"Policeman"

Saying his father was a "Gendarmerie-Kommandant" it's not really correctly translated to call him a "policeman", but rather the boss of a police-station. I know, that's quite a minor point, but nevertheless my first contribution.

True Lies was a spoof of the roles he had played before. I seem to remember that the critics actually liked it when it came out? --sodium

I recall a review describing it as misogynist rubbish

Are you thinking of Last Action Hero - as the spoof on roles played before.

The article had a number of epithets which really cannot be squared with the NeutralPointOfView. It is wholly within our purview, however, to have a section about reviewers' evaluation of his acting ability; it is also perfectly fair play to mention how various films were reviewed.

I didn't know what to do with the following: "A number of unsavoury rumours appear to have have kiboshed his nascent political ambitions which once seemed to reach as high as you could go." What nascent political ambitions? What rumors? --LMS

What nascent political ambitions? He was considering a run for Governor of California.

What rumors? That he was a womanizer and had emotionally abused his wife

Here's the story: http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3a9c08d556f1.htm

The rumors were scurrilous and politically motivated and have no place in an encyclopedia except possibly under the heading propaganda. --MemoryHole.com

The bypass surgery comment may be fair but age? render unto us a break - the man is only 54! - clasqm

The point is that Schwarzenegger isn't the same physically/athletically as he was in the early days--age is definitely a factor. -- TheCunctator

Although many people have accused True Lies of being somewhat misogynistic, there are many people, myself included, who think it's one of his best films. The film is clearly intended NOT to be taken seriously. --John Knouse

For fans of big stupid fun movies, check out Hercules in New York. It comes on TBS periodically, and is emphatically bad.  :-) --KQ

Zoe, are you sure all these celebrity images you are uploading are not copyrighted?

Yes. They're fair use from book jacket covers, as I've said on the upload and the Image page. -- Zoe

I think Zoe means "No. They're fair use from book jacket covers." If they were "not copyrighted" (i.e. public domain), then "fair use" wouldn't need to be invoked at all. I have indicated the distinction on Mr. Schwarzenegger's image description page. I think it would be best if people were careful to use the terms "public domain" or "copyrighted but considered fair use" on image description pages, in order to make it clear which they mean. -- Oliver P. 16:08 May 14, 2003 (UTC)

I don't understand how clearer I can be, I said they were fair use. I also said they were from book covers, so I figured that was sufficient for what I needed to say on the image page. -- Zoe

Well, I was just pedantically correcting your "Yes" to a "No", because it's not true to say that an image being used in "fair use" is "not copyrighted". And the image description page didn't contain the words "fair use". It does now, because I added the words. So everything's okay now. :) -- Oliver P. 09:17 May 15, 2003 (UTC)

Schwarzenegger has decided to run in the recall election. The article has been updated to reflect that. See http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3128015.stm.

-- hoshie

The article still needs some updating, since there are places that say "He is considering running" and "He may have political aspirations". -- wwheeler

Be bold! --Menchi 01:49, Aug 7, 2003 (UTC)

Has True Lies 2 already been filmed? or will he have to film in it while he is govenor? dave 17:51, 8 Aug 2003 (UTC)

I know this is asking much, but does someone have Robert Altmans The Long Goodbye on convenient media. There is a bodyguard in the film (an unspeaking part) whom Elliot Gould as Philip Marlowe forces to undress (at gunpoint) with his mate. If I am not misremembering, he looked uncannily like the young Arnie. As always, there is a good chance I am talking through an undiscovered ventilation hole under my headware. -- Cimon Avaro on a pogostick

• According to IMDb he was "One of Augustine's hoods " in The Long Goodbye(1973) although it was uncredited. M123 16:57, 11 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Those of you working on this article might want to incorporate aspects of the following news item: [[1]]. 205.155.15.1 17:26, 6 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Recently the Sydney Morning Herald unearthed a quote from Mr Swarzenegger from 1975, in which he stated he admires Hitler, on the grounds that he was a little man who rose from nothing to be somebody. Political naivete of course, but in the light of the recent election, maybe worth mentioning in the article if the original source and quote can be found. GRAHAMUK 12:12, 8 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Last I heard, the original quote couldn't be found, so it was relegated to a rumor to discredit Schwarzenegger. I guess it could be lumped into a section citing all the things that arose to discredit him at the last minute (such as the groping, the gang-bangs, etc.). —Frecklefoot 17:13, 8 Oct 2003 (UTC)

In the section where Schwarzenegger (hmm, I guess I should now say Governor Schwarzenegger 8^) explains why he joined the Republican Party, Adam Carr parenthetically added:

(In fact, at the time Schwarzenegger came to the United States, Austria was governed by conservatives, and had been since 1945. Austria did not have a socialist Chancellor until 1970.)

Now I know very little about Austrian modern history, so I await the opinions of others, but this is very much at odds with the Politics of Austria article. In that article, it states the Austrian government was a coalition between conservatives, socialists and communists from 1945 till 1947, and a coalition between the conservatives and socialists from 1947 until 1966, when the socialists held power in their own right, then variously socialists alone or conservative/socialist coalitions until 1983. (Schwarzenegger left Austria in 1968.) Furthermore, until 1955 a substantial part of the country - including Schwarzennegger's home - was occupied by the Soviets. Now Adam did refer to the Chancellor of Austria as well as the government, and that part seems to be true - but rather misleading as it seems that under the socialist/conservative coalition, they always had a conservative Chancellor but a socialist President. To cut a long story short, it seems that this remark is quite wrong. But I know very little about Austrian politics, so I'll leave it for comment for a while. -- Roger 10:11 9 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Roger is correct that the Austrian Socialist Party was a junior partner in Austrian governments from 1947 to 1966. However:

• In 1966 the conservative People's Party won a majority in their own right, before being defeated by the Socialists in 1970. So Austria did not have a socialist government, in any sense, in 1968 when Schwarzenegger left for the US.

What I was objecting to was "governed by conservatives ... since 1945".

• The presence of SPO ministers in the government did not make Austria a "socialist country." The 1947-66 governments pursued policies which in European terms would be considered centrist - I suppose to an American Republican they might seem "socialist."

OK, but a socialist/conservative (and sometimes communist) coalition over part of the country, and Soviet interference in the rest, is hardly "governed by conservatives ... since 1945", either. And the Austrian doctrine of Proporz means that the SPO always controlled at least a few ministerial positions, in particular the Minister for Labour and Social Affairs. (On a peripheral issue, the Schwarzenegger quote doesn't actually say "socialist country".)

• The Presidency of Austria is a ceremonial post so the party background of its occupant is not really relevant.

The admittedly terse reference I read on the matter suggests that although he customarily does not use them, the Austrian President actually has immense powers, including the powers to dissolve the Nationalrat, sack the Chancellor, indefinitely delay Acts, pardon criminals, and, in a state of emergency, to rule by decree for up to four weeks. In practice it seems that the only such power that has actually been used is dissolving the Nationalrat, which has been done twice, both times with the Chancellor's approval. In contrast, although the Chancellor's role is very similar to that of a Prime Minister, he actually has very few constitutional powers. For example, he cannot even sack one of his own cabinet ministers! As a practical matter, the SPO/OVP split of President and Chancellor probably guaranteed the continuation of the custom of Proporz, which meant the socialist party controlled industrial relations.

• If Schwarzenegger's home was in the Graz area then he was in the British Zone of Occupation, not the Soviet Zone. In any case the occupation ended when he was seven.

OK, my map was rather small scale, so mea culpa. My point was that having a large chunk of your country occupied by the Soviets is not really compatible with "governed by conservatives".

Anyway, feel free to remove the paragraph if you feel it is misleading - it is a very minor point. Adam 11:46, 9 Oct 2003 (UTC)

OK, I've probably already given it far more time than it deserves, but, grrrr, it's taking me so long to save this edit the main page will have to wait. -- Roger 13:46 09 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Do we really need Arnold's nickname, "Arnie", in the first sentence of this page? George W. Bush's page doesn't say "George 'Dubya' W. Bush" the first time he is referred to. -- Mattworld 21:03, 9 Oct 2003 (UTC)

No. ThereIsNoSteve 21:06, 9 Oct 2003 (UTC)