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Let's have another look at this situation. A relatively untalented teen actor makes allegation. The man confesses, does a prison sentence, and then returns to work, making a wonderful film called Powder... but the teen not-quite-star, who hasn't done much since, decides to dredge it all up again, to ruin both the man and the film that he and a major studio worked and invested in. Why would he do that? Flailing lack of career? Even further revenge? Just how much and how long should Salva be made to pay (beyond what the courts felt was fair) for giving one lousy blowjob? Salva has made some very good films. Rites of Passage is just about the only film I've seen that doesn't cater to gay stereotypes and allows the gay son to demonstrate integrity from beginning to end. Meanwhile, the "poor victim" has contributed next to nothing in comparison, except to try to milk a blow job for all he can get out of it, and then some. I'm not even going to get into the history and why and how of Salva's interest in younger males, except to point out that he, too, may have been a "victim." So let's put the cross back down and leave off the stakes through the heart, accept that the courts (and thereby society) say that Salva has already long since paid his debt to society, and get a little more real, okay? I'm NOT condoning, just putting this "issue" in fair perspective. --[[User:Falc|JT]] 18:32, 6 November 2007 (UTC) |
Let's have another look at this situation. A relatively untalented teen actor makes allegation. The man confesses, does a prison sentence, and then returns to work, making a wonderful film called Powder... but the teen not-quite-star, who hasn't done much since, decides to dredge it all up again, to ruin both the man and the film that he and a major studio worked and invested in. Why would he do that? Flailing lack of career? Even further revenge? Just how much and how long should Salva be made to pay (beyond what the courts felt was fair) for giving one lousy blowjob? Salva has made some very good films. Rites of Passage is just about the only film I've seen that doesn't cater to gay stereotypes and allows the gay son to demonstrate integrity from beginning to end. Meanwhile, the "poor victim" has contributed next to nothing in comparison, except to try to milk a blow job for all he can get out of it, and then some. I'm not even going to get into the history and why and how of Salva's interest in younger males, except to point out that he, too, may have been a "victim." So let's put the cross back down and leave off the stakes through the heart, accept that the courts (and thereby society) say that Salva has already long since paid his debt to society, and get a little more real, okay? I'm NOT condoning, just putting this "issue" in fair perspective. --[[User:Falc|JT]] 18:32, 6 November 2007 (UTC) |
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::...you can't be serious.--[[User:CyberGhostface|CyberGhostface]] 18:38, 6 November 2007 (UTC) |
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I removed information related to expert opinions on recidivism rates of sex offenders. First of all, such information is beyond the scope of this article. Second of all, the information stated was factually incorrect. The Center for Sex Offender Management (US Department of Justice) states in their myth vs fact section: "It is noteworthy that recidivism rates for sex offenders are lower than for the general criminal population." http://www.csom.org/pubs/mythsfacts.html
More detailed information on this can be found in the following document http://www.csom.org/pubs/recidsexof.html. Needless to say, an in-depth analysis of recidivism rates among sex offenders is unnecessary for an article of this nature and the statement that was removed does not in any way diminish the impact of what was said or change the substance of the article at all.
What I don't get is why Salva keeps doing this, but what's with the constant showing of boys with their shirts off in his movies? I mean in almost every one there is a young male walking around with his shirt off. --Jorge Kluney
- I'm not sure what to think of it. Knowing his history makes me uncomfortable with the male nudity he puts in his films. However, I'd rather see him put this stuff into his films than act on it and cause trouble all over again. Also, it's worth noting that many films--horror movies especially--involve teenage girls (or teenage characters) who are very clearly eroticized, with nudity and everything. I don't see how that's any better or worse. The directors of those films seem to be encouraging male viewers to get aroused by underage girls, the same way Salva's films do the same for boys. The only difference is, we know for sure Salva has acted on it at least once, whereas we often don't know the history of directors who have the girls take off their clothes. VertigoXpress 23:04, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Just learned about this guy
I've been a fan of Powder for forever, and Jeepers Creepers was pretty great too. This guy's made some great films, personally I'm wondering how malicious what he's accused of really was. He shouldn't have broken the law, but how bad was it? Tyciol 20:03, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
How bad was it?! He sexually molested a 12-year old boy. A boy that had been one of his employees on a film. He video taped it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.17.94.41 (talk) 17:36, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
"Molested" - the sexual equivalent of "terrorist" and "illegal alien". Let's get a bit more specific: He gave a young teen (I read 14, not 12, but either way,) a blow job. What a TERRIBLE frightening event! (Most of us are praying/dreaming for one about that age.) But "molested" is so much more dramatic and implies tremendous violence. Give it a rest already. Was it prudent? Nope. But it IS human, and relatively harmless.
Let's have another look at this situation. A relatively untalented teen actor makes allegation. The man confesses, does a prison sentence, and then returns to work, making a wonderful film called Powder... but the teen not-quite-star, who hasn't done much since, decides to dredge it all up again, to ruin both the man and the film that he and a major studio worked and invested in. Why would he do that? Flailing lack of career? Even further revenge? Just how much and how long should Salva be made to pay (beyond what the courts felt was fair) for giving one lousy blowjob? Salva has made some very good films. Rites of Passage is just about the only film I've seen that doesn't cater to gay stereotypes and allows the gay son to demonstrate integrity from beginning to end. Meanwhile, the "poor victim" has contributed next to nothing in comparison, except to try to milk a blow job for all he can get out of it, and then some. I'm not even going to get into the history and why and how of Salva's interest in younger males, except to point out that he, too, may have been a "victim." So let's put the cross back down and leave off the stakes through the heart, accept that the courts (and thereby society) say that Salva has already long since paid his debt to society, and get a little more real, okay? I'm NOT condoning, just putting this "issue" in fair perspective. --JT 18:32, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- ...you can't be serious.--CyberGhostface 18:38, 6 November 2007 (UTC)