"Xara X is also notable for its intuitive interface and very fast renderer." How is that a Neutral point of view? Claiming the interface is intuitive is entirely subjective and should be backed up. Description was improved to say it was easier for users familiar with Corel Draw to learn, thanks much better. —Horkana 14:36, 9 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

How is this image famous?? If I show the picture to 100 people on the street, I doubt I would get more than 2 who would have any idea what it represents, let alone call it "famous." 71.194.6.238 01:16, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is, you don't know this picture as original Xara Xtreme vector graphic. There is something under the Microscope lens, which is only visible, if you zoom into the picture (up to 25.000% - the largest zoom factor of current vector graphics editors). --Remi de 13:14, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Xara X is no longer the official name of this excellent piece of software. —Remi de 12:40, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Moved. —Nightstallion (?) 11:31, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The article Xara Xtreme LX is marked as a stub and it's better to merge the facts into the main article Xara Xtreme. What's your opinion? --Remi de 12:08, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've always been confused by this: What exactly is the difference? --Snarius 13:16, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Xara Xtreme LX is the open source version for Linux of Xara Xtreme. But therefore it isn't necessary to create a own article about Xara Xtreme LX. For the moment there are 3 different versions of Xara Xtreme available: Xara Xtreme (Windows, commercial version with commercial plugins), Xara Xtreme LX (Linux and in the near future also Mac OS X, open source) and Xara Xtreme XS (Windows, a light version of Xara Xtreme). --Remi de 10:37, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

After a quick look, I agree.--Chealer 00:06, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The article currently contains a lot of unsourced glowing statements about Xara. These need to be sourced, and may need to be re-worked as well. For example:

Xara Xtreme is notable for its usability and very fast renderer. Xara Xtreme is also notable for being the first vector graphics software product to provide fully anti-aliased display, advanced gradient fill and transparency tools, now available in many competing products.

Among vector editors, Xara Xtreme is considered to be one of the easiest to learn, especially for those who have had some experience with CorelDRAW. In recent versions, attempts have been made to render the application appealing to web designers by adding tools for popular effects such as drop shadows, bevels, and navigation buttons. Xara Xtreme also includes tools for manipulating bitmaps.

Xara Xtreme, while not as well known as some vector drawing applications, has a rapidly growing and very loyal user base, with active forums and many user-created tutorials. Xara Xtreme is also used in Scottish high schools as part of their Graphic Design course

Most of the quoted paragraphs contain unsourced glowing claims of the product 203.109.240.93 13:53, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't make this article and I use Inkscape (not Xara), and though it does seem to state relative things "easiest to learn", "fast renderer", have you tried to use the program? Maybe the proof is in the pudding, and it is very easy to learn and very fast. For example, if you could make a comparison that compares this speed to that of other programs, and this is indeed faster (even if the study isn't cited), such statements show how this program is different than others. So, yes. Find sources. And rewording to remove "easiest" (make easy?) and "very fast" to fast.Althepal 04:33, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is, this product is really notable for its usability and very fast renderer. As you know, the developers from Inkscape have oriented their User Interface after Xara Xtreme's User Interface, but why? Xara Xtreme offers a directly way to draw - not like some other tools as Adobe Illustrator with dialog boxes here and there. The difference between these two User Interface concepts are so large, that this is a outstanding feature/property of this software. The other point with Xara Xtreme very fast renderer is, that Xara Xtreme is one of the rare graphics editors, who owns a renderer developed in Assembler. The speed of this renderer makes the software the fastest vector graphics editor available. Try it by yourself. And the point with this is, that you'll find some graphics editors out there with modern features but nowadays, none of these companys makes himself the trouble to optimize their speed in this occurrence - most of them don't even know how to program assembler. And therefore the developing of a really fast graphics renderer is one of the most outstanding features of Xara Xtreme and should be mentioned here. But you're right, it's not possible to say Xara Xtreme is the "fastest" application out there if we talk about NPOV here in Wikipedia. But I think, "very fast" is no superlative for saying this. Remember, I'm not talking about marketing babble - I'm talking about real attributes of this product and I know also other well known graphics editors. --Remi de 19:24, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, guys. I tried BOTH Inkscape AND Xara Xtreme. Both programs are about as easy to learn to use as each other. Both programs are about as fast as each other. The video on Xara Xtreme's website (with a strong bias) states that it is the fastest and easiest to learn program in its class. The fact is, that is not true, and the video can not be used as a source for the article. Furthermore, they were comparing it to Adobe's program - not similar programs such as Sodipodi and Inkscape - to Xara, and the comparison they gave is of no use. Soooo.... Even now, the article's POV is not balanced. I suggest a thorough rewrite. Althepal 02:42, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I edited the article to a great extend, and I think the POV is pretty balanced now. Still, the program is not as good as some others, so I encourage people to put in facts and characteristics about the program which are negative, not just positive. There are also some fact tags that need citation. Althepal 05:46, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with your edits and therefore reverted some of them. You're wrong, if you think, Xara Xtreme isn't as good as some others (or do you talk about the still not finished OpenSource version?). Xara Xtreme has much more features than Inkscape and if you try to create drawings with the commercial version of Xara Xtreme under Windows (free trial versions are available), you'll feel the speed difference between Xara Xtreme and other vector graphics editors. If you not willing to believe me, ask other professionell Graphic Designer's about this here. I've included a source with a speed test between Adobe Illustrator and Xara Xtreme in the article, because some Wikipedians needs facts and sources and all this stuff. --Remi de 20:03, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I used the trial for Xara Xtreme. It really isn't better than Inkscape and has only a couple features not found in inkscape. Have you tried Inkscape's v. 0.45? Althepal 20:16, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit stating Inkscape's performance can be compared to Xara is far off the mark and false. It can be easily tested by anyone. (Actually, anyone who has done some complicated design with vector programs can recgonize Xara's outstanding performance instantly). All you need to do is find a vector image and import it to both Xara and Inkscape and duplicate it repeatedly, and you'll see how fast that brings down Inkscape to its knees. Inkscape has it strength, but that's not in the performance realm. You should remove the false statement regarding Xara's speed is "similar to Inkscape" from the content. You also need to remember that Inkscape has borrowed on Xara's UI design heavily when it comes to the comparison of ease of use.Wallness 04:15, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I just checked your edits. Now I don't want to get involved in edit wars, but, IMO, you are really just making the article less clear and making the POV un-neutral again. And the tag I had put on applies to the article and should be put back. I'll just leave with my opinion and let you do what you think is right. Althepal 20:19, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It would be possible to compile XaraXtreme for Linux in Windows? Cedric S. Graebin 16:57, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, the Windows versions use another code base. But I think, it should not really a big problem to pay 79 bucks for the comercial Windows version... --Remi de 19:00, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And it should be less of a problem to download something just like Xara for free: Inkscape, Sodipodi, Synfig. Althepal 06:57, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Althepal is right. But if you like to use Xara Xtreme under Windows, there is only the commercial version available. It depends on your needs and I would recommend to do a test with all these vector editors (there is also a free trial version of Xara Xtreme available under Windows). I know (and use) Adobe Illustrator, Inkscape and other (bitmap) graphic editors, but personally I prefer Xara Xtreme. --Remi de 20:21, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hold on a second, Remi de. What do you mean by "other (bitmap) graphic editors"? Xara's image editor is very nice, but it is nothing compared to Photoshop, GIMP, Helicon Filter, and the like, and it isn't the main part of Xara Xtreme. So what do you mean? Althepal 06:20, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As I say: I know (and use) three vector graphic editors and also some other bitmap graphic editors, but I prefer Xara Xtreme. What's your problem with my statement? --Remi de 13:39, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I was just confused. I thought you were saying that Xara Xtreme was a bitmap editor, which it isn't. Althepal 17:23, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]