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Orpheus, I refer to this link that was just archived by CMMK [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AAmerican_Family_Association%2FArchive_3&diff=159451324&oldid=159368914]. You two have not been explaining over and over, you have been repeatedly dismissing sourced views. The "not a press release, detailed directory" objection simply doesn't hold. There is no policy on those points, and concisely presented sourced views do not apply. Summary style is WP style. I have explained that the important parts of what you keep deleting are simply deleted from the article. So the views are being suppressed. Two editors repeatedly deleting and dismissing reliable sources and discussion does not mean consensus. I am totally willing to apply for outside input on this matter and therefore I am totally willing to listen to Wikipedia community input. You can keep trying to dismiss my comments if you like, but its not going to stop me from applying Wikipedia policies to the article. I am not insinuating anything, I am clearly presenting you with the NPOV tutorial section on Information Suppression [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOV_tutorial#Information_suppression] [[User:Hal Cross|Hal Cross]] 02:01, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[[User:Hal Cross|Hal Cross]] 02:18, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
Orpheus, I refer to this link that was just archived by CMMK [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AAmerican_Family_Association%2FArchive_3&diff=159451324&oldid=159368914]. You two have not been explaining over and over, you have been repeatedly dismissing sourced views. The "not a press release, detailed directory" objection simply doesn't hold. There is no policy on those points, and concisely presented sourced views do not apply. Summary style is WP style. I have explained that the important parts of what you keep deleting are simply deleted from the article. So the views are being suppressed. Two editors repeatedly deleting and dismissing reliable sources and discussion does not mean consensus. I am totally willing to apply for outside input on this matter and therefore I am totally willing to listen to Wikipedia community input. You can keep trying to dismiss my comments if you like, but its not going to stop me from applying Wikipedia policies to the article. I am not insinuating anything, I am clearly presenting you with the NPOV tutorial section on Information Suppression [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOV_tutorial#Information_suppression] [[User:Hal Cross|Hal Cross]] 02:01, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[[User:Hal Cross|Hal Cross]] 02:18, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

: ''I am totally willing to apply for outside input on this matter and therefore I am totally willing to listen to Wikipedia community input.''
:: Good - please do so.

: ''I am not insinuating anything, I am clearly presenting you''
:: That would be an accusation then. There's plenty of insinuation in the other comments, and I for one am sick of both. There is no information suppression because the information you are trying to add is either already in the article or easily accessible from the issues link provided (linked as "The AFA raises and pursues these and other[12] issues").
: [[User:Orpheus|Orpheus]] 07:28, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

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Removal of AFA views from the article

Orpheus, I refer to this link that was just archived by CMMK [1]. You two have not been explaining over and over, you have been repeatedly dismissing sourced views. The "not a press release, detailed directory" objection simply doesn't hold. There is no policy on those points, and concisely presented sourced views do not apply. Summary style is WP style. I have explained that the important parts of what you keep deleting are simply deleted from the article. So the views are being suppressed. Two editors repeatedly deleting and dismissing reliable sources and discussion does not mean consensus. I am totally willing to apply for outside input on this matter and therefore I am totally willing to listen to Wikipedia community input. You can keep trying to dismiss my comments if you like, but its not going to stop me from applying Wikipedia policies to the article. I am not insinuating anything, I am clearly presenting you with the NPOV tutorial section on Information Suppression [2] Hal Cross 02:01, 22 September 2007 (UTC)Hal Cross 02:18, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am totally willing to apply for outside input on this matter and therefore I am totally willing to listen to Wikipedia community input.
Good - please do so.
I am not insinuating anything, I am clearly presenting you
That would be an accusation then. There's plenty of insinuation in the other comments, and I for one am sick of both. There is no information suppression because the information you are trying to add is either already in the article or easily accessible from the issues link provided (linked as "The AFA raises and pursues these and other[12] issues").
Orpheus 07:28, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]