agree with DJS. As to you list of exampled articles, I will tell you that the ones I check you are incorrect in your statements but just because [[Wikipedia:Other Stuff Exists]] doesn't mean that it's right. This is about Las Vegas, not about improving other articles. And, Kelly is correct, the total is 5 others that agreed with leaving all cast. The three edits referenced at the beginning of this discussion, Kelly, and myself (a female/her/not a him/his). I'm sure, given time, others will address your opinion. In the mean time, you need to patiently wait and see if a decision can be reached by editors that are involved in this article or the project in general. [[User:IrishLass0128|IrishLass]] ([[User talk:IrishLass0128|talk]]) 17:19, 17 January 2008 (UTC) |
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Support for show being canceled
I removed the part about the show being canceled. If someone can site to a reliable source fell free to add it back. --Cooleymd 16:46, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Season finale, or show finale
That season finale sure looked like they killed the show. Anyone have any info on if there will be a season three? →Vik Reykja 23:17, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
- It just aired on Monday. Bayerischermann 19:48, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
- I dont think it aired in the Tampa bay area (Florida) we've been watching for it and havent seen it on the schedule yet. Any ideas?
- The season three premiere starts October 20th. Sam Weber 20:46, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
- I dont think it aired in the Tampa bay area (Florida) we've been watching for it and havent seen it on the schedule yet. Any ideas?
what is the name of the song that is played at the begining of the show vegas
A Little Less Conversation by Elvis -Hoekenheef 01:37, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
Ther is another song, not Let It Ride, that talks about Sin City that is played at the beginning of some shows - what is the name of that song?
Incorrect country link
The list of channels on which the show is aired in different countries link to "Kanal 5" as the Swedish channel. The show is aired on Swedish Kanal 5, but the link aims at a page intended for the croatian channel.
What was the name of the song ....
What was the name of the song that the the outdoor club patrons line-danced to when the cool cop was chaparoning the rich daughter at Belinda's night club? (had a little bunny hop, kind of a latin beat), Viva Las Vegas was the episode name. Anyone?
"Shove it up their asses"?
Maybe I've been watching too little TV lately -- wasn't that quote pushing the limits of network TV tonight? -Jcbarr 04:01, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Theme Song
from what i have heard from the audio comentaries, the only time that the Elvis' some was on the show was druing the pilot, following that it was "Let it Ride" i am wondering if they chaned it for the DVDs (because thats what i have) or if it is just a mistake that needs to be fixed.Osmo250 22:17, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Have you seen the show lately? (on TV)? Djjonnyd 08:15, 11 February 2007 (UTC)djjonnyd (see trivia)
Season 4
I feel kinda bad asking this here, but i couldn't find an applicable place to ask. Does anyone know when season 4 is about to start? I so love this show, and i so can't wait, so i was wondering if anyone know. When did season 3 start and end anyway? Thanks in advance. :) - - 'twsx'talk'cont' 01:29, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
- Not at all is that bad to ask, these pages SHOULD tell you when season four started, Although your request is long old now, people should still know that this kind of info should have been on the pages so it's ok to ask JayKeaton 04:17, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
Update to Characters
As of last season, Mary Connely was promoted to Hotel Manager
SJM 12 January 2007 what is the name of the song played during "the story of owe" when Sam is getting off of the elevator?
Rewrite Background section?
The entire background section reads like it was written by a fifth grader. If someone more knowledgeable about the show would re-write that it would be great. I'll check back in a few days, and if it hasn't been touched up, I'll try to just word what is there a little more clearly, though I'm no expert on the show, so I wouldn't be able to fact-check at all, just correct the writing on what is there. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.173.79.171 (talk) 23:43, 28 February 2007 (UTC).
New Cast Info
According to this, James Caan and Nikki Cox will be out of the cast starting with the fifth season. [1] Should we add that to the article? 206.66.217.143 23:55, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
In the main cast of characters it states that the tom selleck character will be the new owner but in the season information section it states that he will be replacing Caan as Head boss (surely this should be 'President of Operations' as well). which is it, owner or boss? (Bigandyc 21:45, 16 May 2007 (UTC))
Fair use rationale for Image:LasVegas-TitleCard.JPG

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Fair use rationale for Image:Vegas-tv-series-poster.jpg

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Tom Selleck is not the star!!!
On the character list A.J. Cooper keeps being placed ahead of Danny McCoy. Danny is the star of the show!!! Tom Selleck, while good, has yet to become more than a glorified special guest star. He is billed last in the program with an "And" credit. That might merit him place number 2, but Duhamel is clearly listed in the opening credits as the star of the show. Selleck sometimes just shows up for a couple scenes and then is done! Stop moving him to first place!!! Obriensg1 (talk) 20:03, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
- If you go to NBC.com, they do list him as the star. Click on credits, he's the first one to come up. Heather Locklear, well known as the star of Melrose Place, was always listed last. So was Alyssa Milano in Charmed. Often times the biggest star is listed last. Fact is though, NBC on their website lists him first when you click on cast. CelticGreen (talk) 01:09, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
- His picture an information pops up because they have been promoting him joining the cast like crazy. Look at the actual cast list though! It lists Duhamel first, followed by Lesure, Marcil, THEN Selleck, and Sims. I have not missed an episode ever. He is not the lead. He is a featured supporting player brought in for the sake of a familiar face. James Caan was a lead. Duhamel was an equal lead to Caan and now the head of the show. Selleck is still just a major supporting player and should be listed in 2nd place as "And" billings typically mean you are about on par with the first billed (like Shatner and Spader in Boston Legal)Obriensg1 (talk) 04:12, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
- That's what you call alphabetical order. He is, however, shown first, you can't dispute that. He is listed as the star now regardless of your personal feelings. Wikipedia is, however, about facts. Fact is, you click the cast and Tom Selleck comes up first. Ergo, he is the star. CelticGreen (talk) 04:20, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
- His picture an information pops up because they have been promoting him joining the cast like crazy. Look at the actual cast list though! It lists Duhamel first, followed by Lesure, Marcil, THEN Selleck, and Sims. I have not missed an episode ever. He is not the lead. He is a featured supporting player brought in for the sake of a familiar face. James Caan was a lead. Duhamel was an equal lead to Caan and now the head of the show. Selleck is still just a major supporting player and should be listed in 2nd place as "And" billings typically mean you are about on par with the first billed (like Shatner and Spader in Boston Legal)Obriensg1 (talk) 04:12, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
AJ Cooper background?
AJ Cooper information. Didn't the episode Run Cooper Run state that Cooper took place in Khe Sanh? If I am wrong, (I often am,) I apologize. 68.199.243.135 (talk) 23:57, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Regions for DVD Releases
Can anyone tell me what the Regions are for the DVD releases? I live in Australia and I want to know when we will be getting Season 4? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.26.122.8 (talk) 02:57, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Centralized TV Episode Discussion
Over the past months, TV episodes have been redirected by (to name a couple) TTN, Eusebeus and others. No centralized discussion has taken place, so I'm asking everyone who has been involved in this issue to voice their opinions here in this centralized spot, be they pro or anti. Discussion is here [2]. Even if you have not, other opinions are needed because this issue is affecting all TV episodes in Wikipedia. --Maniwar (talk) 17:50, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Discussion regarding infobox
Several editors had insisted that the infobox contain all characters. The list is short and it falls under the MOS for writing about fiction in that fiction be present tense, therefore no prior cast members. See these edits: [3] and here [4] and here [5]. However one editor insists on removing them based on series like ER (14 seasons in the making) and Law and Order (18 seasons). That is an incredible difference when there are multiple rotating cast members unlike Las Vegas that has lost all of three. Please discuss and come to a consensus. At this point, all stay because it's 5 to one based on these edits, IrishLass' changes today, and myself. Thank you. Starting over as an editor has made issues about this that shouldn't have existed. Post your opinion, no personal feelings or attacks. Put your reasons for who you feel should be in the infobox. NO personal attacks. This is supposed to be about the article. This article, not any other on the site as other stuff may exist but it doesn't mean it is right. It should be kept civil and not include personal attacks. KellyAna (talk) 05:40, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
- Now we're basing this on TV Seasons. We don't decide on what information gets put into the infobox based on how many seasons they been on air. The format for the TV infobox is the same for every show, rather they been on for 2 Seasons or 15 Seasons, it doesn't matter. Now gettng back to the dispute over the infobox, the Las Vegas infobox is the only one under this "present tense" format. All other TV show sites only mention current stars in their infobox. Shows such as ER, Law and Order, Brothers and Sisters, Criminal Minds, Ulgy Betty, Grey's Anatomy, CSI Franchise, and do I need to keep naming them. Now it doesn't matter how many seasons they have, none of them include former stars in their infoboxes. Now if the show were to go off air or stop making new episodes, then you would include ALL present and past characters. My solution; let me point out, I'm the only person to give a solution in this matter, everyone else wants to continue to dispute; is to add "Season 5 Cast" to the Las Vegas infobox, with the current cast under it. Now there is no false information there, its just another way of showing the information. The correct way to show it may I add. Now I like to use ER as an example, as it is my favorite show and one of the best shows of all time. Anthony Edwards starred as the main character for 8 Seasons and there is NO mention of him in the infobox. George Clooney, biggest actor rightnow, NOT included in the infobox. Now yes, ER has had dozens of cast members, but we don't determine what information goes in their infobox based on their # of seasons. If you go to my talk page, you will see 2 or 3 people that agree with my theory The theory that has been used and is still being used to this day. Also let me point out, that Irishlass tried to use his theory of "present tense" on the CSI site only to have it erased serveral times by the anons. You can see that information on the site history and it was mentioned on my talk page by Yamanbaiia. That should be enough proof alone to prove my point. In Regards DJS24 --DJS24 (talk) 06:10, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
2008 (UTC)
- Here's another possible solution. If the stars are listed as follows;
- Josh Duhamel
- Vanessa Marcil
- James Lesure
- Molly Sims
- Tom Selleck
- James Caan (2003-2007)
- Nikki Cox (2003-2007)
- Marsha Thomason (2003-2005)
- Please respond. --DJS24 (talk) 06:23, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
- Josh Duhamel
- Here's another possible solution. If the stars are listed as follows;
- As I said, I'm not debating this with one person. This is a request for consensus which means others need to weigh in about THIS ARTICLE, not other articles. If you want people to weigh in on all articles, you need to start a discussion at the main project page. And, AGAIN, do not bring past conversations into the conversation, it is not helpful, it is not relevant, and you are still not understanding what this discussion is even about with all your examples. I'm done addressing your comments, ad nauseum, when you can't even decide what you really want. The example you cited above is what was there that you kept removing. By the way, it's inappropriate to bring in other editor's comments and take them out of context as support for your thoughts. I'm sure IrishLass will have something to say about your comments that claim to be her position but in reality are completely taken out of context. KellyAna (talk) 13:35, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
- Let me first say that present tense is not MY theory, see the MOS for writing about fiction. Additionally, I didn't even say that how the infoboxes and present tense relate to each other was my theory but rather I brought a link [6] to a conversation from the TV project talk pages to show that the issue had been discussed and a decision made in the past. I don't appreciate my words being twisted as DJS24 did. That is unacceptable and not the way to attempt to reach a decision. As to the theory you claim others agree with, that was not about this article, it was about CSI, the main CSI article and the editor doesn't even want any stars in the infobox. Copied from my archives: I actually think they should all be removed from the infobox (see FA Lost (tv series)), but hey, if you want to add her, go for it.--Yamanbaiia(free hugs!) 19:36, 14 January 2008 (UTC) So the editor DJS claims backs him actually has stated s/he doesn't want them in at all not that they agree with DJS. As to you list of exampled articles, I will tell you that the ones I check you are incorrect in your statements but just because Wikipedia:Other Stuff Exists doesn't mean that it's right. This is about Las Vegas, not about improving other articles. And, Kelly is correct, the total is 5 others that agreed with leaving all cast. The three edits referenced at the beginning of this discussion, Kelly, and myself (a female/her/not a him/his). I'm sure, given time, others will address your opinion. In the mean time, you need to patiently wait and see if a decision can be reached by editors that are involved in this article or the project in general. IrishLass (talk) 17:19, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
- As I said, I'm not debating this with one person. This is a request for consensus which means others need to weigh in about THIS ARTICLE, not other articles. If you want people to weigh in on all articles, you need to start a discussion at the main project page. And, AGAIN, do not bring past conversations into the conversation, it is not helpful, it is not relevant, and you are still not understanding what this discussion is even about with all your examples. I'm done addressing your comments, ad nauseum, when you can't even decide what you really want. The example you cited above is what was there that you kept removing. By the way, it's inappropriate to bring in other editor's comments and take them out of context as support for your thoughts. I'm sure IrishLass will have something to say about your comments that claim to be her position but in reality are completely taken out of context. KellyAna (talk) 13:35, 17 January 2008 (UTC)